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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
Sugar-Bean
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I know its pretty much past the point of return, but there has something that has been bothering me since I came to Subeta and its this,the Bloody Pets/Theme/Items.

Its not even the OLDER stuff, its the newer, more graphic pets (and I suppose some of the items) that makes my stomach turn. I understand that Subeta wants to appeal to those who want monsters as pets, not cute rainbow covered fluff balls, and thats totally cool! Most of my pets ARENT adorable, I like both the creepy and a the cute, but even the Graveyard designs seem to have a limit..the blood not so much.

I guess I just wish it could be toned back a little, or something I don't know. I mean as someone who is squeamish and very much dislikes gore, I feel for the person who faints at the sight of blood, digital or not. It's a common phobia and turn off, so I just wonder if anyone else wishes they'd turn it down just a touch? Even if it was dried blood I'd prefer it over just...dripping pets that look like they murdered a town and are parading around in their blood. There could even be an insane/crazy vibe going on so its a little creepier? Anyway, thats really the only thing that has ever bothered me here. Any thoughts?

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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I know the feeling, there are a few graveyard pets that make me downright uncomfortable to look at. Not sure what to suggest about it in terms of updates or solutions, but it's something to ponder.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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So... what? You want them to completely redraw all these pets because a few of them make a small section of the userbase a little squeamish? Get adblock and block the images if they bother you THAT much.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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If I really felt they should redraw everything I would have said it. This is a site feedback forum, and I am simply doing that, giving feedback. I don't expect the staff to suddenly make a change, or make any changes, but I find no harm in chiming in that I find the amount of blood they put on the pets a bit excessive.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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-bean

They're called bloodred for a reason. They're supposed to look like they just committed a murder, they're not going to have a couple smidgens of blood on them.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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No need to get hostile man, no one was saying they should redraw things. As far as I can tell this was approached as something to ponder, not some kind of huge Subeta censoring. And as someone who uses adblock on multiple browsers, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by using it to block out a select few pets and items.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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I'm not getting hostile. I don't understand what the point of this feedback board is if you're not asking them to redraw the pets. Do you want them to make future pets like they were before, with some red coloring on their fur and tiny drops of blood? It looks terrible like that. All the unrevamped bloodred pets have some red coloring, and a couple puddles of blood around them, and they look horrible. Before their revamps, the kumos and the serpenth didn't even HAVE blood on them, they just had red coloring.

You can use adblock to block images. You just right click on something and block it and it stops showing up. I've used it on a spider gif someone had in their signature.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
Flying Ace
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This seems like such a strange time to make this thread, when we haven't had anything remotely offensive since Morostide two months ago. Is it because of the Telenine in the pet spotlight today?

I don't have a problem with the bloodred pets at all, and I think there's a difference between gore and blood so i don't understand which we're talking about here.

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And as someone who uses adblock on multiple browsers, I&;m not exactly sure what you mean by using it to block out a select few pets and items.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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I am aware of that, thats what makes it a special coloring. But clearly they can get that idea across without buckets a blood, and more then a smudge. The Wyllop is a perfect essample of this;

It's creepy, it's bloody, and it doesn't look like you want to go anywhere near it. There are other pets, like the Tutani, that much more blood that, to me, comes off as excessive.

Yes, that was what I was going for thank you! As I mentioned in my first post it's obviously way past the point of the return, I don't think they'll just censor these pets because lets face it, there are a LOT of them. I just wanted to know if anyone else wished it was toned back a bit, regardless if it'll never happen or not.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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-bean

The tutani is underwater

The blood is diffusing into the water.

Again, if these few images are so disturbing to you block them with adblock. It's not that difficult.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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i get your feedback here, but what are you hoping to accomplish with this feedback exactly? subeta is unique amongst pet sites in that it does have pets that appeal to both the monster and blood-loving userbase as well as the userbase who want fluffy happy-go-lucky looking pets. bloodred pets are not generally to my taste, but i don't see any reason that they should do away with them. come on now, they're cartoon creatures and they're really pretty tame in my opinion.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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It's been on my mind for a while now, but yeah the Telenine is what brought it back up again (or well in my head). In my sleepyheadedness I may have made my POV unclear, I'm not terribly offended by the bloodred pets/items, they just don't sit well with me and I wish some of the pets weren't so excessive. Blood and Gore can be different yes, but when I think of blood I think of it more medically, without the underlying horror or dark undertones behind it. Of course thats just me! I'm happy that the pets aren't covered in organs, but what bothers some may not bother others. I did ask for thoughts on this, and you are entitled to your own.

