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Apr 23, 2015 10 years ago Official
Keith
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Eradication

Whoops, I have that thread booked marked and totally just thought to check it. Thanks for the reminder!

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Apr 23, 2015 10 years ago
Flying Ace
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We&;re starting to increase the price of the items that we put in the shops to get some of the bonus QP out of the system (and slowly lowering the percentage chance of getting them per quest) but for people with 1,000+ they&;re so far outside of the average that we just can&;t base things around it.

I've just done 7 Cursed Quests and got 7 quest points. It looks like the percentage chance has been upped here instead of lowered.

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Apr 23, 2015 10 years ago
Wolf_Spirit
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We&;re starting to increase the price of the items that we put in the shops to get some of the bonus QP out of the system (and slowly lowering the percentage chance of getting them per quest) but for people with 1,000+ they&;re so far outside of the average that we just can&;t base things around it.

...and yet there's talk about adding more expensive items to the quest shops. If the amount of points you get pet 15 quests get diminished much more, it'll be impossible for people to get items in there. Not everyone has time to do 150 quests daily.

What about the Pirate section of the Omen Islands plot...those items? And items from the Reading Drive and RS wars and EpiCon and if any items that might've come from that SAI event?

That seems like a useless "land" on the map anyway XD

I'd love to see the map change and expand to include more new lands. New places = new items and new activities. New items and activities = more sP sinks. Maybe even turn the map into a globe? I dunno, but I do think that new places would be excellent!

I just didn't like the idea for the fact that it could lose money for the site, but 's idea of possibly allowing users to buy pet slots every now and again with sP might also be a thought. There could be a chance to maybe have more pet slots bought with CSC come up too.

What I would really like to see is redeemable CS Boutique items! The whole set's pieces, not just the wigs. That way, if you love a style but not the colours, you can redeem them and colour them in whatever way you want, just like hairstyles. Each time you change athe colours of a piece you'd would be charged 10k.

Maybe there can even be gradient colours available for the clothes and trim colours and if there are patterns on the items, the patterns could change colours! It'd give so much more diversity to the CS Boutique items!

You can still have the option to use the CS Boutique items as-is, too, but it might give the feeling of being a clothing creator in each person's own rights if this happened...especially those of us who can't draw CWs can feel like artists in a way...just working with a template and colouring in the blank spots (just like you can do with colouring books in RL :P )

Apr 23, 2015 10 years ago
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Sucre

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...and yet there&;s talk about adding more expensive items to the quest shops. If the amount of points you get pet 15 quests get diminished much more, it&;ll be impossible for people to get items in there. Not everyone has time to do 150 quests daily.
Very few items have ever retired from the quest shops, only seasonal ones that were announced as seasonal at their release. So just because you can't get enough quest points for new items today doesn't make it a problem that quest points are becoming rarer.

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I just didn&;t like the idea for the fact that it could lose money for the site, but Paddy &;s idea of possibly allowing users to buy pet slots every now and again with sP might also be a thought.
Maybe like one, as part of a special event. Not a regular occuring thing. Maybe let it not count towards your CSC slots or something to keep it special (priced above the conversion rate for 2k CSC would be nice, in that case the fact that it doesn't really "count" is the motivation to buy it rather than a CSC slot)

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Mike
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Piety

Quote by Wolf_Spirit

...and yet there&;s talk about adding more expensive items to the quest shops. If the amount of points you get pet 15 quests get diminished much more, it&;ll be impossible for people to get items in there. Not everyone has time to do 150 quests daily.

Quite frankly, people who don't have the time to do all their daily quests on subeta should not be able to reap the same rewards as people who can and vice versa, people who can, shouldn't have the rewards set at a pace such that they're worthless just so people who can't, can get them.

If anything the rate should be significantly reduced to encourage people more to buy off of other players. Having people actually buying and selling things to one another is much healthier for the economy...

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Wolf_Spirit
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Precious Angel

it's a little thing called real life. Punishing people who need to take care of things there (work, other responsibilities) isn't right.

And encouraging players to buy from others is worse just because of deliberate inflation

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Mike
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Piety

That's not punishing people for having a real life. Everyone has a real life. It's rewarding people for actually playing the game, which seems sort of essential to get more people to play the game more often, which should probably be a goal of any game.

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Mike is right.

Subeta is a game. If you don't have the time to play this game, well, why should you get as much things as people who do have time to play the game.

I have a real life. I work every weekday, and yet, it's not lack of time who limits my subeta time. It's lack of interest. People are making jokes about me and my lifelike doll obsession, but it's true that when new lifelike dolls are added, I actually do my quests and take part in the site life more. Now, there is an event going on and I have close to ZERO INTEREST in it, even if I need half of the items from Esther's shop.

If there was more emphasis and importance put on activities like questing and restocking, yeah, probably I'd be here more. Remember the idea of group challenges? This would seriously boost both site activity and site morale and would also really help the economy.

But yeah. I want more to do with SP, as there is already plenty to do with CSC. We don't need more CSC features. We absolutely don't need more. I want more to do with SP because it's with the worth of SP that we can see if the game is viable or not.

You don't need to play the site to have CSC. You just have to dingding into your Paypal.

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
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But yeah. I want more to do with SP, as there is already plenty to do with CSC. We don&;t need more CSC features. We absolutely don&;t need more. I want more to do with SP because it&;s with the worth of SP that we can see if the game is viable or not.</p>
<p>You don&;t need to play the site to have CSC. You just have to dingding into your Paypal.

Or steal your parents credit cards to buy lots of CSC. Either way, 100% agreed on the idea of more sPs options.

I still want an sPs option for the custom overlay feature, or for changing pet names. If 10mil can be charged for a hairstyle retired from the Councilors Cruise, why not allow it for some of the CSC-only features?

