This.
I was one of the top scorers (either or ) and it looks like my "special" prizes were a Blacklight Potion and a Spectrum Potion. Two items that have been on the site for years, both of which I already have sitting in my Vault.
I... I just can't believe that. I guess I appreciate that they're potions and they're at least not worthless, but I can't believe that someone that supported the winning band and submitted just a single score would have gotten fourteen more prizes than I did, and would have gotten even more if I hadn't supported a genre winner. And then on top of that I didn't get any special (as in new/unique) prizes for playing that stupid game for three or four hours straight.
I enjoyed the event up until this point, but the prize structure is just completely ass-backwards. You should have rewarded people's effort's first, and rewarded the popularity contest aspect second, not the other way around.
[edit] I supported a genre winner so I got ten prizes (including the potions, which just, seriously? Who thought that was a good idea?). If I hadn't, I would have gotten eight. A supporter of the winning band who literally submitted one score got nineteen, and someone who didn't submit ANY scores would still have gotten eighteen. Just to put it in perspective.
As I said, I went into more details in my form, but seeing other people post, I can't not repeat that I wish there had been a prize shop with all the items instead.
These just make me so sad.
I'm a little disappointed here. My band worked hard to become a genre winner. And yet, we get far fewer prizes than someone who just happened to pick HNR. They didn't have to necessarily even play a game, and they still get all the prizes (well except for the game ones, obviously). So next time, I guess instead of trying the plan should be to go to the forums, pick the band with the longest thread, support them by clicking one button, and get all the prizes for literally 30 seconds of work. (And please know, I realize that this might not have even happened, but it could, and they would have gotten more prizes than people who legitimately tried. And I am also not trying to take away from HnR, they were a great band. I'm just confused by this).
I feel sad that each genre winner didn't get an exclusive item that reflects their band :(
Exactly. I was pretty bummed to see that H&Rs got 6 specially designed prizes and even Granny Smiths got two.
They aren't bad prizes, but it really just seems like oh well try again next time to the other genre winners.
I had a pretty positive view of the event up until now, and now I just... I don't know what to think about it anymore. :I I spent so many hours on that game for absolutely nothing! I could've just picked any random band, submitted a single point for their favor(or actually no, I wouldn't even had needed to do that) and gotten multiple times more prizes than I did now -I just... and hearing about what the top three scorers got makes me almost happy that I didn't end up restarting the game every time I got only a thousand points just so I could try again. <:/ These players got hundreds of times higher scores during their winning rounds alone than your average user did(not to mention the thousands of points they got during some of their non-winning rounds, too!) and the prizes they're getting are in absolutely no way fair for them.
I agree with Walrus, the prize-structure is completely ass-backwards. Why encourage people to work on something if you're then going to turn around and instead decide to only gift people based on how big a crowd they squeezed themselves into? Having a point shop that rewarded people points depending on how well they did in the game would have been fair, what we got here is not.
Again this talk of crowds, need I remind you that horns n roses had about 100 less supporters than the runner ups. I know this is not what you guys are talking about but it sounds bad, like we only won because there was a bunch of us, not because we tried really hard.
I really thought the highscores would get something new tho
and as far as the genre winners go i'm sorry but i see it more like... a pleasantry? they didn't actually win 1st nor 2nd place. but i remember they did say there would be prizes for making a band and for the band being a finalist so it's valid the discussion
i think the idea people were having of having forum titles for the bands would be cute but i don't know how those would be distributed aren't forum titles from achievements? i don't know if there's still time to do those
I know I posted this in another thread too but I'm also disappointed by the way these prizes worked out. I don't understand why someone who supports a winning band gets more prizes than the people who are genre winning band members. I know that the winners wouldn't have won without their fans but the actual bands did a lot of work behind the scenes (graphics, stories, has) and onsite (raffles, advertising, ect) to get members and people to play for them. It was really hard and I was blown away and so excited that we placed after the initial cut and then thrilled when we won the genre! I never for a second considered that my band wouldn't get an exclusive prize or forum title. After all the thing with Peekaboo was that you would get prizes based on participation. And we were in the spotlight, majorly participating in every way we could. I just don't get this.
