I've maxed out my pet slots and have been hoarding Pokemon names for lack of anything meaningful to fill them with. |D But with non-unique names, I would still fork over a ton of csc to sell in order to rename those pets, color them, fill their TCs, etc. GIVE ME A REASON TO SPEND MY MONEY 8(

I'd be okay with non-unique Pet names.

Sure, I've spent A LOT of time and effort in some names, I've been waiting for YEARS for some to finally clear and I've almost died when I tried for them (and got them, some I didn't).

I wouldn't mind at all if there were suddenly multiple Pets with the name Andre (for example). It absolutely wouldn't change my love for my most fav OC. What makes my Andre special is what I did with him, his character, his story, what he went through etc etc

And these unique things no one can take away from me- while other Andre pets would be unique as well because their owner would do something completely different. I would absolutely love browsing their Profiles to take a look at their ideas for their Andre OCs.

In the end I wouldn't lose anything since I could also get names I've always wanted. Names I use other versions for or even just don't own at all because everything else would not be satisfying enough.

Also, the already mentioned "Pet name drama" is another factor for me. I've seen many Users being called 'unworthy' (and worse) for owning a Pet name because someone else thought they'd be the better owner cuz they would use it for character XYZ/their OC/their neighbor's dog's cousin in law and only this character is fitting the name AT ALL.

Thought that this post might be mildly relevant to your conversation:

Just to throw my two cents in, I do not support non-unique names.

From my point of view, that thrill of finding a cool pet name in the Adoption Center, or discovering it's available, or that someone has a pet up for adoption, is a big part of the fun that I have on this site. It's like finding a sudden treasure. It can spark the imagination and really gets me involved in making cool profiles or at least painting castles in the sky of the personality of the pet based on their name. I also feel reasonably assured that if I no longer desire the pet, they will be wanted by someone based on their name.

Admittedly, I have some cool names in my possession. Most of these were adopted by me through the AC or from another user. Fortunately, I have never been harassed by someone else wanting the names, but I do sympathize with those who experience this. However, I don't think such "pet name drama" would cease to exist in a non-unique name situation. Instead of "I deserve that pet name more than you, give it to me", it would become "My PetName is more real than yours." Changing the rules doesn't change jealousy and pettiness.

I've also had to figure out creative spelling in order to get names I wanted. Most of the time, this works out. In my case, I literally changed the spelling of my cat's name IRL (Heidy) so that her Subeta self could be the same. Would I prefer Rhyme to Rime, Eleanor to Eleonor, Leia to Leiah, or Arizona to Anozira? Maybe. Then again, the longer I have the pet, the more that spelling is suited to them. Changing the spelling would be purely cosmetic and in some cases would make me less happy, because it would take away their uniqueness.

Having unique names gives more scope for the imagination. Just when I think I've pared down my pets and decided I have enough, I find another pet to adopt or name on the RW thread whose name sparks something in me and makes me happy (and makes me spend more money on this site, tbh). I think if anything, new users could be directed to threads such as the Available Real Names or Available Real Word Names posts. Or there could be some sort of smarter name suggester that doesn't simply add numbers to a word. Or there could be people who volunteer to help someone pick out a name. Some people are really good at that.

One thing I'm afraid of if there is non-unique names is that it would devalue many pets. There is already a big deal about pet IDs, and some people spend quite a lot of money making sure that all their pets have certain IDs, usually under 1 mill. Some people, like myself, prefer certain birthdays. It is true that we can already do name swaps to take a cool name off a younger pet/a pet with the wrong birthday, but it doesn't necessarily always happen. Newer users or users who do not care about IDs/birthdays will be just as happy finding a cool named pet in the AC. If there were no unique names, however, who would adopt all those pets? They'd just end up a waste of space on the servers until they were purged.

I'm leaning toward being ok with non unique names and this is coming from someone who spends weeks straight hunting for names. But only if there is some sort of compromise.

I would still want some sort of acknowledgement for the original name holders. I don't really like the nickname idea but maybe something like "The Original / (Custom) / Pet Color / Species" or using a sort of Legacy attribute or small symbol. Maybe also have all pets have their ids listed under their names in parentheses?

Mock Ups

Id under name?

