Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Tallulah_Ward:

Dude, your point? XD I think the majority of us know that bats aren't evil but that doesn't stop them from looking the part.

P.S. I know it's unrelated but I just wanted to thank the anon who was kind enough to send me a St. Paddy Dillema Plushie! (Cause I have a feeling it was someone from here. XD) Lemme know who ya are so I can give thanks personally. TYVM!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's lovely, and I have no complaints. If that goes through, I'll seriously be contemplating getting one. :0

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Absolute love for the new revamp! I agree that there is a bit of dithering, but it's really not that big of a deal (I had to look hard and squint to see it). Although the back ear does look a bit wonky, I understand the image size restrictions and it's not that bad either.

I completely agree with NoirRaven, that the anime-ish look fits well with Subeta as a whole and that it's not too thin or thick or whatever. This revamp is pretty much perfect!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Actually, I like this revamp. First of all, the pose is much more dynamic than the original. The way that the wars are swayed back and the figure is crouching with the wings half spread gives a feeling that the Lasirus has just landed or is about to take flight. Second of all, I like how the head has been made smaller and more aerodynamic and the facial expression adds a sort of sinister air of mischief to the creature, much better than the over-sized head with that messed up hissing expression on the current design. I also like how the tail and chest floof fall. Not too fuzzy, not to limp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Quote By Nectaris:

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I think the new one looks great, but I would like to see at least one of the previously poled revamps actually realized before more polls are added.

The frequency of polls and pets being finished and updated has little to do with each other so much as when said polled pets are completed--which varies based on artist, what needs to be changed, and so on.
We will actually be updating one of the previously-polled pets very shortly (as in, as soon as I'm given the images).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Funny - people keep saying this isn't up to par style-wise compared to other recent revamps, but I personally prefer this style to most of the recent revamps. I continue to be in the minority.

A few nitpicks, though - the swept-back ears do look a bit odd. I think it's mostly because of that back one and the way it's weirdly pushed down. If you look at the bases of the ears (on top), you can see the back ear base is raised much higher than the foreground one, but it ends up flattening out horizontally, which puts it at an angle that makes the whole head look cramped.

Also, the age-old personality quibble - this Lasirus just doesn't look as psychotic as the old one. It looks annoyed, but not utterly rabid. I loved that about the old one.

I wouldn't mind seeing this revamp go through, but it'd look even better with a few improvements, so I'm not going to vote for it just yet. Good start though, Nestly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sweet, I really like it! The expression, how it looks and everything. Good job to the artist! Waits for revamp

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the new one looks great, but I would like to see at least one of the previously poled revamps actually realized before more polls are added.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the new one looks adorable

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I have to disagree with at Tallulah_Ward, I think this does a good job of remaining personality-neutral while still having the spirit of the old one.

The old Lasirus was a vicious evil little bat, there is no denying that. The new one keeps a evil glint to its eye and facial expressions while still looking like it could be playful and sweet if the owner decided that's what it should be. I think many people would be upset if it lost all if its evilness in the revamp, since that was such a fundamental part of the old Lasirus.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oy, I agree about the dithering, although I do love the pet. I didn't notice it at all until it was mentioned and I looked at the screen from a different angle (yay for flatscreen monitors). It looks more like a jpeg file than a gif. o-O

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

o.O It looks more like a Kangaroo than a Bat.

I think maybe it need a revamp, but this just isn't it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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i do totaly agree with LUXE. still for the other body parts are good!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love it, love it, love it. Those pets have always been on my short list of possible must-haves and I think it just moved up. Great work.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

First off, let me say that overall, I like the revamp. The art quality is good, and it needed a redraw badly. Not quite as much as some other pets, but badly.

Now, on to the constructive criticism:

I love the anatomy and the pose. The little bit with the far ear has been picked over already, and to me, it's really not that distracting. What bothers me is how malicious it looks, with the glare and the smirk. The Lasirus is based off of a bat. Bats aren't evil. I believe I read once that one of the goals behind the pet revamps (in addition to improving and streamlining the artistic quality) was to avoid imposing a personality on the pets. Now, that was said in regards to sickly sweet grins, but doesn't it apply to glares as well? Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that it's no longer screaming at me, but I just wish that the expression were a tiny bit more neutral around the eyes. I'd be nice to be able to create one who wasn't an evil, unpleasant git.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I want one now D; I wanted one before but I was waiting for the revamp :O And, common guys, the ear isnt THAT bad. Honestly you people always have something negative to say. I love the skinny face on the revamp, such nice bone structure. The galactic and regular Lasirus where obviously drawn by a different artist. Unless the artist style changed allot recently. The galactic version doesnt look as good as people are saying [[no offense to the artist]] it doesnt look scary at all to me. And the little cute it has is weird. The revamp Lasirus looks way more sinister than the galactic just by the eyes. The pupils make it look like its staring deep into you and it so does look like it'd rip your face off and then play it off like it was innocent. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> Plus the hunch in its back just adds to the look. But I do think that the fur on its head should be toned down a bit, and maybe giving its eyes a little more of an arch will make it look more evil like the others want. Oh, and the quality isnt that bad, geez.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Karie308: They've always been anime-ish. The previous Lasirus is just crappy anime XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Quote By NoirRaven:

; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">Oh and about the Anime look. Luxe, I don't know if you've noticed but Subeta (and its pets) always had an anime-ish look to it. XD

Of course I've noticed. Do you know who I am?