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I'm not talking about bands winning or not. All the winner bands deserve prizes, they were all great and worked hard. I'm talking about how unfair it was to give a heckload of prizes to whoever joined the H&R compared to those who worked hard making it to the finals and some even being genre winners.
I kind of just feel really bad right now because I encouraged friends to support my band. Like... some worked incredibly hard to get to the point of genre winner and, to be honest, they got shit in return. Some worked harder than me and even I got more items than them. I mean... if I had known I definitely would have redirected them to HnR. I think most people knew they were the popular vote for winning since the first day, or at least that was my opinion. So I knew we were just working towards being the genre winner and idk, I feel horrible that what I was telling my friends to work for was for my band to be mentioned on a news post and added into an item description.
If I had known these prizes would have been given based on who they picked rather than how much effort they put into their favorite/friends I would've found a way to just redirect everyone to Granny Smiths or HnR because this isn't fair for them and I don't get multiples of a freaking candy bowl and book to give to all of our supporters who got higher scores than most HnR supporters.
ps, I'm a little scatter brained right now, but I would like the say that I'm not upset with any of the winning bands or their supporters. More kind of just upset with myself and staff, so I'm sorry if I offended anyone. D: And I'm so sorry bby! Staff may have given you dumb prizes, but you still got the best prize of all! The prize of my heart!
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I hope this is a grave reminder for the future and they change it.
I certainly don't want to discount the effort you guys put in. I think giving one or two prizes to supporters independent of how much effort they put in, would have been fine. But that wasn't the case, your supporters could have gotten eighteen prizes for literally choosing to support you and doing nothing else. So anyone who joined the band and stopped there, or just submitted a couple low scores and called it a day, was able to coast on the effort that the rest of you put in.
For me, the issues is the complete lack of balance between rewarding those who picked the right band, versus those who put effort in.
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I really feel for the band members of the finalists who didn't win even genre.
They were four guaranteed prizes for the finalist band members: A supporter of HnR who didn't submit even one single score was given SIXTEEN more prizes than a band member of a finalist:
If I was any of the members of the other 24 bands that didn't get first, runner-up, or genre winner, I would be wishing my band hadn't made finalists. As it is now, I'm glad my band didn't, because I got two more prizes for supporting a genre finalist than I would have gotten otherwise.
I'm with that the prizes would have been better off being awarded based on effort than on who made the lucky pick. On a personal level, I also would have preferred a prize shop, because I wouldn't have picked the Charlie plushie and pop poster (that Ghostly is so much cuter, my goodness).
Some people have said it, I am just too lazy to quote. But my band that was a part of made it to the finals but didn't win the genre or anything. I knew based on support that it wouldn't win but I still tried my hardest. However, with the way prizes were given, if they ever do this again, people are going to go for the popular one. They aren't going to try for whatever one they like the best because as far as prizes goes it is much better to be one of the supporters for the winning band than to be in even remotely a band that made it to the finals. Which I think is crappy when you are sad your band made it to the finals and it would have been better to be a supporter for another. :/
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I think having tiers even on the winning band's prizes would be a good solution then?
I didn't support any of the winning teams in any genre and I got a whopping total of 6 prizes. I played that dumb ass game long enough to earn the sticker so I was in whatever X top percent got it so that proves I put quite a bit of effort into this event. My effort got me nothing since I wasn't in a popular band. Well I guess I won't be supporting my favorite teams in any future event, looks like I'm going with the popular crowd.
I think it is a great idea to theme items around the winners and the themed ones are great. However, they should not have only been given out based on who you supported but by how much work you put into the event.
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I do think this could have been handled better, at least in terms of how items were given out to my band's supporters.
