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Apr 17, 2021 4 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
Roadkill
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Lewis Pepper

are these suggestions for future items, because we don't seem to have items named those, unless they've already been changed away from those names? I'm just a bit confused sorry ^^"

also just saw the large section of 'item not founds' on the front post, I'm hoping that means we have new names for a chunk of these now? :D

edit: just saw the post from bug!

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As a Chinese American myself, I deeply understand the toll of what our community has gone through, not just last month but throughout US history. These items were meant to be changed immediately, and the process for doing so was started, but the content team had a lot on their plate and apologizes for the delay.</p>
<p>I&;ve just renamed the items and tweaked some descriptions. These items were all from the Brass Costume Trunk, which mentions a legend in its description, so I renamed the items to &quot;Elegant (item) of Legend&quot; and &quot;Imperial (item) of Legend&quot;. See changed items here.</p>
<p>I also tweaked any item descriptions that needed an update, including the cherry blossom. Finally, I did a search and removed the word &quot;oriental&quot; from any other item descriptions that had it.</p>
<p>This should take care of official items. I&;m currently discussing with Jessi how we&;d like to handle CWs with the same issues. Those will be taken care of.

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Apr 17, 2021 4 years ago
DaPuppy
brought home the bacon
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Little Grimmsy

Yes, these are just suggestions for future items. I'm sorry if I posted them improperly.

No big deal to me either way, I just had a brief (few) moment(s) of inspiration.

So if they're not accepted that's fine. I'll just wait and see, I'll take no response to this as a "No".

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Apr 17, 2021 4 years ago
Laurey
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If you're suggesting new items that you would like to see, that would be better off in a separate thread. This topic is meant to make suggestions regarding already existing items that have names or descriptions that are problematic or use offensive language and should be changed.

You would be welcome to make a new thread for your suggestions though, so staff can better see it and understand what you are suggesting. :)

Apr 20, 2021 4 years ago
Marcus
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Pollinator

Maybe not necessarily the greatest offender, but the "politically correct" part of its name feels tongue-in-cheek and kind of cheapens the issue of respectful depictions of indigenous people.

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Apr 21, 2021 4 years ago
halstarlight
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Baby

i saw the single pea item today and thought for a minute that the ultimate miracle meal had finally been changed !! had to check this thread to make sure and, no, unfortunately, none of the items here have been altered. i want to put in my support for basically all of the listed items here changing in some way.

on a personal note, it irks me that some people who have had to suffer through something as all-encompassing and utterly grueling as an eating disorder are indicating that because they can cope and find humor in it, that it should be preserved. i hate bringing this up, but this is a fragment of code on a virtual pet site. if it can hurt someone in such a low place, why keep it ? there are plenty of private groups or more appropriate websites you could make the same kinds of jokes.

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Apr 22, 2021 4 years ago
If ever a whiz there was
BLAZE
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Quote by demonhatchet

I mean blackie/whitey is a pretty common name for pets (I&;ve mostly seen cats) the name only referencing their coat color. Considering the description has no reference to anything race related that one seems innocent to me.

I realize how late I am in this game, but this response is the EXACT REASON this item name needs to change.

The item is named "Darki" This user drew a direct line from that to "blackie"

The history of darkie being used as a racist moniker for black people is not unknown. The item description has no reference to the "fur" color of the minion.

It doesn't need to be overt to be racist.

Apr 23, 2021 4 years ago
The cards were stacked against
iara
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SCP Foundation

Not hurtful in any way, but outdated. Zapper Version 2 no longer exists and, instead, is called the "Ultimate Zapper" now.

Also maybe we all could post our suggestions for new item names/descriptions? I wouldn't mind trying some if you guys ask me!

May 8, 2021 4 years ago
The Plushie Collector
Mutt
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Bloodclaw

Honestly used to drink to get over anxiety and ended up commenting when I shouldn't have, I am all for changing that item and admit I should not have said anything in the first place. I have been sober from alcohol for like 6 months and my life is significantly better. Sorry! Totally agree with you I had no idea what I was talking about.

