What opponent do you actually use comet flash against?

also, what does it actually do? I don't see its scaling stats listed in any guides

At 2500 Defense if it is blocking 30 icons, it is mitigating 375 damage, compared to a healer at 2500 HP healing for 250HP. If you are training even (which you shouldn't), and your opponent deals at least that much damage EVERY turn, then it is a worthwhile weapon. And at 4445 even stats it becomes 100% worthless when you would always heal more than you would block. Your next best alternative weapon would need to literally block 0 icons that the opponent does.

If you train uneven, it obsoletes itself even faster.

If you have anything better, it obsoletes itself faster. Even PBB only blocking like 12 icons (basically any opponent that deals 3 icon types) will outclass the comet every time

It blocks 30 dark, deals 18 phys/25 light and has a 4% heal. It is the only affordable dark blocker that has some heal on it that I've found. I used to use it to beat malerias familiar, saggi and crawbeast before I got ME. Another alternative is to mod PBB with dark defense baguettes or I guess the new dark defense crystals now. I have done that in the past as well but I found I needed to use a couple of the mod slots for parched so it still wouldn't block as much as comet flash.

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So my first pet I trained evenly but my second pet is not so he won't be able to make use of weapons like the flail or comet flash. However, he won't even need to use many of these budget weapons because I now already have better replacements.

And yes there always is that threshold where you will out stat your opponent and it doesn't matter what weapons you use because you will out heal the damage your opponent deals. That takes a long time to get to though and I think only holds true if you are doing a health build.

everyone!

BQ, Terrseo, King Chelon, Susie done. :)

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Not as bad as I thought it would be. 9 more to go x.x

I just redid the math looking specifically at the 3 challengers you listed and compared the total mitigation of Comet Flash, MCab, and PBB.

First of all, I gave Comet flash the absolute best case scenario: Opponent uses dark icons every single round (which Saggi would not be a good challenger to use comet flash against, he is too random in his use of dark icons.)

Then I made the following assumption for MCab and PBB: MCab will always get 10% heal and 7 icons of dark defense, and 4 of 3 other icons (total of 19 icons), which is more or less true for Crawbeast and MF. PBB will always get 9% heal, and 3 5 icon defenses (which realistically its blessing can have 100% uptime, and if anything i'm probably shorting it a few icon types here) for 23 icons defense total

For a 2500/2500/2500/2500 pet here are the total mitigation numbers: CF 475 PBB 525 MCAB 487

For a 3500/2500/2500/2500 pet: CF 515 PBB 615 MCAB 587

I am pretty confidant when I say that there is literally no opponent that comet flash is currently better than PBB + MCab against.

You don't need to have a dedicated "Dark blocker" or a dedicated blocker of any sort at every step of the game if it isn't better than the default weapons.

To make up for crappy healing on a weapon, you need at least 40 reliable icons per turn for it to be worthwhile, and then you need ideal circumstances like the challengers from the same year as slaglord, that use at least 1 icon type every single turn, which 80%+ of the challengers do not do that at all.

That's so weird, I could have sworn Comet Flash had better stats than that... but maybe I was thinking of Cursed Liquid Fire Torch.

Yeah don't get me wrong, PBB is infinitely better than comet flash. I was thinking in the scenario of using them together for enemies that do a lot of dark. Mcab is another one of those weapons that I did not get until later on so I am not as familiar with it. I don't doubt there are a ton of weapons I overlook because they were either too expensive at the time or blew past the need for them.

The calculations I have are dependent on the enemy's weapons, which will vary in damage and icon spread. If I look at maleria's familiar, her weapons do a variety of icons but almost all of them are biased to dark icons. Say she uses weapons more biased to dark like her hold and kick and tooth and claw weapons on a turn. Assuming 2500 even stats, If I were to use comet flash and PBB to defend (ignoring scrolls to keep things simple), then I can defend against more damage than mcab+ PBB. Even with the higher heal of mcab, I would still take more damage. Higher health will make the difference, then mcab is slightly better because of the 10% heal. If she uses items with more spread like the cursed arm bangle collar and surprisingly high pounce, then mcab + PBB is better.

