I'm afraid to suggest, but wouldn't it be great if they reduce the price of the CSC pet slots? I heard that they already reduced it, but 2000CSC (20$) are kinda much, isn't it. I think 10$ wouldn't be too much, but also not that low, so it would be still a "premium" feature.

There are sooo many pet names, I would like to have, but as a student, I'm to poor to pay for example 100$, for 5 pet slots.

Don't know, what you all think.

You can buy CSC with sP from user shops. So being poor IRL isn't really much of an excuse. I bought all of my CSC slots by getting CSC from user shops because I can't afford to buy CSC with real money either.

You also get loyalty boxes after your second year on the site, which can be used to get a free pet slot once a year. Quest-a-thons also happen at least once a year too.

That aside... I have mixed feelings on this. I don't know how much server space pets even take up, so the idea might not even be viable from a tech perspective. The last time prices were cut for pet slots, users that were maxed or bought slots before got some free slots as compensation.

On one hand, it would be great! Especially for people with tons of pets! I'm maxed on all pet slots, so I'd probably end up with... what, 20, 30 free slots if they lowered the prices again? And I know that I wouldn't be the only user who would get a ton of free compensation pet slots. And if staff didn't lower the prices, there would be a LOT of upset users because Subeta lowered prices in the past and compensated us for the difference, so why not this time?

It would also reflect on the economy. Prices of CSC would go up because many people would take this opportunity to get even more pets for a cheaper price. Special-posed potion prices would also go up by default.

It's a complicated thing to balance. People pay 20-50$/2000-5000CSC for a batch of a custom clothing items they've made themselves, so 20$ for a pet slot seems like a fair price in comparison.

So while I would be really happy if they did this, I'm going to have to say no because, in my opinion, it sadly has far too much potential to end up in a flaming clusterfuck. :/

Everything Frost said and one more: The pet slots were lowered once already when it switched from plushies to buying from the pet page. It isn't that much if you quest daily. 20 dollars is a good price as it is. It is attainable if worked for without given out for free BUT!

There is also the Millionaire Center (MC building in Centropolis.) where you can get pet slots for SP! It goes up with every slot but it's a great goal.

Also now and then there is prizes and Quest-a-thon's that'll reward pet slots. - Those are Free-

Still 20 dollars isn't that bad. It's the conversion that kills me. ^_^ but I still buy 'em buy saving up and buying gift-cards from user shops.

👍 Thank you! :'D I'm a space cadet today and forgot the MC pet slots existed.

Wow, I'm torn because while I agree with Frost, going from the "Quest all day every day to get X amount of sP over a period of 1-5 to even 10 years" makes the goal seem absolutely unobtainable so be fair.

tbh the max is unobtainable to begin with because there's no way to get 92 pet slots (93 is the absolute max afaik?) because of the bonus slots given from the plushie price cuts. ._.

Saving up for csc petslots is absolutely doable with questing, occasional restocking and a good sprinkling of luck. And ofc, being a little bit market-savvy - selling excess tokens/holiday currency when prices and demand are high, selling newly released plushies & lifelike dolls for CSC, and so on.

Nowadays you have the bathhouse and every little bit of CSC helps with the petslot goals. 100CSC cards are a good way to make slow but steady progress toward a petslot if you don't want to spend ALL of your sP on CSC. Plus, bonus weekends lower the price of CSC a bit, so there's also that boon.

Like.... it's doable. It's absolutely doable, it just depends on how much time and effort you want to invest grinding for the CSC vs. getting the instant gratification of immediately buying it with real cash.

I mean, if you can stay focused (I can't) quests take like an hour or two at most (unless maybe if your connection is bad or your computer is laggy or whatever) which is probably a lot for some people to devote on a daily basis but even a few times a week, I'd say it's probaby reasonable to estimate 100 CSC a week bought with sP. Plus 150 CSC a month from the bathhouse, that'd be ~550 CSC a month. Four months feels like a long time to save up for a pet slot, but it doesn't seem unreasonable?

Keep in mind that the MC slots are all currently cheaper than buying with CSC so that's 15 slots that will save you a little bit of money (and also let you collect from the bathhouse for months while you work towards those)

I really don't see staff going for this one, and although I've been kicking myself for not stocking up on more pet slots back when they went on sale for Black Friday and I was actually able to buy CSC on a regular basis, I don't really think the price needs to be dropped again. Sure, it'd be nice, but staff's been really good lately about giving us more opportunities for pet slots that aren't paid with CSC in addition to just being able to buy CSC with sP, and I don't think it's necessary to drop the price

Those are all well and true points but this is still a kid's site. And this is a tired argument so I'm just gonna back down from my end of it because I'm not going to come across as concise as others and therefore, people will decide to tear me a new one, lol.

@ Hanzo True, butyeah. I def wouldn't have anything against reduced pet slot prices (I'm always thirsty for petslots). But... I see it becoming a huge mess. :'D Imagine us old, determined farts getting like 20+ free slots if the prices get cut and we get that compensation. Would end up being a hot mess of grabbing all of the petnames!

IDK, maybe cut them to like 15$ to make it lower, but not flood the system with compensation slots? Or like... have a surprise flash petslot sale? Absolutely random, once a year, and not tied to Black Friday. Because if petslots were on Black Friday, very few people would buy them for full price during the year.

[edit]Also if you wanna bounce ideas of whatev, hmu in comments or mail. Because I am not opposed to this idea, I'm just really wary of the aftermath.

