there have been. a lot of STRONG FEELINGS put forth regarding this latest gelatin war

and so i would like to complain about a thing too

I HATE ACHIEVEMENT BOUND, MULTI USE LOOT

i realize that we want to preserve some semblance of value for these things! but i hate only being able to win one of a thing, when i could've previously earned multiples! it feels vaguely like i am being punished for 1) not getting into battling early enough/boosting fast enough and for 2) not raising multiple battle pets from the beginning so as to maximize my loot earning potential.

is this a petty complaint? sure! but it's the one thing about battling that really, truly sticks in my craw. SO HERE'S YOUR PETTY BATTLE-RELATED FEEDBACK OF THE DAY.

I agree. Multi-use, achievement bound loot is sad. At the very least, I would've preferred if you could earn a duplicate after getting a ridiculous amount of wins. Like, that 100 win tier for the Wizard could've gotten you a second Gelatin Concoction - because let's be honest, it's a fantastic wearable. Perhaps not the most ideal of solutions, but maybe it's a step in the right direction.

More things need to be achievement prizes from the get go, agreed.

no, [sup]pls,[/sup] [sup][sup]thats not what i meant[/sup][/sup] ngl i laughed but then i felt that like a punch aimed directly at my greedy, loot-motivated soul

This ruffles my feathers, especially the harder to earn ones. in particular, though. It was available one year previously. It's a wearable, weapon, great TC item, harder to earn (even for higher tiered pets), and is now part of a genetech combo. I just wanna talk.

The achievement prizes for battling are punishing the people with multiple battle pets I feel. I agree with your first point, that it sucks for new people to not be able to benefit from the old system, but the 2nd point doesn't make much sense.

I do agree though, it would be nice to be able to earn more of the achievement items, like have higher tiers of the achievements to allow you to gain a second one for your wardrobe/TCs etc. Especially for things like the slappy hand and the concoction which get eaten up in genetech combos, but are also nice to have on their own!

I think it's unfair for the ones, that were at some point, available in multiples. I like the new system though, because no one can farm the items and lower their rarity/profit/etc.

I think it would be fine if the gelatin concoction reset each war. I was willing to buy one for the past two years, but there were none available.

I wouldn't mind have second tiers of the achievements like said. Having multiple loots at 5 wins per pet though, meh, that was too easy.

I too have strong feelings about this. I understand the need for not flooding the market with hard to earn battle loot because you can only equip one or they only have a single purpose. However, with stuff like cash shop opponents, I feel it was extremely unfair to give out underwhelming loot for a challenger people could have paid real money for to unlock.

Take for example the meatslab series. Baal was always an achievement prize. However, the 5th win drop for meatslab the furious, an opponent that requires a T12 pet to beat, used to be 4 tomes. Now the fifth win drop only gives 1 tome. What is the purpose of that if not to penalize those that couldn't beat meatslab before the reset? If someone is able to beat meatslab they are most likely using the tomes they just won, not selling them so it wouldn't be flooding the market.

Instead of taking away loot, especially for challengers people had to unlock with CSC, new loot should have been added that are on par with the original loot (ie: new scrolls or weapons to replace weapons, new boosters to replace boosters, books, etc).

The longer I play this game, the more I am convinced that battling has always been designed for the benefit of very few users and will continue to stay that way. :P

Ages ago, I would have fun at this, but battling is just punishment. There's no lasting accomplishment, things get changed and, what you did before? eh. It's even worse now so prepare to struggle again at that thing you were just getting good at. I find myself only doing it now to get the crap so I can hopefully have a better chance at the next 1-time/2-weeks-only challengers, instead of finding out that "oh that one-time thing from 5 years ago? had you did more, you'd be able to more easily do this thing now. were you working? didn't have internet? sucks to be you because it'll never. exist. again an no one sells it either."

Anyway, rather see something like the new loot come out at 10 wins and the old loot be set at 5 wins. Then, the next time event you can fight that thing? Retire the 5 loot, bump the 10 loot down to 5 and put the new loot at 10 (& don't bring it back for whatever maintains that ever precious "value"). &, to be clear, I'm only using 10 and 5 as an example as I do not make money off of battling and do not care about the number. Make it higher, do whatever, those are just simple to understand numbers.

