Before you jump on me screaming that you paid x amount of millions of sp to get an old collection, just hear me out for a minute. If you haven't been on subeta ever since it was created, there's probably an old monthly collection with something inside it that you want, but weren't around to get. That's the case with a lot of old items, which are brought back every now and then (within reason, of course old plot prizes and stuff aren't just "brought back")

I'm just looking at this from a money standpoint for subeta, I have a feeling that if they stuck old monthly collections in the cash shop from years past, people would most certainly buy them and get subeta money.

Like if there was something you wanted from the November 2010 collection but you didn't sign up until 2013, that kinda sucks. But what if they put that collection in the cash shop again? You'd buy it to get that item you want, right?

This is something I've been thinking about for a while now, and I can't really think of any negative consequences of this, other than people being sour that they paid ungodly amounts of sp for something only to have it make an appearance once again. Which, again, happens sometimes.

I really truly think that bringing back old monthly collections and making them available for purchase would benefit subeta's income. I keep hearing that "nothing stays retired forever." Well...? Thoughts?

I can support this, I'm sure a lot of people have something from an older monthly collection they'd like and if it's bringing in more revenue for the site, then that's great! Staff has said before, that most things don't stay retired forever. I think this is a nice idea.

but who was CS hustler?

though srsly, they need a slightly better way to do it than the hustler or have the hustler be quicker.

I also wouldnt mind it showing up on Black Friday or some other arbitrary day at FULL price or at a reasonable markup.

I always forget about the hustler to be honest. My idea is to bring back old collections for the duration of the month, and at full price / the price it was when it was first there.

Like there's the November 2014 collection, and one old November collection.

edit: but if they brought back old collections for black friday I think sales would blow up

we have the Hustler and also Lumineve Gifts... so.. getting old items is actually relatively attainable since there are chances of them being introduced at any given time anyway. thats the entire point of these two features. no

Not sure what you mean by "lumineve gifts" but looking at the hustler, whom I always forget about, it seems that there's only a certain amount of the item before it's gone or something?

I'm saying unlimited amount of old collection for the duration of the appropriate month. Every year there could be the return of an old collection along with the new one. December 2014 collection and December 2011 collection; January 2015 collection and January 2013 collection.

A lot of the time I find myself not wanting anything from the new collection that comes out. But if they offered an old collection at the time, I might be like "oh yeah, I wanted that" and make up a sale that they otherwise wouldn't get.

by "Lumineve Gifts" i do in fact mean Lumineve Gifts.

I can see where you are coming from but honestly a lot of the older items either deflate considerably anyway, or they are usually fairly attainable (~10-20m) and if they were available every year there would just be no point. the same goes for the hustler having limited number of items.

The only problems I have with the Hustler, is that it's one item that there's only x amount of and that's there for x amount of time and then you have to hope the collection item you want is next, hope you're online when it restocks, hope that there's any left, and also hope the Hustler doesn't break. I know he's done that before.

As for Lumineve Gifts, again that's random. I'm one that loves to know what I'm getting. If I'm not going to be getting exactly what I want from that box, then I don't necessarily want to purchase it. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. It's nice if you want a surprise, but not if you want something specific.

No no, I don't mean the same items being available every year. One year it could be a 2012 collection and the next it could be a 2009 one. and then the next, 2010 etc... Something random like that and you wouldn't see an old collection again for several years.

Continuing example from the last post I wrote: I didn't want anything from the November 2014 collection. There's something I want from the November 2009 collection. If both collections were available at once I would pay for the 2009 collection and not the 2014 one.

I am not opposed to this idea but do want to point out there is also the Miniature Vending Machine which gives you 3 random collection items. And while you may hate the idea of random, all "collection" items used to be random up until 2009.

I don't think this is really needed honestly. Most of the collections have a few copies on shop search, and most of the items inside are there too, even cheaper than the collections. I know it sucks not being on the site to buy them cheaper when they were released, but someone who has been playing for years of course will have more advantage than someone that just joined.

If collections start disappearing from SS in the future, then I'm all for this suggestion. I just don't think it's needed at the moment.

