if you set training time by tiers, wouldnt (almost) everyone just train health nonstop with some str/def/spd every so often? why would you training much of anything until tier

not that im complaining if it does change to that.

is that not what we do already? admittedly with exp rather than training center, in my case, but still

My concern only really refers to weaker/newer pets. Higher ranked pets dont get much from Jim so it doesnt matter. Plus, you're right, EXP/boosters is the way to go for higher statted pets.

However, for newer/weaker pets, if training time is by tiers,

I can train health until 299 at the lowest training time (tier 1). Train health until 599 at the 2nd lowest time (tier 2). Etc etc.

If I trained another stat, Im wasting time on X stat that could be spent on health, which is the more efficient/useful/worthy stat.

At the way it is, level is the equalizer. You train stats evenly (to an extent) to maximize stat gain vs time spent.

Im too tired. i hope that made sense.

no, i see what you're saying. i guess i hadn't really considered it for low level pets

(To the previous page) If we just eliminate level without any compensation, why not do the same for speed? ;) Our challengers have no visible level at all anyways. I mean, although I don't like the fact that I ultimately raised those stats for nothing, I'd still shrug and say good riddance to both level and speed. Maybe defense next? Good :P

Just removing things out without any community input or warning creates one moral hazard after another. Then what's next to be removed? Who are the stakeholders that will get the shaft?

By the way, please take into account that older battlers took time and effort to train these "useless" stats such as level because we had no choice to back then. I don't enjoy training or boosting a "tax rate or waiting time."

Since we've already agreed that level, speed and defense are going to go, maybe we can put the fashion stat I was talking about the other day back on the table, I don't know why programmers havent done that already

Subeautique Invitations could be stat boosters for fashion.

Also, I like that level is no longer part of pet tier calculation because like many people said, it does nothing in battle.

why not just take battling off the site that is where it seems to be heading anyways. 1st cap 2nd take away levels 3rd take exp away 4th take away speed [as mentioned] 5th take away defense [as mentioned]

hell why stop there give me a break.............

6th get a fashion stat! woooooo

that was not meant for admin lol more less sarcastic remark to the 1s mentioning speed and def ;)

I'm good with this change. A quick ping to the site update group would be nice though. A lot of the updates we're pinged to there don't necessarily apply to everyone anyway, so pinging about a battle update seems like it would still be all right. If staff would rather keep these pings separate though then maybe create a second ping group specifically for battle updates? It is really nice to get the added communication from staff as things are tweaked here and there though.

Seconded on a battle update ping group Although I agree with taking level away from overall pet rank. I never understood the idea of ranking pets according to who can level boost the most as opposed to who actually has the strongest pet.

We could create a battle news forum group tag. Then and/or can ping the group for any battle-related news and changes coming, or feedback.

Hell, I'll create a battle news thread if anyone wants it. I've been busy offline with Pokemon, but shit, I'll come back and make myself useful if it helps make a difference for the community. Just so we have news posted at least SOMEWHERE

There is a battle news page already. It is easy to find and the last time it was posted on was 2013.

Cranberry just said they're doing away with that.

Awesome, finally.

I didn't see that anywhere, though. Because finding anything posted by the BAs is like finding a needle in a haystack.

That, and hashtag pings hardly work so I never get anything important from the battle group

No worries. :) I'm hardly around as of late, but I still check in often enough to keep an eye as to what's going on. Or at least try to anyways.

What if the BAs created a special battle news thread that everyone could subscribe to but only the BAs could post on; then whenever they got something to announce, they make a post on the news thread. Sticky it, problems solved, neh?

Well except maybe the problem of actually using it.

Any concise place of changes or updates that go on I would aupport, if it were used by staff. I'm around a lot, I just missed that post wherever she said that. I even made a thread complaining about how useless that page is with no feedback from staff.

I really don't think level being removed is a big deal, being notified would have been nice, but I found out quickly and do not care still. I do think this thread belongs in revamp feedback though.

-shrugs- Who the hell cares about level anyways? It's better that it's removed out of ranks. Hell, I'd say get rid of it all together and run the training center by tiers. Emphasize the importance of tiers and get rid of a useless stat.