Before I reply to the rest of your post I'd just like to make it clear that I'm NOT saying they should do away with the coloring at all! I don't think thats fair to anyone, I mean if they just did away with every pet that someone didn't like, or every color someone booed...well there wouldn't be any pets at all! It's looking like I was not clear enough, but my feedback is this; I PERSONALLY wish that some of the designs were toned back when it comes to the blood. Now since many of the designs have been updated in the past...what? Year or so, clearly they're not about to go "Oh yes lets update it again", but yes it be nice if maybe the ones they are going to redraw or haven't drawn yet were a little less bloody. Do I think they will do that? I really don't know, but I find no harm in speaking up and seeing if anyone else feels the same. If they don't, well hey they don't, I'm a one man band and thats cool! The point of feedback is simply that, to give feedback to the site. Whether or not they choose to listen/go with it, thats up to them and I respect that.

I didn't think of that with that pet, so thank you for pointing it out. It seems more logical now that it would be that way, before I thought they just covered it with blood.

Again, if they disturbed me that much I would have said as much. I understand you feel differently than me, and thats fine, but I'd appreciate it if you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I don't think I've been anything but civil in my posts and even if you do not mean to, you are coming off as hostile.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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This thread started up as a way for people to discuss parts of the site’s imagery that makes them uncomfortable. For example I love some of the graveyard designs, and even own one, while others make me physically uncomfortable when looking at them. You can never say for sure what's going to hit people harder. What's tame or even appealing to one person could make another uncomfortable. We’d never ask the staff to revamp an entire site just for that, but it’s good to talk about that sort of stuff. Coming in here and making it sound like you think we’re being oversensitive isn’t what this thread is about.

If you can block specific images that actually is really helpful and on point for this. I don’t want to be all over you about this kind of thing, but if people are upset by something it’s typically better to present your solution first rather than acting like they should get over it. I'm glad we managed to find one possible solution so fast.

Really, if there are ways to help folks have a good time in the site as simple as that, just make your suggestions. If you can’t be helpful you should probably just leave a thread alone. We aren’t petitioning to ban any horror or blood related pets, so chances are if you have no issue with them what happens here won’t affect you in any way.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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I am absolutely mortified by real blood. To the point of immediately fainting or collapsing in all cases. So I completely understand where you're coming from with this.

I think the general consensus in news posts is 'this looks too innocent / this doesn't look like how blood red should be' when the color is downplayed. So sadly, you may be one of very few people who're bothered by the bloodred pets and some of the other user items.

And while I realize you don't like the suggestion; I still also support you using adblock. Not just on Subeta, but on other places that cause you any kind of triggering with any images / etc. I know I use adblock to block a lot of my phobias because some of them don't bother other people and I don't feel that other people should cater to my fears as long as no one's being hurt (IRL) in the process.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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Tubbles

that's a lot of words just to tell us we can't have our opinion, but you can have yours.

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
Sugar-Bean
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I know a few people on Subeta who have a similar issue, and while they don't pass out looking at the pixels it does set them off. I'm not against the adblock idea, it just doesn't bother me enough here for me to use it. I will however be recommending it to my friends! And yeah, its looking like I'm the only one in this boat but thats alright, and sometimes thats how it goes! And I do actually use adblock on a lot of sites (also thank you tumblr savior) because I'd rather not accidentally walk into something by accident and get freaked out.

Thats not what I was saying at all! I apologize for coming off that way. I really do honestly feel that everyone is entitled to their opinions, and you are free to feel how you feel. I have no control over that. But if someone misunderstands me, I will speak up. It's as simple as that. You thought I was saying they should get ride of Bloodred and I was saying that...I didn't mean that at all.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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i have to say i'm curious where the line is drawn between "too much blood" and "acceptable amount of blood." seems awfully arbitrary going by what's being said in this thread, i must admit.


Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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i guess where i'm failing to connect is with what kind of change you would like to be made to the bloodred color to better appease the more squeamish audience of subeta? you basically just wish they would turn the bright red blood into dried (brown) blood instead and give the pets a more insane vibe as opposed to murderous?

Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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That was just a suggestion, if anyone else had any ideas they are free to share them! In retrospect insane looking might be going too far in the Nightmare direction since many of those look pretty crazy, but then again some colors overlap on occasion. Obviously Subeta can't please everyone, and those who are very squeamish should adblock rather than be trigger/upset. But if I'm thinking about design change, possibly for future pets I guess I'd just stick to paws/mouth, or just not making it look like a bucket of blood was dropped on them? In the case (which I know isn't going to happen) that they were going to revamp the bloodred pets look I think it be neat if it was a more "warrior out of battle" look, roughed up but dignified...if thats even a thing. Like a gladiator that just survived a match or something.

The line is drawn on personal tastes I guess, like with...well anything. We all could argue where it is, but we'd never find it. I'd just like to hear where people think it is I suppose.

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Dec 29, 2013 12 years ago
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It just seems weird to me to go after the bloodred pets and say that the graveyard pets have an appropriate limit on gore:

Cartoon blood, to me, is just the color red, whereas open wounds are always gross and not something I want to see on a regular basis. I guess that goes to show that since everyone has different tolerance levels for various things, so there's really no practical limitations they can put on these pets so that they won't offend anyone.


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