I dont really care about ranks, but sorry for those who do...I still dont really get those ranks anyway since one of my pet has higher stats then an other pet of mine yet that pets rank is higher:

Lustrous Level: 346 Health: 862 / 862 Strength: 866 Defense: 864 Speed: 862 Intelligence: 335 Tier: 7 Rank: 2,504

and:

Sheena Level: 349 Health: 871 / 871 Strength: 873 Defense: 872 Speed: 871 Intelligence: 282 Tier: 7 Rank: 2,520

Int counts as well.

Oh right yes then Lustrous has 20 more stats in total XD :P Thnx 😘

I don't see how announcing this ahead of time would have done any good, level was useless to boost before and now it's still useless lol. And there's still a level high score table of course.

That being said, there definitely needs to be a much better communication of battling things. Like for instance when the gale force scroll was changed and an admin said something after people noticed and started wondering lol. And I'm also of the opinion that the "site update" group needs to be far more utilized as well and should probably actually just be a separate news page like a "patch notes" sort of things that client-ed games have, battle news could certainly be part of that. I'm a big supporter of as much open communication as humanly possible between admins and users.

prettttty much this ^ a site update ping would've been cool, but this is hardly a gamechanger.

EXACTLY

That little "rank" thing next to your pet is supposed to rank pets from stronger to weaker. It had been flawed for a little while as level counted for some reason, but had no impact in battle. This is a bug fix more than a nerf really. And intel? That's pretty much your most valuable stat, for it not to count would be like not counting health or something.

Intel is also the most expensive stat by far, anything would be cheaper to boost. Level on the other hand costs less using boosters than what it costs to train pets in the training center. It really never quite made sense to include it in the first place in the rankings.

As many pets went up as pets went down. What would have a notice done?

If your level was somewhat normal for your stats, it makes little difference. I only went up one rank myself. If your level was close to 6000, then clearly someone has been trying to abuse the system for a while.

If your ranking position was based on having 2k more level cheaply boosted than other people, then you didn't deserve the spot sorry.

Really glad this change has been implemented - though I do kinda want more stat achievements in the future :)!

You all really are missing the point. I'm more pissed off that we were not TOLD than the fact it happened. We have a whole battle forum it could have been posted on. Battle News would be awesome if someone kept up with the damn thing. If they changed how certain weapons worked or scrolls and told no one I know a lot of you would be pissed. This is the same thing.

So what, I have to work harder to rank up my pet, no biggie, it will mean more but if you're going to make such a change to the system tell us. How many people are still wasting sP on leveling that do not know or would not have known had I not posted?

Level is the stat which never gets any love by the battle dept... except once when there was the perk system, which was interesting but rather verbose when all the bonus effects pile up during battling.

No announcement about this rank change, and no stat leeches for it. Also, level's an afterthought when people use boosters instead of training at Jim when it takes all day to train a pet. Also mentioned about how to make level more involved in battling, but didn't get into the brainstorming phase because there wasn't much interest during that time.

I think the most worthwhile of battle updates would be that level is gone. Why does it even exist? Because neopets did it, because pokemon did it? Because it was that way originally and meh, we don't feel like changing it?

Training times should depend on tier, and there should be a new tier for the impending cap raise and years later when another tier is introduced with another cap raise training times for that can be established. Or just everything new tier and above = 2 trainings per day, like that's really going to break the system or anything.

That said, I'm glad to see this finally be changed as it should have been this way from the get-go! I think a siteupdate ping would have been nice (and a battle ping), to either battle or the board where this was brought up originally.

Level is pretty pointless and should probably be removed since we have tiers to dictate training times. definitely agree

Of course this will inevitably piss people off so to offset that, should just not tell them. Kidding... kidding not really kidding... But I'm all for level disappearing and getting absolutely nothing in return and training times depending on tier.

Yeah level totally served a purpose originally, but there's nothing it does that tiers can't do. It makes more sense to me, too-- go up a tier, you're pet is stronger thus you get less sessions per day. I've been on subeta 9+ years, most of which I've been training pets and I still honestly can't tell ya when pets get less sessions (only that it involves _50 level).

Tiers, though, much simpler.

I also wouldn't expect any return or anything for it being gone for good. I'd consider not having to train it anymore just to train the other stats the biggest gift.

Unless of course they plan to bring back perks (but I highly doubt that xD especially considering the level some pets have now).

Level's also used to calculate training cost. Although with the proposed tier system, you could probably use the total number of stats to calculate training cost.

I can't support no compensation for wiping out level though, because people spent tons of time and resources to train it. Maybe get some exp or sP back for it? And what are we going to do with stat boosters that gives them out then? Give exp to the pet that uses it?

I think we got a bit off track from the OP here. I was responding to the previous few posts which suggested level to not exist, a "what if" situation.

OKAY, STILL THE WEAKEST PET ONSITE.

Seriously, my battle pet dropped by about 20 ranks.

that.. is... AWESOME! and totally made me smile. XD

we should be compensated for the new level not counting in rank by removing level completely and having training time by tiers...

I kinda like that prioritization, my mouth is closed and smiling now :)

Off topic but related to the post by If weapon slots were like wardrobe outfit slots, maybe it could be setup so we could buy additional slots with EXP, or CSC, or sP