Getting an infrequent error (mostly on wizard quests) reading "No query results for [AppModelsUserShopItem].

Would post a screenshot but they don't seem to be working right now. The issue seems to be related to the quest showing an item as only being in user shops when it's actually available in NPC shops as well - the workaround was buying the items manually on the original site and then selecting to use the ones in my inventory.

Update to above: Just had the same issue and did the manual workaround, then got no rewards for finishing the quest despite having 25~ish minutes left on the timer.

I was confused about the feedback that the bar was too big, its fine for me, and then i remembered I play with the site zoomed out to 70% because otherwise there's so much padding and the fonts are so huge I feel like I'm trapped in the void of cell padding or my grandma's "readable" phone that shows one word per line when she reads text. LOL

So while that is a workable solution for me (and seriously yall should try it if you can. it's control + zoom wheel in firefox, and if you aren't using firefox you're beyond help at this point idk lol) I do then have the feedback that kumos is over-padded with way too much deadspace between oversized elements and too large of font. which is probably contributing to the 'too much scrolling' issues people are having?

Just reporting I got the same error as wraith but manually buying and submitting from inventory gave me the rewards

I like that these feel more like actual quests than the one-click-and-you're-done format. I like the quest bar idea in general and especially the idea that it would stay at the top of the page wherever you navigate around the site so that you don't forget you're on a quest.

But this setup is really... clunky. Now there's too much clicking all around and refreshing. Why do I have to turn in each item individually? Why can't I just have them all in my inventory and click a button to finish the quest like they've always been? Between the extra clicking to turn in each item individually and the lag (it's better than it was earlier - thank you for working on it! - but it's still pretty laggy), this is really tedious. Because of the lag, the buttons often feel (and maybe actually are) unresponsive. On mobile (Android, Chrome) I was having a hard time getting my clicks to register on the buttons, especially the ones for turning in each item. This doesn't seem to be a problem for me on desktop but I'm still not always sure my button presses are registering because of the lag. I kinda just get impatient and mash the button or refresh the page if it's taking a while.

The confetti is cute and I don't mind it. I could take it or leave it but if it doesn't contribute to lag I like it. Maybe just one burst on completion of the quest though instead of for each item? Or maybe after completing all the quests for a particular NPC for the day? In any case, I'd like to see turning in each item individually go away as I find it to be really unnecessary extra clicking that doesn't contribute to the sense that I'm questing the way that having to go to the shop search page to buy things does.

After a quest is completed, there should be a button to start a new quest. The reward page feels like a dead end.

Errr... Not a big fan of the multi-clicking quests that require you to click a lot. Especially in Kumos that every steps you make requires a lots of loading...:(

Edit: And the Kumos site crashed again while I tried to do quests. lol it said 503 Service Unavailable on the crash page.

I agree, turning in each item individually and then another click to finish the quest is too much pointless clicking. Confetti is nice (so I suspect after a while one will get used to it and hardly notice it anymore), but once for the completion of the quest would be enough. Or even only after you completed the last of the quests for each NPC? And it's annoying to have to go back from the reward page to start a new quest. Other than that, I lke the quest bar, too.

Just my experiences as someone who is nearly 76 with arthritis in the neck so I'm always in discomfort and the condition affects my co-ordination.

I tried the buy from Subeta shop option when it came up and was taken to a page showing all the items in stock so I'd have to hunt through them for the one I want. I don't mind doing this when restocking but it's awful having to do this for a quest. In the end I just clicked on the picture to select the Search option because this is so much easier - the legacy search shows results just for the item you are looking for - stock in Subeta shop if there are any, stock in my own shops if there are any and stock in other player shops. After doing this I still had to select the inventory option before turning the items in.

Pete asking for 4 items is a pain because it's bad enough doing Maleria quests if she asks for 3 items which are available in Subeta shops because there's the 5 second wait in between buying items from Subeta shops.

PS I'm not sure what the point is with the buy from user shop option. When I tried it the option didn't buy the item to put in my inventory. I still had to click on the picture for the ordinary shop search option

When there's an item in my own store and I click the 'buy from user shops' option, I'm getting an error... I realised I had one quest item sitting in my shop. Moved it to my inventory and selected 'use from inventory' instead which fixed it; it did happen a second time, but I removed the item from my shop and then used the 'buy from user shops' option on the quest, which also worked

screenshot here

Are the rewards for new quests currently higher than they should be? They've all been unexpectedly generous tonight - I've been playing in the background while playing Hellcard so hadn't thought about it until now.

Your Rewards 22,491 sP total Base reward: 9,941 sP +99 sP from reputation bonus

Firstly, thank you Keith for all the you do/are doing/have done to keep Subeta such a fun place to be, and I appreciate everything you are trying to do to. Unfortunately you will never be able please everyone all of the time, but still you try ❤️

Personally, while I have loved all the benefits of the old quests, especially with a gold account, I do get a little bored and end up going for days without doing any. So I have very much enjoyed the new kumos quests, fewer to do, super quick couple of clicks and job done. I also love the idea of reputation levels and am excited for all the future possibilities that come with that.

I tried the currency.kumos quests last night, but the lag was so bad I didn’t stay for long and went back to kumos. I can see though that it will be a solution for those players who prefer to do a proper shop search. I will give it another try with the next reset. In general I like the more condensed opening quest page; however I agree with others that the quest bar at the top of the individual quest page the item search was a bit vertically squished for me (I was using Chrome on my iPad).

One thing I have noticed that I don’t think has been mentioned yet, with the new quest shops, for items that come up after the “load more” you can’t click on them to bring up the item page.

I have been testing the quests and auctions for a while now and although I don’t normally like change I do find myself warming to the new kumos site and am actually preferring it to the legacy. I think we can all be nostalgic but we need to embrace change and venture forward and I am very much looking forward to what’s next.

I did my quests today on desktop (safari) for a change.

I missed the post about using the currency.kumos site until after I'd completed them.

I noticed far fewer issues than in previous days. My only note is that the kumos site all seems very 'big'. The quest button is big, the fonts are big... I'm having to scroll a lot. I suppose I'm echoing what said - I normally zoom the site out, but this doesn't seem to work / needs far more zoom on kumos.

Also, having the "do another quest" and "start quest" buttons on opposite sides is a bit annoying.

edit: I just had to go back to real subeta to edit this... nothing showed up on Kumos for me, not the image nor the code. here is the image hosted externally...

wtaf XD

I edited the above post on the regular site, but that's not showing up here. I have no idea why Kumos would write to the old forums but not the other way around? Anyway, if you need the screenshot and aren't seeing it, check that post on subeta.net ...

What device did you say you were on? Is that a tablet?

Just tried to open my bookmarks - Quest page and wishlist auction - got the usual Melman error, the currency kumos also threw an error:

Oops! An Error Occurred The server returned a "500 Internal Server Error". Something is broken. Please let us know what you were doing when this error occurred. We will fix it as soon as possible. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

I refreshed a few time, the page opened and without me doing anything after a little while put the error on top of the page - I can still see the contents of the page at the sides.

This is, what happened to me yesterday, while questing. But maybe you were working on the site then and now.

And weirdly enough the error continuously alternates between the blank white page with info and Melman. (I'm watching it, as I type in a different window)

It goes away, whenever I refresh, but then returns again after a while. Is the site down right now?

I'm getting the same thing as you. "Oops! Something went wrong" and the Log In button. It won't let me log in.

But I'm glad, I'm not the only one, lol.

I can't actually access kumos.net at all now - I get a page telling me I'm logged out but the log in button just takes me to the same error but on the news page XD