I just reduced the amount of CSC earned from 20 → 7 per day. Sorry everyone, it was just creating way much CSC floating out there. As I mentioned in the launch topic - I knew I would need to change the amount, I just didn't know to what.

Thank you for helping test, and keep collecting that daily CSC!

makes sense! 20 felt generous (600 credits a month is a LOT). inb4 people are not happy that its an awkward number LOL i'd be happy w 5 tbh to keep it even

7 a day is way less well there goes my cash shop items I wanted to buy :(

I guess I'm glad that I wasn't really doing the kumos quests for the csc then XD

But yeah, I think some people will have an issue with it being 7 instead of 5 or 10, just because of it resulting in less neat amounts of csc.

"Unable to start quest: Could not find enough available items that meet the quest requirements. This usually means there are not enough items available in shops or the required items are too rare. Please try again later when more items become available."

Got this trying to quest from Mabel. Maybe instead of adding a failsafe like this, just add items to her quest pool instead...

I'm surprised I don't see a post about how the quest rewards in general are lower now too. I could not even do a single kumos saggi earlier with a profit. I won't be doing quests at all on here for that amount especially with zero profit on the quests. I will keep doing my quests on the original subeta, where I actually make a profit and the saggi items are actually less expensive to begin with.

Someone saying "600 credits a month is a LOT", I don't really think so that's like one CW a month but I can understand the lessening to some degree 7 though, seems like a silly number though. I feel like 10 would have made a bit more sense and rounded out better. CSC is just as high in price if not HIGHER than it's ever been so I am surprised there is more of it when the price is only getting higher.

Not worth the trouble and the sP spent

yeah i agree 7 seems a bit low. i see how 20 might be too high- i thought it was a good amount seeing as with morty cards you got 25. i think 10 would be a good middle ground. I also agree with the person saying 600 a month is only like- one CW item a month which isnt bad.

Just a reminder that I kept track of every Morty Card I earned over a three year period of doing all my quests every day (with a gold account.) On average, I earned just under 1 Morty Card per day (.87). That is about 21.75 CSC per day. Having said that, I had to do a total of 140 quests per day for that average and Kumos only requires 21 quests.

Totally understand, though mind, it was nice while it lasted. A small suggestion: How about getting rid of the gold account CSC thing and just making it 5 for everyone? I know you like to reward gold account holders (and I appreciate it!) but we already get CSC every month. Kinda feels a little double dipping. Or maybe instead of a daily csc perk, make it a weekly goal 25 csc for every so many quests? Still a nice treat, but less likely to take such a bite from the cash infusion?

The SP rewards are also lower and it doesn't make sense to quest on Kumos anymore. Items are too expensive on there and 7 csc is just... a poor payout.

I was given 11,000 for one wizard quest on Kumos. No thanks. I'll just keep questing on Legacy

Even though the payout is small for the Wizard quests, I keep doing them because the reward is a 50 point wizard token and those come in handy for the Token Shop!

I also love tokens, but Kumos just isn't there. I'm disappointed in the lowered sp payout, the reduced csc and 4 quest items are too much. I don't mind 1-3 items per quest, and everything is too expensive (and shops like Spells Galore never seems to RS on that site). Maleria wanted a 200k item on Kumos site.

I totally understand and feel the same way about the 4 item quests, I really dislike those. I hear you on Maleria, I had two quest that wanted 250k items the other day. That's just crazy!

Absolutely respect the csc decrease! It was a fun little treat while it lasted. It's difficult because the current amount of 7 feels fair for the (reduced) amount of effort that comes with Kumos questing, but a rate of 7 a day/49 a week doesn't feel too great if that's the currency that motivates you to quest. If Kumos quests had larger item pools/could be completed more reliably I'd almost suggest increasing the number of quests for the csc reward and maybe upping the amount to 10 csc a day? Edit: I just remembered non-gold users have even less quests nvm :^(

I liked the 20 CSC a day. As someone else mentioned that's 600 CSC a month, meaning if you put enough effort in quests ALL month, you could at least afford 1 CW items, which seems fair imo. 7 CSC/day seems way too low.

I greatly prefer the ui for quests on legacy vs kumos, so this reduction makes it so that I probably won't bother with most quests on kumos until these other issues are fixed:(i was already have trouble getting myself to do quests for 20 and wouldn't even do them everyday lol).

