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November 13, 2008 4:15 pm

After much discussion amongst themselves, the dragons have announced that they would henceforth prefer to be referred to as rreigns to better distinguish themselves from the plethora of other dragon species on Subeta. One of Subeta's most famous rreign, <a href="/pets/Prototype%20CURIE">Curie</a>, has informed us that the name is pronounced much like our word rain with a guttural growl-like sound at the beginning.

Despite the suggestive nature of the word ''prefer,'' they would also like to include that anyone choosing not to respect their wishes does so at their own risk of being summarily fried and devoured by a more sensitive member of their species! :o

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-Shrug- I like it better than Dragon. It just goes to show that no matter how insignificant, there is always going to be someone who is going to be anal about it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm glad your changing it, I just don't like rreign. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">But.....why? Its not a very good idea to me...I dont much like the names always changing. I have enought trouble remembering the names as it is with out them being changed on a regular basis.

When it comes down to it Dragon wasn't particularly original, and all other pet names have been changed due to the same reason or because they sounded to close to other site pets.

Though I do prefer when pets have a rename when a redraw has taken place, a new image, a new name, a new pet.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

But.....why? Its not a very good idea to me...I dont much like the names always changing. I have enought trouble remembering the names as it is with out them being changed on a regular basis. <.<

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Giant lol at most of the posts here. Who knew people would take a game site so seriously?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The name is currently capitalized, but Luxe has been arguing fervently that this will change in time. Maybe she's wrong, but it seems she's speaking authoritatively here.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Doesn't Ddraig also begin in a double consonant?

I know the double r was inspired by the Welsh language, but dd is actually part of the welsh alphabet, a letter so to speak.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Okay, sillies. The new name is capitalized. See my Rreign for proof. That should make some of you happy.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

A lot of people here at Subeta are grammar freaks (including myself), so they'll be tempted to capitalize the name anyway. XD Cause it's a proper noun.. has to be capitalized either way. At least here in the US.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Interesting name. The double R seems to me like someone has a stutter.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

No, actually, the only way I would consider calling the pet as a whole "dragon" appropriate if the different colors were actually different WERE different species. The individual colors, as species, would still be capitalized, like "Marsh Dragon" and "Twilight Dragon", but "dragon" itself would be lowercase because it was referring to a group of species.

I was assuming that the different colors were just different colors of the same single species (which is what you seem to be saying as well.)

In that case, I think calling a Twilight Dragon a twilight Dragon looks kind of silly, but it would be perfectly proper. (Just like it would be, "albino Blue Jay" not "Albino Blue Jay."

But the species name should still be capitalized.

By that argument, calling the species

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'd like to think that things like Angelic are genetically different, for sure.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Rreigns like Reigns like Reign which means to rule?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yet a Nightmare Ruffie is far more comparable to a Pit Bull than to a Black Dog. Sun and Twilight and the like may be just colors--it's difficult to make the same comparison with the drastic changes made with Nightmare, Galactic, Angelic, etc.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I feel really bad about saying this, but.. I really hate the new name. The double r annoys the crap out of me. It's definitely unique, though. I'll give you guys that. xD;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well I don't particularly like the lowercase aspect I don't ever remember speaking about the species in the past. I figure I wont talk about them much in the future, either. If I do happen to talk about them you can rest assured the species name will be at the beginning of a sentence. Problem solved!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOL @ how OMG some of you over this.

Look. I own 2 dogs. They are Pit Bulls. But if I was to refer to them by color I wouldn't say 'I have a Black Dog and a Tan Dog'. THAT looks stupid. But that is what some of you expect Subeta to do...

NEWSFLASH: Just because something was done a certain way before doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Stop being so resistant to change. Change is how things become better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I couldn't care less, I don't have a Rreign, so it doesn't matter to me ouo

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wingrising, that is exactly our point, though. A sun rreign isn't a specific species of rreign. It's a rreign that happens to be available in the sun color. It isn't any different from a twilight rreign or common rreign. You're viewing our colors and species names as though when put together they created something genetically different, when what we're saying is that it's no more specific than a black dog or a white tiger. Sun, twilight, spectrum, etc., are color names, not genetic modifications.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOL Clever name. Clever spelling. And I like the gutteral sound the two /r/s make. Oh, and Ian's pet... I so want one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think someone said earlier that the lower case are was a typographical error. Hence, thus and therefore if you go to a users lookup that has a Rreign you will find the capital letter. I'm too lazy to check if this is true or not.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

My DRAGON will forever be known as a DRAGON. I don't care what he prefers. The double r is uncalled for and I hate this uncapitalization. This may be how cats and dogs are, but this is Subeta.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I find it ironic that this is being defended as proper usage when names of species actually generally are capitalized.

