There have been a couple of ideas in this topic. (1) Retire some items from the main shops. This was done quite often in the past. (Perhaps there could be a topic where players suggest what items to retire.) (2) Clear the main shops more than once every 24 hours.

And as I said, hoarding comes from the amount of items in the system. Buying to frag or recycle removes said items. Making it more difficult for people to buy from the user shops only adds to amount of items in system. (Less outgoing + same ingoing = more total.) I get that all of those items are strain on the system (which honestly sounds more like something that needs fixing on the database side), but.... The fix that... What happened to NPC shops not stocking as many items? I know that was implemented, but I see no changes as a result. Maybe tweak that instead of affecting a lot of people's play style in a negative way without really fixing things...

If this wait time has helped with the two issues, I'd like to see proof of it, because I and many others don't see it...

Wouldn't it be a better solution to code it so it doesn't, like, do this? Is this something that all pet sites do, or is it just Subeta's thing?

Or just look at suggestions made in the thread earlier. I thought the point of the fragmentizer and RB was that they effectively deleted crap out. Same thing with discarding items. Heck, make a contest to see who can discard the most items at this rate. Our own Charity Corner or something.

Aw man, our own Charity Corner would be so cool! But I’d prolly have it only the one time, or whenever items begin to bog down the site again, right before they plan to make their major changes to cut down on items. I remember reading that Charity Corner becoming a yearly thing ended up doing the exact opposite of what was intended, that people only hoarded more items than ever before in anticipation of the next event.

I still think that they should just release more desirable and high-price items for RB and Fragging more often than they do. Keep those features more alive than ever and you’ll see cheap items disappear!✨

I can see how the Fragmentizer may be slower at helping the de-clutter effort (turning in an item can result in two crystals being made, which still count as items until turned in), but the Recycle Beast already does the same thing that a mass item deleting event would do. It just needs unique pools per user instead of only one 25 item pool each day to help diffuse the item focus.

I could see a once-in-a-while kind CC being done. Or make it so the prizes are like....I dunno, something like when donated sPs to get the teahou--to get the West centropolis Ma--uh, you know that sorta thing!

The prizes would have to be something the staff could actually deliver, though, otherwise people who remember the new feature auction wouldn't bother. After all, we've been waiting years for the Teahouse and West Centropolis Map.

maybe have blue building ask for 5X of one item occasionally during quests? Only 5 quests a day so it doesn't get too tedious, but gets more items out of circulation.

It feels like the focus should be on stopping so many times from going into circulation in the first place, as opposed to trying to clean up afterwards. Having questers ask for more items is tedious and is a bit of a bandage. Makes more sense not to get the items in to circulation in the first place. Retiring items from main shops, having main shops clear more often than 24hr, restocking crystal shop more often or having recycle beast ask for unique items for each user are some great ideas that don’t add more tedium to the player experience the way adding a pause on buying items from shops or adding more quest items does.

sighhhhh. i really still don't think slowing down the process of buying from user shops is even remotely the start of a good solution to this issue. too many items entering the economy on a daily basis means there should be... fewer items entering the economy on a daily basis.

so maybe quest givers don't award as many items per quest, but the likelihood of getting better items is proportionately increased so people don't feel cheated out of the chance at good rewards. and as others have mentioned, maybe shops don't stock as much at a time, and clear stock more often. and maybe the vending limit gets lowered again (which may or may not necessitate readjustments to the item pools and/or vend rates).

this is just making life more annoying for people trying to play the game normally and engage with basic, intended site features :|

Please don't have quest givers ask for more items. Just two items can be tedious with the 5 second wait buying from main shops and Maleria can be even more tedious when she asks for 3 items.

They could just simply do a "Subeta bought your..." for all the "mispriced" items, like they regularily used to. Prices have in general dropped insanely especially for all the valuables and rares sans the few top items, which therefore nobody can ever afford again. Releasing retired items has also backfired in that they dropped from unobtainable to worth nothing. The whole economy is a mess :-(

oh, please dont increase quests givers requests. maleria is actually my least favourite because of her perchance of 3 items, especially since her quest pool is usually shop items, it'd just be painful and slow and tedious. [edit] absolutely love avels idea of removing the BQ item drops.

Really all that needs to be done is look at main shops and fix the stock issue. Book Nook can have up 200+ items available at a time. That's insane. Cut that down to 50 max. Clear shops regularly too. So they don't stock for 10 or 20 minutes sometimes throughout the day, I think we'd all survive. xD

And let us throw everything at RB, not just items he wants each day.

Keelhauliday would have caused a lot of junk items on the site because people used Ocean Depths in hope of getting pirate wearables. It would have made more sense to have the Mystery Box give out Freyalise Trading items as it did one year.

Remove vending from Major Drills quests.

This. All of this. I do all of my quests everyday because questpoints are forever needed (lol) and I almost never buy from user shops unless it’s Saggi quests. Generally the items questers ask for is always in stock in the main shops.

Right now there are exactly 300 unique items on Plushie Parlour. Three-freaking-hundreds unique items. Add an item and stack cap in the bigger shops. Maybe create a rotating system for lower rarity items where it pulls 100 or whatever random item from its pool to be the ones that have a chance of restocking that day. Keep r160 prizes and certain quests untouched but remove items as prizes for quests like Pete or Cursed or at least decrease to one. Maybe make BB give a symbolic amount of sP (like up to 5k or something) instead of items.

Honestly, making changes that naturally change the flow of the game in so subtle ways that the players don't even feel it makes way more sense than adding barriers as to "force" them to play it however staff deems ideal. It also pisses people off less. I know all this is much harder and complex than just increasing the amount of items a quest giver asks for but I would rather have a whole year of nothing followed by an update that truly fix the problem once and for all than blocking the sun with a sieve [sub][sub]too lazy to Google the equivalent in English for this expression[/sub][/sub] every damn week just for it to all crumble later on.

I'm also not favour of increasing the amount of items a quest giver can ask for - I would rather see some of the prizes dropped. If they give two prizes out, make them give one out. That way, at least one item is taken out per quest, roughly.

Also, would anyone miss the items we get from the Battle Quests? Surely, people do it for the the experience to train their pets, not for the items. I always frag them without even looking because I just hate having 20 new items all the time.