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Mar 20, 2021 4 years ago
Delirium
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& more items: here's a quick subetalodge search for all items containing the term "oriental". Using the term to describe items based on clothing, hairstyles, accessories, etc of varied Asian heritage is uhhhh pejorative & highly antiquated.

I honestly forgot these items existed and I even own some of them. I only noticed when going through the older wardrobe items. I will add that I am white and my opinion doesn't actually matter. This is just a suggestion based on what I've read on the subject and in response to the increased aggression toward Asian-Americans over the past year. I'm not trying to speak for anyone else.


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Mar 20, 2021 4 years ago
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I think these have already been mentioned in this thread. They haven't been changed yet, though, so it probably wouldn't hurt to bring them up again.

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Mar 21, 2021 4 years ago
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I think it's important to give these particular items a priority, even though they have been mentioned elsewhere.

Mar 22, 2021 4 years ago
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ID-F86

All my support, every time I see the damn word I just kind of. Experience face-scrunching-up-ing. No real ideas for what word could replace it, but honestly you could remove it outright and the items would stand as they are just fine.

Mar 22, 2021 4 years ago
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Support. As an asian american, that word has been used in a derogatory way toward me and my family. There's a better way to describe those items, surely. I'm also hating the item description for being in psuedo broken english with verbs conjugated incorrectly.


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Mar 22, 2021 4 years ago
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Seconding removing the word. It still makes sense without it.

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Mar 22, 2021 4 years ago
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Mar 22, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Just so you guys are aware, staff is not ignoring this issue! It is being discussed :)

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Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago Official
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As a Chinese American myself, I deeply understand the toll of what our community has gone through, not just last month but throughout US history. These items were meant to be changed immediately, and the process for doing so was started, but the content team had a lot on their plate and apologizes for the delay.

I've just renamed the items and tweaked some descriptions. These items were all from the Brass Costume Trunk, which mentions a legend in its description, so I renamed the items to "Elegant (item) of Legend" and "Imperial (item) of Legend". See changed items here.

I also tweaked any item descriptions that needed an update, including the cherry blossom. Finally, I did a search and removed the word "oriental" from any other item descriptions that had it.

This should take care of official items. I'm currently discussing with how we'd like to handle CWs with the same issues. Those will be taken care of.

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Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago
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Thank.you for this update. <3 truly appreciate all the work staff does


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Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago
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Yay! ;u; Thank you for the changes & the update, I super appreciate y'all. ❤️


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Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago
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Thank you

Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago
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So glad to see this. :)


Apr 16, 2021 4 years ago
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Thanks so much for doing this Bug (and staff!). :)

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Apr 20, 2021 4 years ago
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Pollinator

What an elegant renaming solution. :D Thank you! I was happy to see the broken "item not found" indicators in this thread when I opened it.

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Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Hi everyone! Apologies for the delay.

I'm going through the custom items right now to rename ones that have "Oriental" in the name. In the interest of simplicity, all instances of "Oriental" are being changed to "Imperial". Unfortunately some of these CWs are very old and done by users no longer on site, and it's impractical for us to reach out to each submitter individually to ask for a change. That being said, - if one of your items has been changed and you have a different name you'd like to see, you can submit a ticket and we'll change it (as long as it's site appropriate!).

Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago
Delirium
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Time Lord

Thank you Jessi! ❤️


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Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago
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Thank you!

However, these two items still have Oriental in the discription: [item2=Fresh Imperial Poppy Scented Gardening Braid] [item2=Imperial Kimono Bow]

Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago
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Sucre

Oriental poppy is the name of a species of flower. I don't think that one should be changed to imperial but the word oriental could maybe just be omitted if necessary?

Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago
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I know some people around Subeta think the Decepticons (the bgdc, kabbscabal and feralroses groups) just want to start trouble but these are the kinds of changes we've been asking and hoping for since forever.

Thank you so much.


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