Also because the uneven 7 might bug me lol. I think 10 could be a good compromise?

1. Legacy will show me if I have an item in my shop (if on the page of shops) - this is extremely helpful. And also enables me to pull that item out really quickly. The few times Kumos will tell me about an item in my vault, I can't find a way to pull it, or do so fast and smoothly, so I'll search it up on legacy to get it out of my vault....
2. Legacy shops also stock more than kumos shops - if legacy shops are closed, the way the kumos shops are run, many items will inflate. (Some inflate already).
3. I think legacy quests pull from a greater pool of items. At least, I find that duality consistently give good value of sP rewards for the cost of the items. Quentin and Library may not, but they have a chance for either amulets or super rare items so it can be worth it. Even legacy Saggi will give good value and his pool is diversified even if the items are more expensive. The other day I tried to do kumos Saggi, he asked for three pieces of jewelry and his rewards still aren't fixed so I broke even. On Kumos, it got better with the recent update but lately, it hasn't seemed super worth it to do.
4. Kumos quest rewards are the exact same small pool of items that have greatly devalued since everyone gets the same items over and over. At least legacy is more diverse and can get other rarer items sometimes. I also enjoy the random Morty, 25 CSC is a good chunk that even though it's random it feels more rewarding. :')
5. My biggest gripe is how much slower the pages load on kumos, when compared to legacy. One quest on kumos can take 10-15x slower than the time to do one quest on legacy. (Even after I figured out you can stop a page load and move on to the next item, it's still slower). That's... one of my biggest issues. Add in the inconsistent and repetitive item rewards, and it's basically more work for less reward.
6. I prefer the item hovers on legacy over kumos. I can shop search and account search more easily and the results page is easier to digest.
7. Kumos is too wide. I enjoy how much more compact legacy is. For example, on the shop search, legacy is a perfect size and width but kumos is both too spaced out between shops and too wide. I enjoy that things on legacy don't spread across the whole page. I use the Arctic layout and the padding on pages is great and the color separation between boxes/tables is great. The UI unique to subeta really worked for me and why I chose it over other pet sites.

Saggi really needs his base rewards fixed and added in again I've seen many posts requesting this. . :')

I read through Keith's posts. I really appreciate your work on this site to keep it running for everyone. This is just feedback to be helpful! I know we can't aim for perfection and I don't understand what php means, but it sounds like an inevitable migration to kumos?

I would like to second what said about the quests taking longer on kumos. I have very fast internet but the load times for kumos are so slow when compared to the legacy site. It takes me more time to do all kumos quests than it does to do all the legacy quests. I also have two windows going on one monitor And the page cuts off so I have to scroll when there's a 4th item being requested on kumos. I still am making money back from the quests, but the amount of time they take to load drive me up a wall. I've been tempted to just skip them altogether because they're such a slog to get through even though I'm at least making some sp profit from them.

I love that we can pull items from the our vaults, especially when there are items that I got from battle quests. But again, the lag is painful. I don't know what is possible to do about it though. Do you have any insight on why the lag is so bad on kumos where legacy loads quickly and easily ?

Oh what a bummer. I do agree 20 csc was a bit high, but I figured that was less than 1 Morty card a day so thought it made sense. Having been able to quest only on the weekends it gave me a lot of incentive to get it done. 7 csc doesn’t really entice me enough ☹️ Although I am still grateful that there is a way in game to make csc at all so thank you for that!

[e] another perspective to keep in mind: I like being able to use csc to train my pets, but with one auto train session costing 25 csc, this would take me 4 days of quests to acquire enough for one

I think 7 CSC is okay as an incentive on top of making sP (and the other bonuses once the reputation system is put in place). If you do your 21 quests daily, you get 49 guaranteed CSC each week and 210 every 30 days. Add the Bathhouse CSC and that’s 360 guaranteed CSC every month, roughly.

The average user doesn’t do enough quests for 1 Morty a week (I certainly didn’t!) or even per day. It’s incredibly random and tedious. Earning 210 CSC per month is way more than the current system on legacy for the larger playerbase.

Also, I don’t think buying CWs is a good baseline. There are plenty of CWs in the 300 range too. 600 is on the high end.