So - we haven't done one of these in a really long time for a few reasons, but mostly because I don't think they're fun. Requiring people (who are now mostly in their 30s and older!) to sit in the shops and grab as many items as possible just doesn't work for the game, or the economy.

So I'm wondering if anyone has ideas for how we can re-release those old prizes from restock wars, and have the same ✨ vibe ✨ of the restock war, without buying from shops being the primary component.

No bad ideas! Throw em at me. I want to re-use as much old art as possible, but we could get some new prizes as well, probably!

Instead of adding items to the economy, remove them? A Composting Cleanup or a Recycling Rally!

I reckon it would be good if all items were accepted (including Game Prizes), and perhaps points could be given based on the rarity of the item composted. So people could restock from main shops, battle, buy from user shops, etc. and everything would be accepted, rather than the current restricted item list used for composting / recycling.

Hmm, hmm.. Composting/Cleanup/Recycling would be a different take on it! Maybe a Frag-a-thon? XD I know that whenever I finish my daily quests, I usually end up fragging the majority of my items earned. I don't have a gold account so I can't autoprice items in my shop and the only items I bother hand pricing/restocking are Mage Amulets.

I never participated in Restock wars since I found them boring even at 14, so I definitely wouldn't be doing them at now 30+. Some stuff are better left on the old internet.

Might not be in the same spirit, but maybe having a point system where doing stuff on Kumos gives you daily points: post on the forum once a day, do 5 of the new quests, restock 5 items on the new shop, frag/recycle 10 items, read a book to your pet, battle once etc. You can restock/frag/recycle more for more points. Basically, I think part of the spirit of a restock war was to encourage people to be active on site. This could be a way to rediscover and get acquainted with the 'new' Subeta on Kumos. Unsure if this idea fits with a new 'Restock war' tho, but I wanted to put it out there.

I like the idea of a frag-a-thon and it's closer in gameplay to a Restock war, but it's something I don't find much more interesting tbh. Repetitive tasks isn't something I enjoy doing much in my free time now that I'm in my 30s. I just don't have a ton of time for gaming/being online, and doing the same clicking tasks over and over isn't really engaging.

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FRAG-A-THON

That sounds fun.

As much fun as some of these ideas sound, there are people who have hoarded thousands and thousands of items and will be at the top of the leaderboard from the beginning to the end of the event. At least with the proper restock wars, no items you previously acquired went to the official count. You had to restock items from the main shops and the ones you restocked during the event were the only items that counted.

I'm a hoarder, and even I don't like the sound of composting/frag-a-thon with existing items. The winners are already determined before it even starts.

Well, you could say the same thing about Gelatin Wars - that Battlers have an advantage - and the old Restocking Wars favored those with fast connections and knowledge of what items were rare vs. common. The Manwar vs. other dude thing leaned towards those those who were good at arcade-like games. There's never not going to be a group that's not favored.

I think that Subeta does a very good job of balancing - it's easy for all sides to earn points/prizes regardless.

Ideas - I really liked the Food Donation Bowl. Food for Fantine also took a lot of useless items out. Maybe a giving week, we can have a toy drive, a book drive, a clothing drive, etc. all at once? Keep track of all of the items donated, and prizes for everyone if we reach goals?

There's a difference between having an advantage and having pre-determined winners. I'd like to avoid the latter. If there's a way to give everyone a fighting chance at the top prize, then I would support that idea. Like the Gelatin War of 2022, even a weak pet could win the top prize. They'd have to battle more than a person with a strong pet, but they would get the top prize as long as they hit a damage threshold. So yes, there's an advantage to having a strong pet, but it's not an automatic loss if you don't. You just have to work harder.

The Gelatin War of 2024 had pre-determined winners, as you basically needed a T13 pet to win the top prize. That was not well-received. Another event will face the same criticism and blowback if winners are pre-determined by xyz. There are people who have been accumulating tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of items for years. If the item pool can be limited to just items acquired during the event (through main shops, battles, quests..etc.), then that sounds good to me.

i loveee the idea of a frag war!! would very much motivate me to do daily quests, vend, play games, and just generally do anything to get items to frag. sounds so fun- would also be a fun way to do like a crystal shop chaotic restock for some of the older items we're still hoping for, the way amber does with the token shop sometimes.

My two cents: I definitely do not like the idea of a restock war. I feel stressed just thinking about it, and likely wouldn't participate.

But I LOVE the idea of some sort of event like a frag-a-thon that would remove loads of cheap items from the site! I don't even care if hoarders are at an advantage and I wouldn't stand a chance of winning. I just think it would be great for the economy to have incentive to reduce the hoarding and clear out a lot of the cheaper stuff - especially if we could frag/turn in/whatever challenger loot, free gifts, and anything else that can't be normally be fragged (except for currency and CWs ofc).

I mean, I do my part tossing unfraggable stuff into the Rift to get back something I can frag, but that's one Bucket Hat per day out of the bazillion on site.

Genuine question : what was the ✨ vibe ✨ of the Restock Wars for you?

Yeah, I'm not too hot on a fragging war for the exact reason brokensafety said - people have had decades to hoard fraggable items in their vault for this moment. It would be convenient for the site, but for people who do not have ten of thousands of free beer still stashed in their vault, it's not as gratifying.

I'd rather have something where most people are on even ground on Day 0 of the event.

What past suggested about giving points for doing activities on Kumos is much more my vibe. Everyone starts evenly, and it does encourage to use Kumos and its features (quests, auctions). more. It also would give people an opportunity to go and start to accept that Kumos is the way to go.

i don't hoard anything, so I'm not at any advantage. does me battling with lots of pets though, which then that random loot can be fragged count as having an advantage? Doesn't a new player with only 100k to their name technically have a disadvantage against those of us who have hundreds of millions of sPs to buy items?

Let's be honest, all us oldies immediately have any advantage as opposed to RS wars and whatnot back then when a lot of us were still on equal footing or could catch up easily.

If they are the "right" items, that may work. But some people have obscure collections/hoards. My response was mostly to the suggestion above that all existing items should be accepted. In that case, there would be pre-determined winners and I'm just not okay with that.

I like and 's suggestion about completing activities on the site. A Major Drills style event would be cool.

I just wanna say I love restocking, and I'm gonna participate for sure, in any form this is gonna happen (I'm 31 lol) I love the idea of composting or fragging or even just restocking. I do think, however, that the restocking on kumos shops needs to be more balanced that it is now

I like the activities-style idea (Major Drills inspired) but I'd also be okay with a frag-a-thon. I've been here 14 years and won't be especially advantaged in any event, but I also don't care that others will be. Prizes can be individualized rather than one person gets first place, if that matters to the community.

I think regardless of what the focus is, there should be a community goal, like we had in quest a thons. Perhaps combining that with individual limits of some sort would encourage the cooperative approach we all love here.

what about another quest-a-thon? with staggered reward

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