Then if someone were to search a certain pet name, taking my Rooney again for example. You'd be taken to a page that listed all the Rooney's by order of their creation this would put the original name holder as first and allow them to keep their sense of pride.

Example

I used the most read books list for this so if your UN is there please don't take offense!

For pets that are on inactive accounts that already have had their names taken, they are given free name changes so I don't seen much an issue there I am sure a retuning user would love to be able change their now Buddy_485 back to Buddy and simply be lower on the list of as mentioned above. I think that is a fair trade off for a full year of inactivity.

If a user were to change their pet name that pet would be removed from the ranking list of their original name and added to the ranking of their new name...if the owner then choose to switch back to the original name they would not get their original ranking back.

I would also make having a non-unique name a paid feature to still encourage users to create unique names/characters. [edit] After seeing 's nickname mock ups I'm more ok with that option. I feel either way non-uniques should be paid and possibly optional (per pet) for original name holders to lock their unique names.

Having "Legacy", and afterwards a "Name Given" timestamp could be a possible compromise.

IMO, "Original Name" isn't really the best description. It's not easy to tell if there are previous pets that got name bumped, deleted, or renamed voluntarily.

Please don't blend nicknames with actual names. It's going to confusing to tell them apart.

I'm still against this. Reason- I've spent real money on name swaps/changes. Unless I can get my money back, no thanks

, It doesn't have to be the word original that's just one I thought of. I'm not meaning "all of time" original either as that would never work. If a pet had a certain name X number of years ago and then that pet was deleted or had its name changed then the name it originally had would no longer exist. So if someone else made a pet with that name the new pet would now be the original as it's a title that follows the name not the user or the pet.

Here are some other possible names ideas instead of "original" maybe even give users the option to choose between a few choices like how forum titles work? • "The First" • "Legacy" - I feel this may be a bit redundant with this already being listed on pets that were created before the Born on dates were a thing • "Founder"

Examples:

Rooney

h4[/h4] The Custom Cream Telenine Owner: Born: July 30th, 2009 Adopted: July 30th, 2009 (Legacy)

Rooney

h4[/h4] The Custom Cream Telenine Owner: Born: July 30th, 2009 Adopted: July 30th, 2009 (Legacy)

Rooney

(The First)

The Custom Cream Telenine Owner: Born: July 30th, 2009 Adopted: July 30th, 2009 (Legacy)

I know I'm wary about potential misunderstanding of what the labels mean.

I feel that "Legacy" isn't redundant because it describes something. If someone says "That pet has a legacy name," it won't clash with the adaption date.

"The First" seems similar to "Original" Again, I don't think it's the best choice.

I thought about "Origin" and although it's somewhat less absolute than "Original", it can't be used as an adjective.

"Initial" is a possibility?

"Founder" looks fine, but it's not an adjective. I thought about "Source," and it has the same drawbacks as "Founder"

Overall, I still prefer "Legacy" because of its flexibility, and it looks like there won't be too many pitfalls from ambiguity.

i'm not super keen on any of original/legacy suggestions, sorry ;;

the reasons i like nicknames is that someone assigning their pet a nickname doesn't change anything for anyone else, whereas if i suddenly woke up tomorrow to find legacy (or some other word) on all my pet profiles i would be very very annoyed

i do like search page idea tho! maybe if nicknames become a thing the page could be divided like, exact match, nicknamed pets, partial match or something :>

I don’t remember if I’ve posted here yet, but support!

Subeta already uses pet IDs, so it’s not like unique names are the only way for a pet to be found or linked to. I definitely understand the enjoyment and pride of having the only pet with a certain name, or the excitement of being able to finally get lucky and snipe a name as it clears, but... Unique names are kinda dated in the current pet site climate, sadly. ):

There are a bunch of names I’d like to have for my pets (most notably my fanpets) if only they were available, so I’d really love a non-unique naming system for that. (‘: That way, everyone could have whatever pet names they want, users on hiatus wouldn’t have to worry about their pets’ names getting swiped, and the site might generate more appeal to new and returning users alike.

edit: I’ve spent real money on pet name changes multiple times, for what it’s worth. If we had a non-unique naming system, I would even spend more money because it means I’d be able to change my pets’ names to whatever I want!

So since everybody is talking about that this will be a thing, just wanted to say that I do not support this idea.