[edit]Double edit. WHOA WHAT DOES IT MEAN re: "it's a children's site" Yep, it's a children's site with a toy economy. :x Teaches kids to work hard for the things they want. Or if they're rich IRL, they can get things served up immediately. Mimics real life in that sense. Andthat'sdepressing, but I don't really see a way around it. ._.

I think $20 is too much too (for a pet, not that $20 is too much for me to spend on CSC) but then again, it's probably not for me.

Maybe put the CSC cards on your wishlist if you haven't already. Sometimes, people are super nice around Lumi and you might end up with a surprise from somebody to help you get closer.

Yeah, that was a typo. I meant month (hence why the total of 550 was per month)

100 csc a week without a gold account and the accompanying perks is also a stretch. You’d have to dedicate almost everything to the slot. But, whatever. I don’t crave slots to the point where I would funnel all my income for four months to getting them to the exclusion of everything else so it’s hardly my fight. I’m just going to be told L2P.

Having been here when it was 3mil/100csc and even lower... I have to agree. YES, you can 100% grind it out and get pets every couple months, but at 11mil/100csc, and the quests giving out similar rewards to back when it wasn't so inflated... it leaves very little room to invest in and enjoy much else for free to play players. I spend money on occasion, but $20 per pet is high. Half the time you don't even get the exact name you want, you get some weird variation or misspelling unless you get super lucky with a name you've been stalking or adopt. THEN you have to paint the pet, and if you pick a neela or angelic pet (let alone an angelic neela), you can kiss another couple months worth of savings goodbye. Twenty bucks for that? No thanks.

So yes, it's possible, but the grind time is excessive. Maybe a compromise could be a tiered csc system similar to the millionaire center that resets every year? You get 1 slot for 500, a slot for 1000, then one for 1500, then it goes back to normal. Rinse and repeat the following year. This would not devalue pet slots, and would not require Subeta to retroactively refund people who paid $20 per slot. It would also give the free to play crowd something nice to look forward to. It might even encourage people who don't spend... to spend! "Hey, it's only $5/$10 and I can even afford an angelic potion too so why not?"

... Okay, you might be on to something.

The charm of the MC pet slots (besides the obvious sP price) is "Hey have a wonderful thing for relatively cheap! Oh, now that you bought it, it's slightly more expensive, but still affordable! Oh hey, now it's really expensive, but you can do it we believe in you!". And before you know it, you've spent 800m+ sP on petslots.

I still feel it would heavily depend on how server-intensive it would be, butyeah. A price gradation like that? That might work out a bit better instead of a hard, constant price cut.

Either that, or make some way for people to get a CSC purchase percent discount. Because I can still see fallout over a price reduction that comes with the gradual price increase suggestion.

I don't see fallout if it's limited tbh, except from maybe the very few individuals who have capped. Even then, allowing them to get the tiered slots wouldn't be all too terrible as a "new pet" is not a big strain on the server. Everyone scrambling at the same time to -make- their new pets after quest-a-thon will be a temporary strain, but that's about it.

You don't have to buy pet slots every single day, like bread. Some people here make it sound as if it's an impossible dream, similar to buying a house. Come on folks! you want a something in real life you save up for it, the same goes for this site or any other game. If pet slots were so easily available, what would we look forward to, really? just be grateful it's not 20,000 CSC or who knows.

I'm definitely against lowering the price of the pet slot especially when we have MC, when we get free CSC from the bathhouse, and the loyalty boxes. i think making money (sP) became really easy on subeta. you dont like questing? fine, don't do them all. concentrate on Shinwa, Wizard and Quentin where you have the option to get:

• the stat boosters which you can sell for CSC,
• the Wiz tokens (i dont understand why they sell for so much lately. they used to be half the price) which you can either sell for CSC or vend and sell everything in the store, and then buy CSC from other users,
• the mage amulets that are highly wanted and can easily sell them for CSC as well.

Honestly my issue with this has very little to do with how much I've spent in the past (yeh one MC slot away from maxed @ 89 slots) because I know if staff lowered the cost they'd either throw me a few bones or let me buy more.

My issue with this is:

1. Subeta needs real money to exist. The site can't be 100% free because servers aren't free, programmers aren't free, UAs aren't free, and artists aren't free. Those services & humans behind our enjoyment require real money.
2. My biggest issue, there as been much debate in the past regarding "pets don't bring the site enough money" and "we have more wears/CWs because they bring revenue for the site". I'm a firm believer in if pets are a leech, then help them make the site money so they can get more attention. If this is still the case then I'd hate to see one of the few official money makers be made even less significant to the existence of the site. If pets stay a leech, eventually they'll just be phased out (which is already the vibe @ how many pets we never get*).

(*yes yes, pets have been a focus the past month are so. This is primarily because of a shitstorm from users, and realistically it won't last before wears come back with a vengeance)

That is an issue that Subeta has always had: it's a pet site that's more about avatars than pets. It's quite strange! I think maybe allowing people to get more pets, AND bringing more pet-related content (beyond battling, as much as I love it, I understand some people don't) would definitely ramp up that side of things? Hopefully it happens, but if not, I must agree that wears will indeed come back with a vengeance.

I hope wearables won't come back with a vengeance. - we have to many of them as is. :/ Though i do like clothes on here as much as many other users. but i'm going off topic here. more battle related stuff would be cool. but i do hope the artists will find the time and energy to release the pet colors we're missing. and revamping those who need it.