, yes, but even with your example, the November 2009 Collection is currently 6m in shops and there are PLENTY of them. how cheap are you wanting them to be? 2m? thats less than what you would pay in CSC anyway...

I think to make things fair, the collections in shops that aren't at least as much as you'd pay for a collection normally should be exempt from this until they cost an arm and a leg, then they can be brought back into the cash shop pool. Then no one can feel cheated, right?

what I'm trying to get at is that I think it's more beneficial to the site to buy the collection from the cash shop than to buy it with sp from another user. If I'm misconstrued in that thought then I apologize.

Look, it was just an example. I'm not TRYING to be cheap or beg for a collection to be 2 mil. You are not reading me correctly... The whole point of this idea was to bring in extra revenue to the site. There are plenty of monthly collections that are extremely overpriced and scarce and bringing them back to the cash shop would only put money in subeta's pocket in my opinion.

Again, I must be wrong in thinking that this would bring in money to this site...

The whole point of collections are that they time exclusive. That is the reason they are only available for the respective month.

Bringing older collections back for an entire month just so the site can make more money doesn't seem like a valid reason to me.

I think utalizing the Hustler more is a more appropriate venue. Yes it sucks that someone joined too late to purchase a collection, but I dont think that means they should be given access to it a year or two down the road.

Again, staff has said that most items don't stay retired forever. No one said that things from about 2 years ago need to be brought back, unless they are super expensive. I think bringing money into the site is more than enough of a good reason, but that's probably just me.

And why not? I totally get "older is better" "you should have joined sooner" "older users privilege over new users" blah blah, but I think the site making money is always a valid reason. There have been rumors for months that subeta is struggling financially, which have always been denied by staff, and I don't know whether it is or not, but I don't want it to ever have to actually get to that point. Supporting subeta with money isn't a bad thing, and if you can get what you want and help subeta at the same time then what's the problem?

Not necessarily you, but I always get the feel that older user privilege is more important than benefiting the site. Which I don't understand. Yes, perks for old players is important and awesome, but I don't see a difference in you (figuratively) paying 250 csc for a collection 4 years ago and someone paying 250 csc for the same collection right now. It's probably just me though 😅

[edit] I accept the fact that not doing this idea doesn't affect the site one way or another so it's not urgent that it's implemented or even if it's implemented at all. After a while I'll accept that my idea is bad and no one likes it but I'll keep fighting to explain myself and the idea I have until then :P

If Subeta did this, I feel like it would be dipping into the "false advertising" realm and while I realize that the site needs money to function, there are far better ways for them to get it then essentially lying to users about how long items will be made available. And the site doesn't need money THAT bad right now, based on the news about hitting the daily goal repeatedly and that sp buff we got for quests.

I has nothing to do with older user perks. The collections are the one thing onsite that doesn't regularly get added back onsite because they are specific to a month and year.

Costume trunks, retired CS wearables, retired Delish all make formalvreturns back to the CS at some point.

The collections are still available through random means, (Luminaire Gifts, Mini Vending Machine, Hustler) that I do not think it justifies breaking the trend that DPs/Collections can only be bought from the CS during the month they were offered.

When the idea of "well the site would profit" is brought up. i think it needs to outweigh the potential cons. In this case, (and you are free to disagree) I don't think people buying a 2.50 CS item outweighs the removal of the single month to get the collection aspect.

@ JESSYTA @ Klassikal Hm. I guess that's right. It's just that the whole reason I thought this up was, I'm always finding items from old collections that have already gone, and thinking that if they were brought back into the cash shop I would rather buy them from there than with sp from another user. You guys get that right?

But I do have to agree about the "false advertising" now that it's brought up. :/

But I'm always looking towards the future, not necessarily the financial standpoint of this moment in time. I think it would be cool if subeta made so much money that it was spruced up to the point where there's like, no lag during events. (which people currently write off as normal and settle for mediocrity)

But this was a bad idea I suppose.

[edit] I also get that 250 csc isn't exactly a lot but I like to think that every little bit counts towards something. It would add up.