Yeah, I've definitely gone out of my way to hoard something with the expectation it will be worth something when I finally remember it...while that's much less of an issue than for someone who has gone out of their way to obtain a thing, it's still the cause for grumbling.

while i like the idea, i'm admittedly a bit disappointed that i wont be able to buy anything for TCs. as it stands i'm not much of a collector, so aside from buying books for kolja, my buying motivations are pretty low without TCs in the mix.

Really the only reason I would want any of the items would be for TC or wardrobe. I've pretty much given up on getting all the collectibles since some of them just plain do not exist in the market at all & I personally enjoy working on pet TC more than collecting. So making these collection only is pretty much useless for me, and from the comments seems like other people too.

I would rather there be a limited way in which to get the items, such as used with the crystal shop or holiday releases, or even having the items locked to my account, than to be forced to use them right off in collections.

Does this include EpiCON 2013 Points??

I don't know who to ping for ideas. I hope I'm pinging the right people...

Someone already suggested this and I can't find their post again, go me. I liked their idea of scaling up the price with each consecutive buy the same way battle challenger stats jump after every win. This could be used side by side with the current plan to move collectible items right into collections. Let's see if I can word this so it makes sense to more people than just me.

**Item 1 would have a base price of 10 million sP.

**Clicking the item would give you a menu of purchase options.

**Any purchase made with an option to place Item 1 directly into an official collection would stay at 10 million sP with no increase since there is no way for these purchases to end up in the market. (This would include food and books as feeding or reading the items to a pet sort of deletes the item.)

**Any purchase made with the "Move to Inventory" option would be subject to a price increase with every purchase (or two) since items purchased with this option can be placed on the market to be resold by individual users. First (and second) purchase would be 10 million, the second (or third and fourth) 12 million, etc.

If staff felt so inclined as to program a price cap, it could be set for say 5 or 6 times the item's original price. The shop could also offer buy-back days to "help keep up inventory" every so often for those looking to get rid of any items they bought and can't seem to sell. Maybe as an incentive for users to use the buy-back days, each item a user takes back to the shop could drop that item's price again. 1 (or 2 depending on how often the price rises) returned item(s) would mean a drop of 1 (or two) level(s) in the pricing tier strictly for the item(s) a user returned. (Say I bought 4 copies of Item 1 via "Move to Inventory". The price would be 14/18 million for my next purchase for Item 1 via that option. If I took two copies back on a buy-back day it would drop the price back to 12/16 million solely for Item 1 for me.)

I hope this made sense D:

[edit] I'm also really digging 's Dutch Auction idea they put up.

Flooding the market won't happen if you price the items high enough at the beginning (not 5mil per hibiscus but moreeeee), because only people who want the item for whatever reason will buy it. Limit people buying by increasing the prices.

Even if someone wants to buy something now to profit on it later, that's still an sp sink at the beginning, not to mention their initial loss (and risk). Yes, I get this is just to help collections out, but if you want to tackle virtually any type of item later on and make it not account bound in some way, it's going to look like this.

I am excited over this because we're getting an antique shop! The history buff in me squealed with glee over a shop filled with old (Subeta) antiques, yay!!! I can't wait to see the art for the new shop, and hope you have a lovable antiquities dealer created. :)

The whole point of this (imo) is making those super rare items more accessible to people, so just making the prices super high wouldn't really work. Like if the items is (for example) 50mill in the user shops and you make it available to buy for 25mill, yes you have decreased the price, but you haven't really made it more available for the average user...

That's why I'm hoping for the staff to find a way to make the problematic categories of items be able to be account bound as well. We have had some good suggestions so far so I'm pretty positive a solution will be found ^^

Did staff really mention it's going to be as low than 5M? Because these plushies and book ARE PRETTY DAMN ETS AT 50M in their current state.

So, I don't think staff are going to undercut and lowball that much. I'm expecting more in the 15M-20M range for the higher range items.

This is not a feature done for the "average user"

This is a feature done for people who have near complete plushie collections.

They said they wanted to make collections POSSIBLE. But they surely didn't say they wanted to make them easier and cheaper.

What if there was one general Plot Shop where like other holiday shops have tabs for years, the Plot Shop would have tabs for each plot. You'd be able to earn plot points during new plots but could choose to spend them on the new plots or old plots. As far as having an sp sink. Make it available to buy single plot points for a certain amount of sp (maybe make it a limited time thing)

This would open up those old items to new users but make it so they have to participate in the plot.

I think staff spoke against it because it means that people could just sit out a plot and buy things after, but I honestly see nothing wrong with that.

I always was for one uniform plot currency.

Not sure if this has already been suggested (mobile makes it hard to read through everything ): ).nnMaybe for minions and clothing have the items gained through whatever be made "no-trade"? Not sure if this is something that is possible, but if you make the items bound to the account, you wouldn't be able to flood the market?

, they could but it would also mean they'd have to 1.) have participated in a previous plot to have earned any points at all or 2.) if there's an sp option have spent a ton of sp. Either way they'd have to have earned it.

[edit] What if you could only trade up plot points but couldn't trade them down similar to how the battle shop works, maybe that would work better for making sure users participate in current plots. Then the sp sink option could also scale, older plot points = more sp.

The solution I had was that points should clear every year. It's not like we have multiple large plots a year.

Awesome news! I've been wanting all of those collection items for so long and had no hope of getting most of them.

I am all for this one. Of all the suggestions made...this is my favorite. You'd still have to participate in plots to get the points to buy the stuff in the first place, exactly like the quest shop, the forum shop and the referral shop. You'd just have the option of deciding which plot items you'd be getting. As an extra bonus, instead of the tiered prize system for plots we currently have (where people who did x get these prizes and so on...) and having a bunch of things no one seems to want in shops, while a select few of much coveted items being impossible to obtain ( like the survival skin with a nose, the skull comb and bow...) everybody's pretty much getting what they want. I'd imagine the plot points would be difficult enough to obtain in the first place that there would be no flooding of the market...it's not like plots happen more than a few times a year. As a gallery/TC collector and wardrobe collector, I sincerely hope this becomes a reality...I would use this system, even if it took me years and years to get all the things I wanted...currently, I'm not getting them at all, so this would be an improvement. :)

By making these items cheap you're basically pissing on the hatdwork if people in the past because I sincerely doubt these will only be there for a few days.

Lowballing items brings the price down because there's a large group of people who only want to complete a collection. No ones going to buy it from a user for 50m when it's antiqued for 2m. Not to mention, that's chump change that's hardly going to put a dent in the sP pool. Especially when most of you users posting said they'd prefer to pay (a lot) more for the actual item. But why the hell should I pay 85m for something when someone paid 2m in this shop? I'd rather just not have it because who the hell am I going to sell it to if I end up not needing it?

I'm kinda disgusted and disappointed that the prices are going to be that ridiculously low... Can't say I'm ever going to pay over a couple million for a book after this. Won't waste my time on events either, since my effort isn't worth anything anymore.

I also expect cash shop collectibles to be put in this shop after they retire because like hell ima waste real money on stuff when it'll just be lowballed later.

Guess CWs are the only thing that probably won't be a complete waste of money

, that could work too :)