- Based on his skills, it seems likely he will drop. I hope he does.

- I'm ok with the -20 HP, its the effective +8 to all stats that bothers me [the fact that it does both really] (and I'm done with the BS 4th level skills in general). He keeps showing up in the GC battles, and it KILLS auto-battling those maps. Heck, it kills just trying to beat the maps while I'm in control cus there's so many damn defensive tiles and he just takes 0 damage to anything short of a red mage with TA. He definitely needs to be removed from the training tower. How are you supposed to train against a unit that can't be killed (except to a red mage with TA)? I've beat him a few times with my FB team cus Pain+ healer + two dancers, but it still takes like 12 turns to wittle him down into killable range OTL.

>_< While I never actually played the Telius series, I have the guide for Path of Radience and Rayson became my fave from that alone so I hope he does as well. I'd probably want to promote the first one I get if so.

Hope whoever is at the front of my lineup is helping, granted my teams are all disorganised lately

Hmm, I just went and looked at his skill set again because I'd forgotten about Surtr's Menace which definitely should not be a Thing. Honestly he has so much, you can delete any part of them and he'd still be busted as heck. If I had to pick anything to take away from him, it would be Sinmara's +3 def and removing the debuffs from his stupid C skill. Fully support him not showing up as a unit in anything AI related.

i've got my fingers crossed for your deathless run! and yeah, i don't think we can justify orbs for the corrections (unfortunately :p ) but i think some dew would make sense because there might be a few people who decided to refine julia's naga over something else because of the additional effect... but at this point i think it's pretty unlikely p:

also re/ surtr - i hate him very much, armor-slaying everything is the way to go and i'm mad i can't give morgan an armor-slaying tome to ensure COMPLETE DELETION >:C

thankies :3 and i'm so glad fred is helping! i just wish his cake knife was armor-slaying; the hammer is so boring looking haha e/ thought of you when i saw the new banner! i have my fingers crossed it's kind to you, if you end up rolling on it ;w;

Hurray, another camilla?? Ugh. The rest were a bit overdue for new alts, but camilla again? Whhhhhyyyyyyy? Overall new banner is meh. Not going to summon.

- his story was done quite well, but as a unit he sucks. Leanne and Rafael were much better, but you didnt get them.in PoR.

- yeah, lost out on some forging bonds points again today because of him. It's one thing to have to hear your arena/ar teams to inevitably have to deal with him, but trainig temas, and special teams, please get rid of him. TT coming up.... dont even want to have to think about how awful scores are going to be it he shows up on any map.

- even armour slaying isnt eniugh. Maybe festival michaiah can one shot him, but bc of wary fighter and his high def and hp, even an armourslayer cant kill him, and that person will need to gtfo to survive retaliation, so dancer/double draw back is needed, mages at least only need one repo to get out of the way.

So I heard. Found it interesting that he's more of a fighter in Heros given the lore behind Heron Laguz.

Not sure who I will get from the Hot Springs banner other then I will try until I get SOMEONE but seeing as another Camilla alt will be a freebe, I am almost tempted to promote my normal one so I can make a joke at having a "Camilla emblem" -has NY and Summer Camilla so with Bridal and Regular I would have a full range of colors-

Prioraty wise, I kinda want either the throwing units because of sillyness of throwing ducks and buckets at people or Ryoma.

there's one person on my friends list at 9200 lift and i'm just like. friend. buddy. person i've never met, who i don't remember adding. please make it into t20. let me live vicariously though you

i'm thankful it's a banner i don't care for, because i get to keep vainly trying for hrid 8)

and idk, i think armor-slaying does the work, though i guess i'm biased. i have a festival michaiah on my friends list and she's a blessing to use during grand conquest, esp during armor round (but she's also +3, +atk/-res). and my fred is good at dealing with them too (but i dump all my resources into him and he spends 90% of his time close to morgan and rein so he'd better be able to do work lol).

i just promoted naesala so i'm out of feathers and can't try anything out rn, but i got curious and played around with a combat sim -- i think a lot of axes with a pretty low investment combo of slaying hammer+ / death blow / axebreaker could take down some of these stupid beefy surtrs. armorsmasher+ and axebreaker with death blow or triangle adept could probably do well too? (i was thinking about cherche, specifically -- a neutral one with slaying hammer+ and axebreaker appears to KO a +def or +hp +10 surtr, but that doesn't account for buffs, and she doesn't make it if he has close def seal etc.)

- Yeah, his FB conversations were... weird.
I will be able to do Camilla Emblem with the new one too, but sadly, with two greens. I don't have summer or Adrift. (Did you mean the hot springs Camilla instead of bridal? I don't think we have a Bridal camilla) Yeah, Priority wise I want Elise because A. I don't have an Elise or a red ranged horsey, and B. DUCKS! But I'm pretty sure I'll just take what I can get free and then 'duck' out :P Not super crazy about more fates units, or the outfit theme, and their skill sets aren't groundbreaking.

- Your friedrick did help when we were on horse blessing for GC, but now that it's flier emblem, I'm back to having issues with him! lol. Caeda and Aversa help though.

