Brainstorming (and you've likely already thought of this) but how large is your Gifts vault category? And how many available galleries could you potentially utilize to move the gifts out of vault into so that legacy stuff going to your vault doesn't interact?

And then again depending on your legacy shops, maybe there's enough space to swap (e.g. extra gallery for legacy shop stuff to dump into from the vault category, and then gift items can go back to vault and be prviate again)?

Oh, wow, thank you!

THANK YOU!!!!

I have been qs-ing multiple armoury items forever and way bogged it down, so I am sure you can qs multiple stacks.

Thanks, I will do that..

This is going to destabilise the prices on a lot of old items.

Do you have any plans in place to help them recover?

I've gone ahead and done added this functionality to the vault, for you and anyone else who would like it. You can now find vault categories in the "move to destination" dropdown at the bottom of the page, listed after your shops and galleries, so you can bulk recategorize items in your vault.Omg, thank you! Thank you very much, that is gonna make things soooo much easier! :D

For the cherry on top, would it be possible to have that as two separate menus-and-buttons? One for "move (1-50) to shops/galleries" and one for "categorise within Vault"?

I have 30 categories, so what used to be a tiny little dropdown menu is now an unwieldy beast. It's gonna be all too easy to get in a muddle.

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Maybe even separate them as "Move out of Vault" and "Sort within Vault"?

I've been thinking about this.

The retirement plan is to merge two repositories which (for me, but I bet for other people) served different functions. A gallery was where I kept items that I wanted to keep for myself, but the vault was where I stored things that I wanted to use later -- items the recycle beast called for, extra potions for the armory, unredeemed GA medals, and the like.

Mixing the two means losing that separation of function. I know this is a big ask -- but can we find a way to avoid losing that separation? I'm envisioning a protected category within the vault: items in the protected category can't be emptied. If you've got three of the same item in a protected category, you can remove up to two of them, but you can't remove the last item from the protected category just by clicking on the 'x' button in the vault or the 'remove one' link from the item page.

If that were possible, my vault could contain a stack of items and still retain the functionality of keeping one of those items on reserve for myself.

OMG this would so helpful - in galleries too! Always so annoyed when the recycle beast asks for something and I have a huge stack. But I can't use the remove all from vault functionality because I want to keep 1.

So I am long done and over the legacy shop thing.... but all this chatter of vaults and categories has rekindled something that's driven me insane for, ever.

Would it be possible to get some item type queries in the vault? Like we have in galleries?

I mostly use my vault for books/TC potential/less clicks to dump from inventory to vault than shop... and boy would organization ve way easier if I cull/sort by item use instead of relying on my memory to tell me if that's a thing or a toy or a minion or a book or or or.

Supporting 's suggestion 500%.

I'd also like to be able to sort by rarity rather than just specifying a range.

This is hardcore. And my galleries are ruined, because gallery items have been in various other places as well and now just stack in the other category.

(sorry, I know you are busy with the wardrobe issue, but we're nearing April fast) Since the obstacles have not been resolved, site was still lagging, throwing errors over hours every day and eating items, work on shops like so many other areas on site (event tasks!!!!) couldn't be performed as planned. I hope it gets postponed like event challengers etc. should have, I DID cry out that the site wouldnn't let us finish!

Are we getting extra time? WHEN were you planning on abolishing the legacy shops? April 1st, mid April...?

Thank you, for your answer! Thank you for all the hard work around the site! Stay safe!

I am worried that there isn't any data backups to our legacy shops and we will lose items when they will be automatically moved to our vaults.

Please tell me I have no need to worry.

: If you've been around long enough to have legacy shops, then you remember that one of the reasons that the Luminaire Tree Glitch of 2015 took so long to resolve was that the site lacked a recent backup -- again, during a major event! -- and staff had to rebuild the tree information from going through the logs. Here we are again, finding out that the site still doesn't have effective recent backups. That's like, Database Management 101.

So, you have no need to worry. :/

Database Management 102, by the way is: Lists are easy to maintain. And when a site that has this many different item-storing mechanisms (inventory, vault, shops, trades, wardrobe, collections, minion zoo, sticker album, pet treasure chests) complains that this item-storing mechanism is just too old to maintain is full of shit. They could write a brand new tool to remove items from the list, but can't figure out brand new tools to maintain the list like they just did (eh) with the wardrobe? Give me a break.

Screwing users of legacy galleries isn't a technological decision; it's a business decision.

Thank you for the link to move items. I had started moving items into my new shops, but then started having problems getting into my legacy shop at all. Looks like everything moved and shop is closed.

So I'd like to ask again some things that were asked in the news post in case they don't get noticed there, and also for those looking for more information that might come here.

'I don't remember if this was ever answered, but...

How will this affect our achievements 'Making a living' and 'Shop Till Saver'?

Because my old shop has still made twice as much as my newer one, and I don't want to lose how far I've gotten in Achievements.' from myself

'So...what's going to happen to the legacy shops of users that aren't on the site anymore? Do the items just disappear?' from

'Also can we please get the promised link to the Move-to-Vault tool put somewhere official? Having to go back to the forum post to find it is awkward. If it's on the Legacy Shops page that hasn't loaded for me since before the original announcement.' from (Myself? I'll probably just start moving my gallery items in handfulls from there..)

gave us the link, but it would still be nice to be able to find that page a little easier. https://subeta.net/legacy_shops_migrate.php

If some of these could be answered in the 'two-week heads up' that would be nice. (...not trying to be snarky, it just really would be nice to know..) :) And thank you again for all your hard work lately. Stay safe!

I thought our gallery shops were different from a legacy shop,this is just a collection not for sale. While doing a quest I got the option to use the item from this collection. Are they the same and will the vault be where we keep our collections?