Yeah, it's the first time that the core may have a use for me, I sold the Concoction when I was not close to get the core, but then I got the core twice and sold them twice because I had no use for them.. the Concoction costed too much to even bother with it.

And let's not start with retired achievements loot, the challengers were released a few times but the achievements stayed retired along with the loot.

Ugh, so much this. I'm a pixel hoarder! Stop giving me pretty things that I have to destroy in order to get a bigger, better thing! I still haven't used my concoction or baal because I want to keep them, and that's clearly not a logical way to play.

Plis let me have everything

It's all I want

e v e r y t h i n g

I'll earn my way there eventually, I swear. I'm not asking for it to be easy, just possible.

That would be awesome for the baal too cause it alone is a great weapon but making us choose between it and the Cronus is cruel lol

Unf, yes, I would love to see an achievement that awarded another Baal at like 100 kills or something stupid. It's a stupid number but it's a second Baal, and you can always train more pets as Meatslab is always available.

knowing me I would probably legitimately try to get a 2nd baal and I havent even gotten my first one yet lmao

LOL gotta go ham!!!! tbh the sec 666 hits t12 im throwing my cronus at you so you can beat meatboi up lol

I'm down for having achievements that require more battles in order to unlock a second copy of a weapon. Like, beat Meatslab 3, 20 times, and boom, you get another Baal for your troubles. Same with the Gelatin Wizard and the Concoction.

And we've yet to see the elephant in the room be addressed still AHEMSandreaverAHEM like we did with SoSS. I'd be fine with re-releasing these old weapons for brand new plot bosses so long as they fit thematically. I look at it this way: you can buy an SoSS now, or you can wait to see if a new boss will potentially reward you with one. Both methods require effort in different means, though the latter is more rewarding imo, since anyone could drop hundreds of real life dollars into the site and sell the CSC to be able to afford buying an SoSS from the antique shop.

But trust me, I do prefer achievement-based compared to the old way. PBB lost their value so quick, and that really cheapens the hell one would have to go through to get it dropped from that wretched mouse. If one gets into battling, ya gotta go through the same hell the rest of us went through, don't be cheating yourself out of the experience if you can just buy the weapon from someone else.

I'm sorry you feel like that, I kinda hate those too. x( But I must confess, I feel like the whole battle scene is WAY too complex for me, a casual battler - I have a tier 12 pet that I trained myself yet I'm sure I don't use more than 30% of it's potential because I'm just too shy to ask for help and join the battle community. And without their help it's extremely overwhelming to understand everything and be able t provide feedback on it.

Even with all that I still feel like subeta has the BEST battle system I have ever seen in a pet site;

What I like:

1. There wasn't that much lag.
2. There's a new godly weapon with another icon type that everyone can potentially get.
3. The pet hunger issues were temporarily fixed with a workaround in the beginning of the event.

Mixed thoughts:

1. The BAs answering questions in the BC chat and news are a hit and miss in responsiveness.
2. The amount of challengers remaining is inconsistent. The minis and gliders weren't replished most of Saturday. There were too many golems in comparison. The others were a bit low to begin with, but were replenished in a timely manner.
3. The achievement bound loot. For the same reasons that other gave.

What I didn't like:

1. Making the existing Super Slappy Jelly hand a combo for the new godly. I would prefer a new item awarded from the Gelatin Stomper achievement as an ingredient for the combo. The concoction worked fine because the first time it's released is from the achievement. I think it's self explanatory about the problems when capping the number of items earned by early adopters and making it explode in value.
2. The damage requirements went up drastically for several prizes. And we don't know what tiered goals to expect when battling hydra until they are announced, for only the core that is. It seems reminiscent that the same things get more difficult as time goes on, and it could be said about battling in general. Perhaps aim to create new and better things instead next time?

Hello, biggest reason I don't battle. That and those where the user who has the most or second most damage done per battle gets one of two super, duper, extraordinarily rare wears. Yeah, I ain't gonna bother, thanks, bye.

Don't @ me for this.