I agree that you don't need dedicated blockers early in the game, but it's better to have weapons that have a bigger block on a few icons rather than a weapon that blocks a little of all icons if your opponent has a majority of weapons that are biased towards one or two icon types.

I remember being told to get Comet Flash to help with Maleria's Familiar. It was kind of lackluster, and even my terrible budget weapons were better at getting me through the fight. But I figured I was just doing it wrong or it was intended for a pet with a proper build. When I got PBB things really improved.

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I finally snapped. At least once a week I get Prodigy, skip that quest, and get Prodigy again. It's standing between me and my goal of 11 million exp. Screw you, deathball.

Thats the exact scenario I just did the math on, It's close, but MCAB and PBB will always out defend Comet flash (and do more damage).

This was already corrected for in the calculations. I assumed that you would always get the max amount of defense out of comet flash, and the spread icons of MCAB/PBB make sure that no matter what weapons the opponent uses you get pretty consistent numbers out of them.

If comet flash defended 40 dark, we would be having a different conversastion, but at only 30 icons, comet flash does not currently have a scenario where it is better than MCAB and PBB (which at 2500+/2500/2500/2500 they are definately going to have MCAB, and will probably have PBB)

Aside from the site not working and the incredible lag that has twice prevented me from finishing quests in the past week, how have your battles been going since the reset?

I have been pretty frustrated with the site lately. I didn't finish BQs one day this past week(first time that has happened in about 2 years, when I was in Peru with very shaky wi-fi) because the site was down for a while, I wandered off and forgot to come back. I did remember at about 11:45 but there was too much lag(imagine that!) to get them done in 15 minutes :(

Since the reset, I got my second pet, Asher Basher, through all but 3 battles on roid rage RB. No need to battle with Demigod since he is capped and a lot of the good loot is only given once in achs. I'll eventually get him to 5 wins on all opponents but I have 8 other t13 pets to battle with first.
I've been BQing with my 11th pet, trying to get him to t13 so I plan to get that pet to 10 wins on everybody he can defeat next. Fall is always such a busy time that I rarely have time to do much besides BQs on here, but I finished finals on Friday so I will have some time to play over the next couple weeks!

How is everything going with you?

Like you, I have been frustrated with the incredible unending lag. I try to do extra battles daily when the site is working well enough. I have not yet finished battles for any pet or any given challenger, but I hope to change that once the new year begins. I'll take a more organized approach then. For now, I am simply trying to squeeze in extra whatever I can battles, whenever I can. I am hoping this new year brings a faster Subeta... holds breath

you're gonna turn blue!!! I think I finished November's tbt opponents with about an hour to spare. I'm trying to do better this month, which should be easy since they are all 3 wimpy.

SHOULD be easier... Wanna make a bet? ;)

I should play around with mcab. My second pet is a T10 now with an uneven build and will probably benefit from it. I remember they used to go for a lot more and I always used to battle on a budget. Honestly, all of the mediocre weapons need a buff. There's going to come a point in time where they can only get you so far and you're relying on high defense

LOL Well, the opponents aren't a challenge, just dealing with the site! :P

I have seriously been debating about getting another pet -- a sun terracoon and naming it Error 504. I would fill its TC with sqls.

You have to do it now before somebody steals your idea!

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The Sun Terracoon Owner: bonita

Born: December 17th, 2017

I love the minion too!

Error 504 (Sun Terracoon)

Minion: Bad Gateway the Brokd

Level: 1 Health: 10 / 10 Strength: 10 Defense: 10 Speed: 10 Intelligence: 1 (No More Sqls)

Error 504's Treasure Chest: 3 out of 3 Treasure Chest slots are filled

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