May 10, 2021 4 years ago
If ever a whiz there was
BLAZE
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Quote by demonhatchet
Honestly used to drink to get over anxiety and ended up commenting when I shouldn&;t have, I am all for changing that item and admit I should not have said anything in the first place. I have been sober from alcohol for like 6 months and my life is significantly better. Sorry! Totally agree with you I had no idea what I was talking about.

Hello! I didn't mean to hold you solely responsible - I should have removed the "ping" part of the quote (I haven't used the forums in a while and forgot it does that, actually) & I am glad to hear you are in a happier and healthier place! :)

May 27, 2021 4 years ago
feral
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Can we maybe change this skin's name from "Crack Head" to something else. I get it, haha funny joke meme name but also, given the stereotyping (and racial profiling) with the term 'crackhead' can we... move past this to something better.

(yes I know this was community voted somehow, but no that doesn't change my opinion in the slightest and yes as someone who has lost people to drug addiction I am particularly more sensitive to this garbage but also something like drug addiction / etc isn't as funny as people think it is)

May 27, 2021 4 years ago
Reaper
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Derek Hale

Seconding a change request on the crack head skin and items. I really like that skin but that name really rubs the wrong way =/

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May 27, 2021 4 years ago
Saturnine
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Fearleading

Thirded. "Cement Cracks", "Cement Head" (provided that has no unfortunate connotations) would be just as cool. Wouldn't be punny but it's not questionable.

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Jun 1, 2021 4 years ago
Star Captain
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Agree on changing the zombie strain name, we've already changed one for being named after a real condition and since addiction is, indeed, a disease.. only makes sense!

Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago Official
Amber
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Taco

Just want to say I've gotten quite a few of the items changed in the original post (thanks for keeping that updated).

I'm still working on getting the aggressive shaming descriptions updated, but gotten a good chunk of them updated. I appreciate everyone's input and anything I don't end up changing, I'll make sure to put my reasoning. As of right now, I don't see anything that would fall under that category though.

Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
Trees
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Oh, the name of that minion and the related items have been changed. I always thought it was potentially offensive.

Does anyone have a list of the newest items that were changed? The first post is mostly "item not found" now.

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Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
frederick
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If could just poke a bit These aren't aggressive or shaming, just confusing and misleading to the point of being a problem as these are important for battling. It's as if these items had a different use entirely when the description was written.

Maybe it could be changed to something like "These crystals have a chance to bless your pet, cloaking it in warm desert air to protect it from being frozen in battle."

Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
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Lewis Pepper

Quote by ricetheroni
i saw the single pea item today and thought for a minute that the ultimate miracle meal had finally been changed !! had to check this thread to make sure and, no, unfortunately, none of the items here have been altered. i want to put in my support for basically all of the listed items here changing in some way. </p>
<p>on a personal note, it irks me that some people who have had to suffer through something as all-encompassing and utterly grueling as an eating disorder are indicating that because they can cope and find humor in it, that it should be preserved. i hate bringing this up, but this is a fragment of code on a virtual pet site. if it can hurt someone in such a low place, why keep it ? there are plenty of private groups or more appropriate websites you could make the same kinds of jokes.
thought I'd replied to this but apparently not, gotta say I am 1000% here for this take (both for this item and others of a similar nature).

EDIT: I was actually thinking about this today during errands and the idea of changing the descriptions without need for art revamp immediately would be changing to a kinda joke about how in fancy restaurants they charge like 80 bucks for 2 bites of food or whatever. "oh cute, they gave us a sample of our meal? wait, no, that's the DISH? how much are they charging us for this again?" something like that.

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Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
amorphik
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Teek

I found this one and genuinely feel a little shocked it still has this description. What's the odds we could make this one not sound like anti-vaxx propaganda?

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Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
Laurey
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That is a very old item and has been mentioned on this thread I think. I do agree that the description should be changed, but that item originally was released during the first Survival/zombie outbreak events here on Subeta and was meant to sarcastically refer to the idea that wearing a mask like that wouldn't protect people from zombie viruses specifically. So I don't think it's meant to be anti-vax or anti-medical science in the real world, but yeah it has been brought up to be changed to make that more clear or just redo the description entirely.

Jun 6, 2021 4 years ago
amorphik
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Teek

Ahh, that's relieving! Yeah that description just happened to age like milk.

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