I made T18 today, so now it cost EVEN MORE to get an extra play. I'm not even sure how it happened, since I don't really put any thought into aether raids, but for those 'win X amount of battles in aether raids' quests, it's really annoying needed more than half your max stamina for a single play. I don't really feel like upgrading my stamina pool thing.

I ment hot springs when I said bridal x_x I think I had Bridal on the brain as I at first forgot who I got Bridal wise last year ( It was Sanaki) so was looking at my catalog of Heros to figure it out.

I tend to grab holiday units just because of their limited avalibility....even if I don't exactly conect with the units.....>_> or they don't want to be summoned and cost me alot of cards to do so. -looks at the christmas units of both years-

Granted I tend to find SOMEONE on each banner, so far I think only last year's bridal banner was underwhelming unit wise compared to the year before.....but I didn't have any version of Sanaki so I was glad I got her.

- Not going for a particular unit is the way to go. Otherwise you waste a lot more orbs colour sniping, and its 10x more disappointing when you get pity broken (especially when that pity breaker isn't even the colour you were going for). <-- story of my FEH life.

>_< I know the feeling....-looks at the pitty brakers I've had that weren't holiday units at all-

Granted I've had "good" ones who were units I didn't have before like Katarina, Elise, and Deredre. On the flip side......-eyes my x2 Hardin manuals-

Edit: -training another group of lowbes now that my last team hit lv40- :/ Why must the AI pick on Mae?

- Flip side? I'd kill for 2x Bold Fighter fodder OTL. I don't have a single Hardin, I have +res Brave Hector though, who is very similar. (and I also don't have Katrina, Elise, or Dierdre) I usually get useless dupes. I have 2x Leif, 2x Legendary Lyn manuals, and +4 merged OG Ephraim. Best skills on the first two are non-inheritable, and Ephraim just needs to drop to 4* already. Moonbow and seal def? really? those aren't 5* locked worthy skills.

(They pick on Mae cus she gots no def)

I have neither a Leif or Legendary Lyn. My first Hardin was a pitty break but I was fine with that......every other time however....

My Mae isn't well stated but she was my first so I promoted her. Wanted to do so this time around incase she needs to babysit afew blue tome units later with her Blue Tome exp skill.

- I wish we could trade OTL. But at least Hardin has good skills, his other skill is Brazen something isn't it? Brazen skills are so good. Lyn's got speed tactic, which is good, but I find it too hard to use tactics skills, and rally def/res is good cus arena score, but you can get it from 4*, same with desperation, and her other skills aren't inheritable. Plus tactics and dual rallies are getting overtaken by the fancy 4th level hone and + rallies. And Leif's skills are all just meh. I'm keeping those spares around in case they give him a light brand refine (which I HOPE gives him range counter, cus it's the friggin Light Brand!)

I don't even think my +4 4* lvl 40 Mae has learned Blue Tome EXP. I don't find those skills useful. I have my castle fully upgraded and already find units level up too quickly for the amount of SP they need. I need more valor skills. They need to do a tome valor banner.

Yeh, I guess I seem to find more use for the exp skills even with the upgraded castle, mostly when I have one or two units lagging behind in exp while their buddys are farther along I tend to do this.

Athena's Red Sword exp helped Laviteane (typo), Lloyd, Navarre, and afew others who got killed more then killed things. Chances are Mae might babysit some armored tome units in the future as those guys lag behind the most --;

- And that's why I only train one unit at a time. Unit + Dancer + healer + valor unit/stat buffer = Super fast super easy training. Sometimes I train 2 together, usually I don't have more than one on the go, but if I have 2 together and 1 lags behind, then I just take the higher level unit out of the mix and go back to the original healer +dancer + buffer group. I trained Neasala and Leanne together, Leanne lagged behind a lot cus she's got no attack. Took Neasala off the team for a second healer with pain+ and Savage blow. (Leanna and Naesala still got to S rank support during the training)

True. x_x but it would probably take forever at this point as I have so many 5* below lv40 so I thought leveling them together would be more efficient.

Elise however will probably be leveled on her own though with abunch of lv40s.

- Yeah, healers are slow, but if you pair them with other training units (esp ones with fury!) they train up pretty fast (just be sure you don't have anyone with passive healing skills on the team, I had that problem when training Eir and Tana together, my healer was useless cus Eir kept healing Tana's fury damage). You have reminded me that my Lene is still only level 32. I don't promote many units, so I don't have that many 5*s, except the ones that are dupes that I don't know what to do with.

x_x I did recall after saying that though, that that's actually what I ment with having the exp skill around.....if someone lags behind, I'll put them in a team with a weapon exp unit if I have one, a healer and a dancer to help them get to lv40 faster after the rest of the team they were in gets to lv40.

I want to get everyone I own to 5*, even the "useless" units so I have a wide range of units to use as bonus units or for quests. I guess I could still use them as 4* but I like useing them as 5* -shrugs-

- I should promote more units for the same reason, I keep seeing units I like come up as bonus units, but I'm like... they are only 4* can't use. But I have a lot of 4* with multiplemerges from before combat manuals, and I don't want to negate those merges by 5ing them. It's such a dilemma. I keep a lot of my 4 units around for f2p strats and stuff too though. I have 200k feathers, Im hoarding them for my 5* merge projects, but I NEVER summon them OTL.