I also would like to clarify my wording before when I mentioned it was nowhere near release quality. That was directly in reference to the dithering. I would hate for this lasirus to win the poll and be added as-is with the compression issues. That aside, the rest was just my normal nit-picking. As a former art director, sometimes it just slips.

Apologies to those I might have offended with my poor word choice.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like it, for what that's worth. x3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

AWESOME. ;o;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

But that's just it. ChillyKitten; it doesn't look like it's about to go anywhere. It looks like it's been crammed into a fishbowl a few sizes too small for it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

of course i know image size plays a role, i'm not stupid. that's why my line art is a =suggestion= If i thought i could do better than the artists, i'd put in an application. i'm just making positive suggestions for possible improvements. now you have your opinion, i'll have mine, our stances on this have been said lets get out of the way for other view points, shall we?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I agree with the general opinion of the pets getting too anime shaped. : /

But otherwise it's certainly a HUGE improvement! I like. :3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I know this thing is awesome!! The other one didn't look as good! So I like it and i voted for it! TRUE TO SUBETA!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the new version because it has such a lovely wistful look in its eyes. I prefer this to the older version. Congratulations to the artist.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the smaller head and thinner body, but the ear does bother me as well. Perhaps if he was a bit smaller the ear could rest in a more natural position and still fit within the box? I wouldn't mind a meaner facial expression too (I think someone mentioned that) but the one on there now doesn't bother me much.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

DNA: Ah, well I wasn't sure who did it that's why I asked. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

satanael: You're surprised that it's winning because you don't like it? :| Dude, come on. That is such a crap excuse.

Raeven_DarkWings: Did you ever stop to think that IMAGE SIZE plays a key role here? They have to have a pet that fits snugly in 200 x 200 pixels and for that they need to make some sacrifices. In order to fit your version of the ear, they'd have to make the over all pet image smaller so it'll fit in the frame and that won't do. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm sorry, Raven--I didn't do the galactic Lasirus, or any other for that matter. That was drawn by Centurymon.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I personally love the new lasirus. I think it makes sense for the lasirus to be thin because while it isn't a bat, its based on a bat and bats are thin and don't have that chubby face like the galactic.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh.. And for those complaining about the pose, the head tilt.. The body proportion..? Would you rather it be in a dull static pose standing straight up with a doofy grin on it's face, or would you rather have it the way it is now, where it actually looks fluid enough toleap out of the screen and pounce on you?
Anyways. I just noticed now nice and strong the hind legs are. I knew there was something about the little guy that DIDN'T MAKE HIM A BAT, but a species of it's own. The hind legs look as it the Lasirus does a lot of hopping or running aswell as flying, and that long, flowing tail must be great for balance and direction.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh wow, this new one is adorable! I don't think the artist should change anything. Great job, whoever drew this! =D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

it's lack of perspective is exactly what's bothering me. instead of extending out and away from teh body it's crammed into the same plane. the ear looks like it's leaning against a wall, like there's no room for it to extend behind.

this is a really bad line art suggestion cause i do pencil, not mouse, but something more like this..ish

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Uh, I'm kind of surprised the revamp is leading the poll. I don't like it. The head's too small, the position of the ears is weird. The big head/face of the old one was cute and aggressive at once

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I have to agree with NoirRaven, I don't see this pet in being too thin. Its just the right amount of "chubby" to me. It looks like what I would assume a Lasirus in its prime would look like - not too skinny like its not getting enough to eat but not too fat either.

