- Easy for you with your T13 to say, but if you were a T1, and the item you needed was a OPB weapon that didn't do any damage (like bronze quill or something of the like), and you can only do 8 damage in a turn using the best offensive weapon you have, you would be SOL.

impossible opponents aren't meant for t1s anyway, plus they couldn't equip a shinwas temple shard.

At this point I'm just waiting for the next user to beat him so that I can try out the amassed amount of junk I have in my armory. There's only so many bad weapons I can take ;~;

- Haha, this is true. But the first pet to beat it was a T1, so don't discourage the rest of them! And there are other OPB t1 weapons that don't do damage (like the bronze quill I just mentioned :P)

- I know what you mean! And I just did a massive purge of my armoury not too long ago.

if you're using opb weapons that don't do damage, you can pair them up with an infinite use weapon or anything that does damage and most pets can probably muster 10 damage

- Yeah, I suppose. Plus, it doesn't take that much to get a pet with 10 strength to 20 strength and then it could probably do enough damage.

Unless the answer is that the answer keeps changing? Maybe at one time this weapon works because it had the word battle in it, but at another time this new weapon worked because it had the word red in it

battling isn't supposed to be for untrained pets anyway.

which ends up being the same thing as random, doesn't it?

- Untrained pets can still beat some easy challengers though. Stop trying to make it so that I have to test more weapons! OTL

Nods Yep. Any new developments ?

they can, but there aren't other pets designed so if they're too weak, they can still beat them :P limited data so far so it's hard to exclude anything. I wouldn't want you to miss the item just because it's opb and it may or may not be included xD

not as far as I know! no one else has won that I have seen yet. frustrating challenger.

If you can nail it down to at this hour I need a weapon that does blank, that's a pattern, not random. It could explain why the weapons work only some of the time?

- Fair enough. Alright, I've gathered a decent amount of weapons now, and pulled a bunch out of my useless gallery too, with 14 pets, I'm hoping that I can find one that will do the trick.

if it even follows a pattern yeah, that's possible :)

good luck! :) hope you can find it right away

Oh boy, how uh fun ? I'mma do the thing and ping.

So, as of right now the working theory is it's any restockable item, randomly different for each user, and changes periodically. Is there anything you could fill us in on to help out some ?

yeah a bit of insight would really help, though who knows if we'll get a response. I kinda think there won't ever be a decent way to figure it out, it's just something people will need to sit and try a bajillion times until they give up out of frustration or get lucky.

- unrelated to the Troll (really) but there's a bit of code that needs fixing in the text of the Terrier all seeing crystal ball:

The close tag is at the opening of the colour code :P

The secret truth behind the troll revealed, they just want us to test as many weapons as possible to find out if any of them have broken code.

I just can't wrap my brain around them thinking that is a good idea. If it's set items and not all items, and it's sorta randomized... Alright, maybe. But any for the 600+ items and that random ? It'd be time consuming and promoting enough hoarding for a limited group of items as is.

I can't either! but they wanted to give us a challenge that has nothing to do with training your pets or actual battling, so I think something that's almost completely random fits that challenge perfectly.

There's challenging and there's overkill.