This is always true of birds: it's not a blue jay, it's a Blue Jay. It's not a robin, it's an American Robin.

(Also, randomly throwing extra letters into French-origin words != Welsh.)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Not a big fan, but its ok. I don't much care.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Rreally love the new name, is verry orriginal.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't really like the two "r"s at the beginning...but other than that, it's a cool name.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Not so crazy about the double "r", but it's better than "dragon", that's for sure. :O

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh hey, another name change for me to never remember and continue calling them by their original names, like the Aerie.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

In this news post, I thought the uncapitalization was due to laziness, but now that Luxe is defending it to the death says it's intentional, which highly disappoints me...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Curie looks so pretty It's a nice change (:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Personally, I see no reason to stop capitalizing the pet names. They look better capitalized. I know that 'in the real world' animals go by lowercase names, but 'in the real world' animals rarely inform us that they'd like there name changing either. If you're going to start being realistic all of a sudden, why not replace Felis with cats and Irions with eagles? This seems to me like a classic case of trying to fix something that isn't broken.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

ummmmmm ok, but 2 r's?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Looks like a typo.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's not my favorite, but it's definitely awesome they they're more unique now. :3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Luxe, the part you quoted says "Names belonging to more than one species." This is because there are SEVERAL species of cat, several species of horse, etc. There are several dragon species on Subeta - but they are the Mahar, the Paralix, the ...Rreign, etc. So really, that's not a very good example.

Like I said, obviously this is going to be one of those things that doesn't change, but I wish it was. It's just putting Subeta pets on the back burner again. It looks terribly improper and unfitting for them.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Not to mention if users chose to type it out as "R"reigns... I would seriously doubt you guys would like kill them or something for it xD -shrug- Perhaps the rreins would but..

Absolutely. Users may capitalize it however they prefer. We can't police that.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This is a pretty nice name, in my opinion. Now they just could use a revamp and all would be well.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Do not upset a Rreign, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">If you are going to be lower-casing all the specie names now since they aren't proper nouns, won't that mean you'll have to go through and do the same for all the minions? The Ounce or Velvet isn't the actual name of the minion, but rather the species it is. So following your logic, those would all have to be uncapitalized. I don't see that going over well at all if that change actually occurs.

Perhaps in item descriptions and news posts, sure. This is less of an issue since minions are seldom mentioned by species name when released.

Item titles will always be capitalized. It has not been discussed whether or not this change will be reflected on pet profiles.

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">The point is that if you were going for a Welsh-sounding name and were particularly attached to a double consonant, why didn't you use something that was actually Welsh and/or reasonably cool-sounding? "Reign" plus an extra "r" is tacky, at best.

Again, because we were merely inspired by the double consonants we saw in the Welsh language. We weren't married to being technically Welsh. Had we taken the name directly from Welsh, I imagine the responses to that would have been something to the effect of ''but Wales doesn't exist on Subeta!''

We understand it is impossible to please absolutely everyone. I can assure you that much thought went into this name, and it had Keith's approval before going live.

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">As a general rule, names are with lower case, unless they are part of an official list of names, in which case they have become proper nouns and are capitalized. Names referring to more than one species (e.g., horse or cat) are always with lowercase.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The lack of capitalisation just seems to be there to try and look ~~cool~~; I like the name, but a double are and no caps simply doesn't work to see, it just looks like the word reign has been misspelt.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

pronunced like this i think: ggrrain

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

@ Luxe- Not to mention if users chose to type it out as "R"reigns... I would seriously doubt you guys would like kill them or something for it xD -shrug- Perhaps the rreins would but..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

heh, such a big fuss over a name. I don't know, I quite like it, both the name, the "rr" thing and the capitalization.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Aren't you guys always saying how this isn't Earth and thus can't be tied to Earth rules? Which is why you changed all the holiday names and numerous other details. Well, who's to say on Subeta species names can't be capitalized?

Proper grammar and punctuation. While Subeta isn't Earth, the world of Subeta is still being accessed by text. We can't just make up our own grammar rules.

If we were talking about Subetans, Veta Lakers, or Centroplians, I would absolutely capitalize them, as would be proper. (Mind you, I pulled those demonyms out of my arse and they're in no way official except for Subetan.) While Subeta pets are unlike the pets we know on Earth and they can communicate with one another, there are no societies, cultures, or countries built entirely of any one species.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's so awesome, I wish I had more pet space.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm going to pronounce it ruh-reign and there's nothing you can do to stop me. ;p Thank god it's not Dragon anymore.

As for lowercase vs. upercase; Rreign is easier to find in an sentence/announcement than rreign is. We're just hardwired to look for capitalization. I don't honestly mind either way, just my two cents.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by