So I am 3 years and 7 months on this site and can't take part in the festivities because I couldn't grab a ticket... I really like this site - usually - and this is really making me sad. I can't afford to go to usual festivals. So this was making me happy with the festival. Realy cool idea and I LOVE this band stuff!

What I mean: On Subeta you can buy and trade etc. and got more clothes than in real life and so on. (I imagine people having allergies and can't own a real life pet, etc - all these kinds of things.) But this is just keeping users outside and making them feel bad. Sorry but I just had to say this. You should be aware of what you do to your members subeta staff. (New ones can't afford these tickets.) That's what I mean.

[small] I hope this doesn't affect the band voting. It's just my humble opinion which I couldn't keep quiet about.[/small]

The regular tickets have been stocking for awhile and they are cheap. Unless you refer to vip...

There are plenty of Peka-Boo tickets still in the token shop right now.

You've been around for almost 4 years and can't afford less than 2 million?

If you are talking about VIP, well you aren't missing much of anything, a few items that can be purchased from other people, and a set of achievements.

Yeah I am talking about achievements and stuff. Usually EVERYONE can take part without those worries. That's what I mean. It's not (only) about SP. (But think about the new users as well) That's what this is about. Everyone should be able to take part. That's all I was trying to say.

So this is about it in general and NOT about me. It's the way things were handled this time.

Obligatory you don't have to have everything, you decide how much, and obligatory you can purchase CSC or CSC items with sP.

[small]Shouldn't have written that. I KNEW someone would pick that out. :V Will take that out right now. - It was even written in small.[/small]

I stay with my complaints about all the other things I stated and tried to explain. Sad if no one gets the point (never thought my english would be that bad tho).

"Because you can buy and trade etc. and got more clothes than in real life and so on. (I imagine people having allergies and can't own a real life pet, etc - all these kinds of things.) ... But this is just keeping users outside and making them feel bad. Usually EVERYONE can take part without those worries. That's what I mean. ... It's not (only) about SP. (But think about the new users as well)"

Think of the new users! I think you may be missing some points too though.

Vip tickets: achievements = bad for me.

General point of this topic: Handling of the event for ALL users. Because usually EVERYONE can take part! (No matter how many SP they have, if they are noobs etc)

Talking about luminaire and vesnali, that kind of usual site events.

Not talking about VIP, has there been an influx of users talking about how they can't afford the ticket from the token shop o__O?

Because I literally haven't seen a single person to date mention this, and I feel like if there were new users who couldn't scrape together the sP that there are countless users who'd give them a ticket. Anf there are countless users giving away the VIP items (most don't even want the cost in return).

I don't understand this board at all 8(

I still don't see how every "usual site" event/holiday/plot has achievements that are completely accessible to everyone though.

Since they don't.

You don't have to understand my opinion. That's fine and up to you. It's just something to think about. - To each their own.

I am talking about access to the events itself. (Not achievements. - The partake in events!) Because without a ticket, you can't even view the shops etc.

You don't need a VIP ticket to access it. A regular ticket is fine and like I said in my first post, there are plenty of them in the token shop still. Literally hundreds. And if a newbie doesn't have enough tokens like others have said, other users who do will happily buy a newbie a ticket, which is something that has already been going on.

These hypothetical newbies-in-need only have to ask about the event in Help & Questions or make a topic in Wanted. Even people who don't like to comment or post can find plenty of information and help just by browsing, reading, and lurking. This entire "problem" is largely hypothetical and discounts a lot of the responses that are being posted here.

Regular tickets have been stocked in the token shop frequently, both before the event started and after. Right now there are still over 600 regular tickets left in the token shop. 1000 wizard tokens = 4 days of Wizard quests. Getting one could take even less time if said newbies played games, did their quests and did a bit of restocking.

So I'm honestly not sure what the complaint here is? ._. Do you want the staff to put hundreds of free tickets into the donation corner? Because that'd just make everyone who earned and bought their tickets from the token shop feel like crap.

It is accessible to everyone! There are multiple ways of doing so that don't require a lot of sPs - first we had plenty of warning before the event, lots of time to actually do wizard quests daily in order to acquire the 1000 tokens needed. Or, one could buy the necessary tokens from users - the cost of 1000 tokens is less than 1 Million sP, something anyone, newbie or not can earn in a single day.

The free events you talk about, while they don't require work to attend, do require work to get the 'rewards', like steamworks tokens, candy hearts, etc. So for Peka-Boo you had to work to get in, instead of working once the event began.

idk the way that she clarified makes more sense and I kind of agree.

In order to participate at all in this event you need to drop 1k tokens, or pay just under 1 million for a ticket. What event in all of the past events has required that?

Last Epicon tickets/lanyards were given as a free item. This year they were 1000 Wizard tokens. That's a pretty big shift.

I know there arevtons of people willing to gift tickets or even sell at a big discount, but that isnt the point she's making, it's that for (at least I can remember one) the first time, in order to participate in the event, you had to purchase something of a somewhat large amount (depending on how rich you are)

There's a ton of wizard tokens in the system. I'm guessing that's why they made it buyable for tokens instead of giving it out for free. Weekend quests and the vending cap hit the token prices pretty hard and they just kept sinking despite token shop restocks. If memory serves, the only times that token prices went up somewhat was the potion shop restock and the Peka-Boo tickets first stocking, and they're already back to being just under 1m for 1000 tokens.

I'm sure there was some thought beehind it, but all the same, it feels off to paying to grab a ticket that will allow you to spend money on itwms and participate invthe event.

I kind of disagree with lilo about it being comparable to masq, with masq the dancing is the event, the prizes are the shop items, likewise with vesnali the exchanging of flowers is the event and shop are prizes.

It's not really comparable to Masq, or Vesnali, or similar events that have their own currency-specific shops.

I think the closest I could compare it with would maybe be the reading drive? That's another event where you essentially had to pay to participate; spend sP for books to get reading points to spend in the shop. Only that this time, you had to spend tokens to get into the event and you spend sP to get the stuff you want.