I hope that if the face is tweaked any (I /really don't want it to be though) that they forgo the Galactic version. I really dislike how chubby and bloby it is and do not want to see that repeated on the revamp. The face now is streamlined and cute, while still hinting at the fierceness the old one had. Maybe to bring the fierceness a bit more forward, Nestly could give lift its lip, like its snarling a little. I don't want a pet with the same degree of fierceness that the old one had though, a basic pet should not be any one personality and it would be nigh impossibly to make the previous one a friendly bat. The fierce personality should be brought out in redraws.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

ABOUT TIME. xD

I actually really like this revamp. you kept it very close (if not identical) to the original design; now it's much softer and natural-looking. I don't think there's anything specificly wrong with the image (i'm sure some users would beg to differ, but they need to get a life sometimes. ), I only really notice nice qualities about this one.
Nice job, I actually might get one considering they dont scare me anymore. x3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't like it at all. The Lasirus looks more like the sidekick of some anime kid other than a lasirus. D8 It is not a pokemon, but reminds me of one so badly that I dislike it very, very much.
The wings hardly look like the webbing is attached to the body, and where it is attached, it is just... not where it should be. Bat wings connect to the body, and if you look at the far wing, it doesn't, and makes it more like a bir's wing.
The head is in a strange position. The rest of him is hunched forward, while the head is thrown up and back, making for a painful neck position, if you've ever tried it. The ear itself is strangely positioned, and the head.... is much too small. The inner ear... makes it look like it has three ears all thrown into one. Just like the tail, though the tail is done a bit better.
The fur and head tufft are over-done. The old Lasirus looked sleek and proper, while this one looks like he's trying to be a punk.
And I have to agree that the immage quality is bad. It looks all.. blury on the outlines and it looks like the artist had a hard time cramping it all into the box and had to break one of the wings and make it smaller and mess up on the ear to make it fit.
So, all in all, the only thing I DO like is how you can see the body through the membrane of the wing, but that's not enough to make me want to vote 'yes' for the new one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Raeven_DarkWings: It's called "perspective." Look it up.

As for those comparing the revamp to the Galactic version. (That one was done by DNA was it not?...) Not to be rude but it [the galactic] looks too fat to fly. This new revamp looks the part and to enlarge its head by any means will screw up the anatomy. Besides, special colors can always be revamped to fit the new look.

Oh and about the Anime look. Luxe, I don't know if you've noticed but Subeta (and its pets) always had an anime-ish look to it. XD

reads more comments, shaking her head. I really don't understand why you people are nitpicking about how thin it is... Do you really want a bat with horrid proportions, a huge (Stewy size) head and wings so small they wouldn't lift a humming bird? :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The proposed revamp looks good - cuter than before, but still a little evil as well. I like the new proportions - the head on the old/current version looks a bit large, so it's nice to see that changed. Just one thing about the new one particularly bothers me, though - while the wing membrane looks much better translucent, something gives it a sort of dotted effect, and I can see the same thing in some of the darker areas of the fur as well. Maybe the image compression quality needs to be adjusted a little? I also echo the sentiments of those who feel that the back ear looks a little awkward.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh I love the rewamp! 8D
Lots of lovely details! 8D

I haven' read if someone has mentioned it already, I don't mean to repeat it if it's said ^^;
But the left ear is a bit wonky. It looks like he's trying to listen against a wall on it's left side. If I am to suggest anything, I would suggest to make it look more that it sticks out on the other side, and push the line where the ear meets the head a bit up. Since the head is tilting, it's to low to be symmetrical to the right side where it looks perfect. ^^;

But I really love it's design! 8D Kudos to the artist! x3
no hesitation which I prefer!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This is the closest I've ever seen a revamp come to perfection. I love everything about it. The anatomy flows together and looks like an animal that could really exist. Don't change a thing, you have it right on the first go.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the body style, wise should be a bit 'heftier' like the galactic version, that one's SO cute-yet- you know it could bite your face off?

I do like the transparent wig effect but I think the fingers/wing inner arms are to skinny.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

So much better. Face is fine, dun change it.
Perfecto.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't think it's consistent with the other recent pet revamps as far as quality goes. It's not really in the same style, and the shading seems too dark. It's also dithered on the wings for sure.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the new version the old one looked kind of ugly this one looks much better.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh, and what's up with the stripes on the legs of the Lasiruses lately?
I noticed it on the galactic.
Were they maybe a mistake and this is to cover it up? Haha- I'm joking. I just don't like the stripes all that much. x;

Alright, I'll shut my mouth. I just don't see a need to fix something that isn't broken. I seriously adore the current Lasirus, and would prefer it unchanged.

Oh, and I really enjoy the fact that the current Lasirus is hunched over. Is there any way you could incorporate that into your redraw? It really adds to the evil look.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I honestly love this new look, makes me want to get one... people are wanting more of an evilish look... why not make more of an evil pose with other colours like what was done with the bloodred mortiking?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I realize the Lasirus isn't a bat per say, but most bats have very narrow faces, and when their wings aren't outstretched they don't always seem large enough to support them in flight.
-Example-
I'm glad the revamp didn't look much like Galactic, personally, since that one's face is too round and seems more pig-like. ^^;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Aww, what a cutie!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'd only like to say that the positioning of the back ear bothers me. & bring back the wide-faced chubby cheeks. But besides that, I consider the revamp worthwhile.

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