I know how bad it is that u want a pet name but u can't get, cause some silly human being, who even not posted anywhere or has something on ther profiles, just log in a few times a year so nobody could get their hands on the names.

BUT on the other hand, I really like the idea that every pet is UNIQUE! I would not like to see hundereds of pets named, example "A", would be really anoying to find a particullar "A", like if I really liked it's profile.

So many people supporting this and I'm gonna be one of the less ones who will be sad about Subeta getting a page, where u can reach EVERYTHING in like a few hours and there is no more charm to be active anymore.

EDIT I saw another topic, who suggest a "nickname" version, but I think kinda got much hate, don't know why. I would preffer that variant.

EDIT 2 For me THIS would be the perfect compromis.

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<p>so if a pet has a nickname assigned it would replace the actual name and that name would show up underneath it! as its own paragraph class so people can edit it
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<p>i dunno how much it would help the site lag during clearings, since many people might still try for the &quot;real&quot; name rather than settling for something else and giving a pet a nickname, but it could be a solution for people who just really want certain names

I saw how amazing non-unique pets are on FlightRising and support this idea now.

I mean technically, two members of staff said they wanted to do non-unique pet names so on one hand it could actually happen; on the other hand that was in January so therewan equal chance they've forgotten/changed their minds.

Personally I'd still like to see names change to non-unique; I'd be a bit hesitant to throw money down after the wardrobe fiasco (everyone knows the wardrobe is the breadwinner here) but if the site recovers and names changed then I'd probably still be down.

If not there's TH and my pet names will be subject to sit here doing absolutely nothing while I log in a few times a year etc etc. Would love to have already done that but as an essential employee I'm still working.... not to mention I've been catching bees and chopping trees (and buying amiibos instead).

How about if they let us put pet names up in trades! You can trade names or/and offer extra SP or CSC for older names!

Gotta throw my 2 cents in...

I could go in to more detail, but many said it more eloquently for my opinion on the previous version of this thread (see post ). I am against making pets non-unique.

As a definite pet person (93 and counting) I'm all for non-unique names.

For me, the ability to have the exact name for a beloved/important character gives me motivation to put the work in. I'm by no means lazy with my pets (40+ spotlight wins) but I find that as it gets harder to find names I like, I lose my drive to spend real money to complete pets where the name is just...meh.

I like the idea of some kind of recognition for the original-named pet. Maybe a ribbon on the profile? Something like

It shows the original pet's status but if someone absolutely doesn't want it displayed, it can be hidden. It's also different enough from the spotlight trophy not to be confusing. As an alternative, I wouldn't mind something like a star by the original pet's name. (I think I saw that suggested somewhere in here.)

I'm not a fan of nicknames. I'm guessing for a pet to be considered for spotlight, their "real" name would have to be displayed on their profile along with the nickname. To me, that's no different than giving them a unique (but unwanted) name and putting a nickname line in their story text, which I can do now.

For name clearings, I think the oldest active pet should get the ribbon. If I'm inactive for a year and Dac's name changes to Dac_456, I'd have the free name change to make him Dac again. He'd lose his ribbon to the second Dac in line but that would be on me for not logging on for that year. There would no longer be a point to madly refreshing on the day of a name clearing.

I actually really like this, that's fair to me :D

Non unique will even make more people leaving the site. Actually that names are unique is a main reason I stay on site. If names get non-unique actually will make the site boring for me and take a way something special of my pets and I know a lot of people that are the same.

ALL of this.

I also agree with . Clearings are one of the few exciting things about the site for me. With all of my friends on discord now I wouldn't need Sub to talk to them which is tbh has also been a big reason for me sticking around.

Personally I think, since people work for pet names apparently and they're so valuable/meaningful to someone that there should only be one of a name onsite, we need to get rid of pet names clearing entirely.

Sure we may want their names but some people may want my names too. It seems counter productive at this point. If life happens (boy does it) and they aren't able to play but eventually come back ready to enjoy the site/potentially spend money... all that probability is gone when they realize the one thing they can't get back is gone. Sure they could lose their username but since we're bound by one account/able to change usernames monthly that's probably not a deal breaker.

If that changed I could see the nickname idea working, as we're all on the same playing field in terms of names unless a user decides to rehome/abandon/adopt out a petname.