Have you checked out Sonatine's tutorial You went to lineart without sketching, so it's probably best to start over (since it's easier to do it right the first time than fix everything)

yeah I followed it, but when I went to draw the lines inside the hair, it always looked stiff and wrong T-T

so I skipped it.

Again I'm going to reiterate what hockey said. It would be best to start over on it and in the sketching stage (which is a necessity) you need to work on it with strands or smaller pieces until it doesnt look stiff and wrong.

Skipping the step isn't really optional and the fact that it looked stiff and wrong most likely means the overall shape is off and thus doesn't have natural looking sub-parts.

I think you need more practice sketching and getting hair shape down before you consider lining and shading

would you suggest using a thinner line width? I've been using 2 pix width.

Line width matters very little when you're practicing sketching. Line width matters moreso when you move to actual lining, which should wait until you've practiced sketching more.

this look better at all?

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- I saw your ponytail sketch, I just wasn't able to get around to comment on it until now. From what I remember, the shape of the bangs was looking pretty good so far. As far as the ponytail, there are a ton of options you can try with it. Something like this would be cute, or maybe something like this? You could do a totally straight ponytail too, but photo references are honestly going to be your best friend right now. Studying those and figuring out how hair moves and sits on the head is going to give you a really good sketch base to work from.

Also, don't be afraid to trace some photo references for practice just to see what some hairstyles look like just in line form. Obviously don't sell them or use them for anything other than practice, but sometimes it's easier to understand what something that doesn't normally have an outline would look like if it were to have one just by tracing over a photo.

thanks for the photos :D

How about the shading on the bun that I'm working on? I'm confused about what to do with the light source side....

- It's looking a little too smudged/soft at the moment. It might help to look at some of the recently accepted CW wigs to get a better idea of what a wig should look like shaded. I'd suggest trying to find one kind of similar to the idea you have going, screenshotting it, and zooming in on it in SAI. That'll help to figure out how other artists get those nice little strands in there and make it look like hair.

I've been using for my reference, but it's just not going well....:/

Once again I'd say shading is not your biggest problem. The sketch/lines still need work

so I'm STILL not getting anywhere....

- Sometimes looking at different recolors of the same wig will be more helpful. It's harder to see the layers of color in that recolors as opposed to Much easier to see where the highlights are versus the darker shading, so hopefully that helps! Other than that, practice and looking up tutorials and lots of trial and error will help you learn the light source and figuring out that whole cell shading bit :) Anywho, bedtime for me! Good luck!

goodnight girl :)

thanks for the advice

That might be because you keep trying to finish cws and skipping all the way to the final stage before fine tuning the initial phases. The initial phases are super important. You really gotta get sketching hair down before any of the later stages. What's the rush?

In that case, I'm pretty sure Blazhy had to fix a lot on our collab since I suck at lineart. I'll let her have all the profits.

Please do not take this as a personal attack or get upset and discouraged. Collabs and the logistics of that are up to the two of you. I'm merely saying that you seem super eager to get a CW on the site but I think it's better to really iron out the fundamentals. Get the shaping and sketching of the hair down really well, then work on coloring. Coloring and shading is much easier if you get really good sketches!

Notice on your current bun how completely circular the hair is around the head. Humans dont have round heads but more importantly, when you pull your hair up, unless you grease it and pull tight it will be slightly bumpy around the head. Like in this image you see how there are parts at different levels. Currently the bangs dont have a source which is problematic for a bun because bangs are hair that comes forward over your face whereas bulk hair should be pulled back away from the face. Also on the left side the long strands that are loose from the bun are there but the hair to the left of that should be being pulled back but it's not. Also the middle chunk of bangs is much too large of a chunk which makes it look off.

So like I say practice doing sketching more! Eventually you get the hang of hair

ack sorry I posted that. I just had a panic attack which causes me to say stuff like that DX

As I posted before to celestial, I was using the as a reference, and maybe this is due to weird perception, but it looked pretty round to me. Perhaps I was not taking the ribbon into account though....

Thanks for the pic and advice :)

So that wig doesn't have pieces that stick out much on the side but it's not circular! So if you look at the right side you'll notice that the top and the bottom bulge out in their respective directions while the side is relatively flat? It may be curved but those are three different curves with smoothed discontinuities where the hair would switch from being pulled up and back (bottom of head), down and back (top of head), to the side and back (side of head)

It's just subtle! aslo does it subtly. Also if you look on the right side around level with the bottom of the bangs that is a good example of how pulled back hair works on the side, granted the height/direction the side curves up to depends on where the bun part is situated.

Your CW reference is rounded, but not round. Not sure if that makes sense...but it does to me? xD

Anyways, just remember your light source always comes from the top left. That should help with a basis in where to shade and highlight, and it actually should be easier to decide which strands/part of the hair should be shaded because of the angle the HA stands at.

I would take into account what said about the bumps that naturally appear when pulling the hair back. That should be the biggest factor in helping you where to shade (where the bumps convex) and highlight (where the bumps concave).