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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
jKat
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Omg that idea would be awesome! The thought makes me tingle lol. RE battles with Stat boost rewards.... Love it!!!!

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Yes, maybe a RE that has Reischen ask for us to attack some evil rare monstrosity, we go and fight it, and you get a lot of EXP or battle tokens or a major stat boost, YES! It&;d be like a wild encounter! And it can be randomized difficulty, sometimes it will be easy, sometimes it will be hard? And he can tell you before you accept the task what the difficulty level is, and if it&;s not in your range, you can decline and wait for another RE to pop up.</p>
<p>That&;s brilliant! The only question is do you make the prize the same across the entire board regardless of difficulty, or scale it? I&;m thinking make it the same across the board? Easy or Impossible difficulty, if you win, you can get, say, +10 points in Strength regardless of the difficulty level. But the reason to have various difficulties is so anyone can challenge it and win, it&;s not just catering to a pet that can beat Extremely hard opponents.

I like this idea a lot, and this is a great example of something that sounds doable with our current system. I've posted this comment over in the employee slack so we can discuss it more. :)

Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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or even a request to just bring back a seasonal challenger period (Hoarfrost).
cough Dungarde cough

Decorating for Dungarde Complete Dungarde's decorating quests!

0 / 1 10 25 50 75 Ignore ^, misunderstood the achievement. =/

AlI have to say about these boxes is: I knew battling was headed for this kind of 💩 , when they took a real money item and made it a fake money item. Peace out!

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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?? the npc dungarde was not a battle challenger, how is that relevant to any of this?

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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?? the npc dungarde was not a battle challenger, how is that relevant to any of this?
Oh it wasnt? I was on hiatus, so I just misunderstood. So Sorry.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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it's all good, i was just confused because that quest was just turning in luminaire ornaments x)

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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oh i also completely forgot --</p>
<p>Single Sheer Glove (all bases) for the other arm i&;m the last post on this so i can&;t bump it up again, but apparently they&;ve had the art for the gloves!
so i have no idea what happened with those (i really want them too!!) but at least they were technically unaffected by (gestures) all of this loot box nonsense i guess :s

I've added my own post now and Amber replied to it. She said

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Oh, weird! I thought I released them already. I&;ll put them out along with the free shop later today.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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it&;s all good, i was just confused because that quest was just turning in luminaire ornaments x)
All I seen was Dungarde and immediately thought: Dungarde is a BC opp, so thought it was battle related. /headdesk

[box=#eeffee]Maybe I missed it, but I didnt see if it was posted about how Sandreaver and Kwand was released, so for all the people who dont know:

[item2=Sandreaver] ( which is inside the 9bil Godly Fanciful Box )

was won by battling - : Genetech Lab Combination: Temple Guardians Axe Head + Cracked Satyr Blade Tip + Steele Shovel

Notes: Strike the final blow to the Saheric Temple Guardian. Prize for being one of the top fighters against Saheric Temple Guardian!

Achievement Prize: Life Is A Satyr, Defeat the Satyr of the Wilds 10 times

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From Fragmentizer shop( Crystal shop ) :

Official Price: 90,000 Crystals ^ Dont believe this was released any other way.

iirc: Oracles Staff of Enlightenment (OStaff) and Shinwas Sacred Bow (SSB) were prizes from the first Reading Contest ( 2005/6 ) When there was like only 100 books onsite total. The other 3 OG Godlies [ Blackmoons Staff (BStaff), Malerias Staff of Destruction (MStaff), and that ugly Wand of the Phoenix (WotP) :P ], I am not 100% sure on, but I think they were prizes from the very first RS war. Then about 10 years ago, all 5? OGs, where put in Crystal Shop @ 10k Humming Power Crystals each. Just thought to throw that out there...[/box] Peace! 🌈

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I only got into battling at first because so many of the Top prizes are wearable weapons with good art

I liked what was done w/ Malhuili to give all pets the chance to earn a weapon. I spent 6 hours straight clicking and got one. I don't feel like time was wasted there. I also like what was done w/ the Hydragellos Cores the previous wars, although I think the damage could be lower for lower tier pets. I don't feel like my time or SP was wasted dealing 15m damage with a low-tier 11 pet. Both of those items are "status symbols". I am not upset that other people can now access them, and don't feel like my "investment" in them or other weapons has suddenly been destroyed because other people could get them for cheaper.

What I think was good about boxes Getting some old war/event prizes back into circulation Some items that have been in the system for quite a while are finally activated I guess?

What I think was bad about the boxes Purchase limits should have been more aggressive/longer. Loot boxes, in general, feel super shitty. Saying "Oh well you're still getting a deal because the loot box is cheaper than the weapon!" feels bad when the weapon you get is one that's outclassed by something you already have/not something you have a strong need for. Saying "Buy them from other users/trade them" is not a good solution to that. People want to be able to work towards their weapons with progress in the Battle system, not via having huge amounts of SP. NEW WEAPONS were released in both the 125m and 9b boxes, meaning they're effectively loot box exclusives. Asking people to suddenly have 9 billion liquid SP (or even 125m liquid SP) with no warning feels really shitty. Token Shop, BHH, Crystal Shop are all things that people are used to hoarding for, but asking people to be able to pull that SP out of nowhere with no warning feels bad. The argument for the 9B godly boxes was to "protect investments" which is something that doesn't apply to any other site-created part of the site (And comparing it to CWs, which are user created with the knowledge that they are controlled by a USER and not the SITE, is a bad deflection). Why are weapons given this special consideration? "We have battle content coming up ;)" and it's lootboxes.

Also bring back Throwback Thursday or Throwback Challengers with old plot mobs who drop stuff that people actually want.

Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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This is exciting, your suggestion is possibly going to become real! Cross fingers! ^^

I've got other ideas that I will approach with in a while, but most namely something that can be done to the challenger page and removing some of the mystery behind what a challenger might do in battle (IE, healing disabled, attacks with fire and dark icons primarily). It can be made toggleable if people really do not want it, but I think this would be great for not just newbies, but everyone. I go on periodic breaks, come back to battle and have no memory about which opponent does what. I love the mysteries of not knowing what an opponent will do at first though, so perhaps see if it's possible that when you unlock someone new, you have to battle them first to then unlock the information about them (what they disable/attacking icons)?

has a wonderful CSS they use in doing this already (it's seriously cool, check it out here), but something official might be more useful in the long run.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
jKat
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WOW THEY WERE JUST SOME IDEAS I had randomly that day. But BQare a bit boring now my pets have all tiered up. But I'm helping a friend get into battling this would be awesome for her too.

What about a battle blitz week as a new event, maybe during subeta birthday week. I've always been bummed that week as not much exciting happens. What about when a month has 31 days bring out an old challenger at random for that day? Definitely more BQ not just 30....we get bored. Please DO not make it attached to paying real money on the site though. Don't discriminate, not everyone can or chooses too.... Says the person who lost thousands over at the OTHER pet site.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Quote by METROID

This is exciting, your suggestion is possibly going to become real! Cross fingers! ^^</p>
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I&;ve got other ideas that I will approach with in a while, but most namely something that can be done to the challenger page and removing some of the mystery behind what a challenger might do in battle (IE, healing disabled, attacks with fire and dark icons primarily). It can be made toggleable if people really do not want it, but I think this would be great for not just newbies, but everyone. I go on periodic breaks, come back to battle and have no memory about which opponent does what. I love the mysteries of not knowing what an opponent will do at first though, so perhaps see if it&;s possible that when you unlock someone new, you have to battle them first to then unlock the information about them (what they disable/attacking icons)?</p>
<p> has a wonderful CSS they use in doing this already (it&;s seriously cool, check it out here), but something official might be more useful in the long run.

oooo I love that CSS! We can absolutely incorporate more of this information into the challenger page.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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That would be wonderful if you could do that! No more having to try and remember so many opponent gimmicks then. xD

That's me every day. Sudden epiphanies out of nowhere. You get used to it.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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Event prizes should really just retired and fade out of existence and never get a rerelease. Sure people will cry about not getting X weapon or wearable, how its not fair, or it costing trillions to buy from other players, but it&;s really the cleanest solution.</p>
<p>Instead, refocus attention to making new weapons, prizes, improving the system &amp; UI, etc. I feel new things will excite people way more than trying to work and manage relics of the past.

I haven't read all the news comments or the posts here, but I agree with this. I was really surprised to return to Subeta, on and off over the years, to find out that a lot of my old event prizes were suddenly available for anyone to just buy for some reason. I wasn't mad or anything, and I get that most of the people who would put those items back into circulation probably just don't play anymore.

So de-rarifying and de-valuing stuff all over the site definitely has precedent. See the Free Shop, the Token Shop, the chance machines, whatever. Whether that's good or bad is not really my business - things have also gotten more "consumable" over the years, with Gourmand and Pet Treasures and Wearable collecting and whatnot becoming popular. But I think it makes way more sense to make NEW stuff. It's more fun and it's accessible. Make new godlies that people can win with their epic battle pets.


Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I’d just like to know how many wins I have against an opponent say for my active pet on the challenger page.

Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I said this elsewhere but I'll repeat here, put the challenger difficulty level back on the challenger page. Removing it did more harm than good for confusing new battlers. It's also a pain when going past 10 wins to remember the magic numbers for amulet, tome and scroll piece drops, since it's based on difficulty level.


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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago Official
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Quote by METROID

I&;ve got other ideas that I will approach with in a while, but most namely something that can be done to the challenger page and removing some of the mystery behind what a challenger might do in battle (IE, healing disabled, attacks with fire and dark icons primarily).

Yep! A couple days ago now, Keith, Bug, Purge and I started discussing options for making both what opponents do and what weapons do more transparent. We'd like to have some better hovers on weapons (that somehow explain what their custom coding does), and we'd like to be more transparent about boss icon types and such (without having to keep a list somewhere that we manually update). Still working out how that'll all go.

Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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You could always list 'stealer', 'freezer' on an opponent's weapon if it has a chance to do any of those. Kinda like our labels on the weapons we use such as Truth Serum. I do like the battle flavor text a lot though, and that generally is clear enough to me to determine which weapon did what.

But yes, if you could improve the hovers, that'd be great too. I know the scalers get funky though.

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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were famous now.....Keith responded to us . Lol forgive me everyone I've just come out of world's longest lockdown I'm delirious.

I cannot wait to see changes. But one change I do not ever want to see is nightlady. She is the reason I got into battling to be honest. A chance at getting a shreik scroll and the morosbane scroll but mostly shrieks, is something I think about every time I tier up a bit. Every October I'm stronger and have 1 more pet able to fight her. I'd love for new battlers to feel that too, maybe it's a different challenger they long for.

Loving life xx

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Sep 8, 2021 4 years ago
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I'm really excited to see these new changes coming out eventually! I love when battling can get some TLC and quality of life improvements added. I am lazy to a degree. xD

Yusss leave Nightlady forever. She's evil and beautiful and I love her and all the evil things she does. Okay, getting iced sucks, but she is definitely one of my favorite Morostide opponents too. I remember thinking she was the big bad boss of Morostide since everyone always talked about her.

(also there's a billboard of someone's cats i think and it makes me smile, thank you whoever you are)

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