I don't always have CSC on hand, but I usually have well-over 30mil sPs sitting around for nothing else other than collecting interest or being saved primarily for weapons. I'd be happy to spend 10mil sPs to upload a custom overlay for one of my pets.

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Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Dat's rude though.

I need to find the post where I was talking about group challenges because I STILL WANT THIS TO BE A THING, OMG.

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
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What's rude? :o Group challenges...like a restock war again? That'd be cool, I never got to experience that. xD

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Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

Stealing your parent's credit card.

Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
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It happens, unfortunately. I only did that once, back when I was a stupid kid. I got my ass whooped for it, and had to pay back my parents the amount I had spent. |D

Your ideas...MC weapons, mods, background, challengers....

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Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Andrea
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Craig

It was on the pet slot board, for the record-- I liked that idea. It actually needs to be it's own board so Keith doesn't just see "pet slot" and nope the hell away from it for obvious reasons.

Haha well to be fair there ARE MC weapons and we just got a MC challenger (which was rather cheap, but apparently well suited-- which is hilarious because people paid 250csc for tier 1-3 challengers without much complaint but complained that the 2m one was lackluster... okay). But I would like to see the legendaries brought back into the MC for a cheaper price (like 25-30m a pop)... with the pretty art and all of the combinations that'd probably soak up a chunk of sP from the system.

Mods though, I'd really love to see some neat mods in the MC. Something along the lines of the parched/singed (as in, baguettes that both deal some icons + a lil something something) for something like 2-5m a pop. Considering mods poof/can be replaced/and how many mod slots some weapons have.. for the right mod a lot of sP could be drained from the system that way.

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Apr 25, 2015 10 years ago
Flying Ace
Speiro
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Quote by Wolf_spirit
it&;s a little thing called real life. Punishing people who need to take care of things there (work, other responsibilities) isn&;t right.

People without a life (like myself) pay for items in terms of the time we spend on the site. Time is basically a currency. We're not getting these things for free. We actually work for them, the same as you would work for the cash you spend on Subeta.


Apr 26, 2015 10 years ago
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The MC really needs to split its inventory into two shop types--a seasonal shop and a year-round shop. Then there'd be no excuse for having to wait for summer to buy a PQuill. xD

As for mods and such, they'd need to be pretty badass mods. Like, ones that have a chance to boost a stat by 100 in battle, or a chance to double the amount of defense icons for a turn (IE, Blackmoons War plate min-max blocking icons is 40-64. With a 'double defense mod', you could get a turn in which it blocks 80-128 icons. And no, stacking multiple of this mod would not increase the chance of it activating, nor would it increase the amount of icons blocked).

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Apr 26, 2015 10 years ago
Andrea
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Idk, I mean imo parched baguettes are definitely worth 1-2m (especially if you know you're going to leave them on something for potentially ever)... who can say no to 4 icons + a super helpful blessing? Singed ain't too bad in regards to just dealing a ton more damage either, plus a curse.

I don't think the mods would have to be OP really to be worth it. Like a blessing of neutral armor baguette, with a higher chance to activate and/or maybe adding some defense? Or for a huge sink they could put a healing mod in there that adds 1% heal for like 20m. Or mods that offer like a 10% chance of freezing, or mods that give a weapon an extremely odd 5-10% chance of blasting a challengers weapon into dust. There are a lot of things that could be considered that users would pay a high cost for, if the BAs were to consider what would be straight/not game breaking.

I mean shit, look at how much people pay for Somas/Shrieks/Smashers.. don't tell me people would scoff at paying 10m+ for a mod that'd add a 10% chance to freeze/blast.

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Apr 26, 2015 10 years ago
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True...I could really see major benefits from mods that actually would have a chance to blast an opponent's weapon. Especially when stealing is disabled.

-shrugs- But i digress. Putting 100 CSC in the MC wouldn't make any difference in the user shop pricing. Yes, it might decrease in price for a short period of time, but A.) not by much, B.) it does not account for hoarding behavior, C.) first come, first serve, meaning all the cheap ones will quickly be bought up, and D.) attempting to stabilize 100 CSC doesn't inherently fix the price of 1000 CSC because of reasons A and B*.

*Assuming I've thought this all through correctly (I need to take an economics class).

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Apr 27, 2015 10 years ago
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I honestly don't understand when people who are bleeding CSC out their ears complain that they can't afford anything worth more than 10k. Sell freaking... 200 CSC and hi you have ten million sp go buy some shit.

I think putting a 5 day GA for 5mil in the cash shop, or a 5 day GA in the MC for 100 CSC, would be a smart move. People with GAs would probably quest more, participate more in site activities, etc. And if people start using/getting used to the perks of GAs, they might start buying them more often. Potentially more profit!

Apr 27, 2015 10 years ago
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Kyy

i really do like the idea of customizable weapons, via mods. That way everyone is not as cookie cutter. Also, at the moment, some mods are objectively better than others, you dont use X mods, you cant win. I would like more competition.

Also, Perhaps make mods expirable? aka lasts 100 battles or 250 or whatever is reasonable

a big issue is that alot of MC items are 1 time or x time buy, very few things (on this site, in general) require constant purchasing.

MKBs, stat boosters, csc are essentially always in demand and thats why their prices are usually stable (to some extent), and follow a slow decline curve until a spike event. Almost every other item on site has a exponential decay graph for its worth. Then if it gets retired, its worth exponentially increases.

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I think putting a 5 day GA for 5mil in the cash shop, or a 5 day GA in the MC for 100 CSC, would be a smart move.
i like the GA in MC idea, its not a new idea, but it is not a bad one. However, put it in the MC seasonally, but make it DIRECTLY APPLY to the account so people cant just stock them up and resell (which i think is the issue that the staff has with the idea)

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