Maybe if you simply chose to support us you'd get the badge sticker and the vinyl, and then the other prizes would scale based on how many points you scored. For instance, if you score over 1000 points total (that should be around 50 points a day or so, which seemed to be the average??), you get horns or a different one of the wearables?? Not that I don't think our supporters didn't deserve what they got, I just think it would help to make it seem a little more fair to people who did not support us.
The flyers and plushies were given to our supporters since staff wanted to make them less limited. Which is fine by me (I didn't even know we were going to get them when I first saw them, to be honest; I had expected to go pay millions for them). But maybe they could have also been on a tiered basis for people who did not support the winners of those genres??
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had a neat idea of there being a forum title for members of bands (I don't know if it would just be for winners of genre + grand champ and runner up, or for all finalist bands) to get titles, such as "Granny Smiths Member" or "Tempest Sky Member". n___n Maybe the supporters could have one too??
Supporters of Horns and Roses SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN GRANNY SMITH ITEMS + EVERY OTHER ITEM. At the very least, all you had to do was click a friggin button.
Horns and Roses items were rewarded to the band and their supporters only. The same should go for the Granny Smiths. You didn't get us to runner-up status, so you don't technically deserve the items. Sorry it sounds so harsh but that's how I feel.
I tried to say a lot more than I did in the event feedback dilly, but it wouldn't submit for me and I ended up having to refresh the page and I was too dumb to open a new tab and lost everything I said. Which is probably for the best because I'm pretty sure staff would see my username and go LOLOL -DEELETTE- so haha.
First and foremost, I hated (no, not disliked, hated) this event. I really did not enjoy it, and this event literally did not support fun at all. It supported you better pick the winning team or you're SOL which is evident by the fact that some people like spent hours... HOURS playing one game for points, and got less prices than someone who could have played a few games for the winning team and got EIGHT exclusive items. That is ridiculous. Ridiculous.
DISCLAIMER BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING ELSE: I don't mean ill-will to the winning team. I don't want their heads on stakes, I don't want them to lose their items, they had a snazzy theme and they signal boosted the hell out of their band. I don't think they deserved as many exclusive items as they received, unless the bulk of those items were ALSO put in the cash shop like the prizes were from the CW contest, but they definitely deserved at least a few. No other event in the history of subeta has awarded EIGHT top things to anyone. Even the pandemic plot just gave the love shield and the v2 skin. Not eight things.
Problem 1. There were 30 some odd choices to pick from when picking the team you wanted to support. That's FAR too many considering if you didn't pick the WINNING team you were SOL in the bulk of prizes department, and considering how many prizes they got-- this is very unfair.
This plot didn't support having a fun time. Instead of picking a fun theme, having a good time getting people to support your band.. this was literally just pick the winner. If you made your own band that made it to the finals unless you won you were basically SOL. If you didn't support the winners, you were SOL. Earning 1 point for the winning team should NEVER give you more prizes than someone who spent HOURS playing a very obnoxious (endless) game. Not fun, didn't enjoy.
There was only ONE way to earn points. The game wasn't capped. So for me, this game gave me anxiety, so my top score was something like 50 gangsta points. On the other hand, people can and did sit there for HOURS playing this game for extraordinary amounts of points. Also very unfair, and screamed "if you suck at this game, this event is done for you peasant". If the game had been capped at, say, 500 points per game-- this might not have been so bad. But not everyone could play the game, and not everyone has hours to sit and play said game.
Originally, what I thought this event was going to be, was like a restock/battle war. Where there was going to be 2-3 NPC bands, and then we had to pick a team to support and either restock, play select games, or battle, for points to support our team.
Instead, we got 30+ user made band options, and one game to play. End of story. Then, the winning band got eight unique items, and everyone else got a kick in the butt.
If this event ever goes down again, I'ma just hang out in the food trucks and wishing shrub, then wait for the band with the most hype and join them because if I make my own band (that isn't the top runner) I'm screwed. If I join a runner up, I'm screwed. If I try, I'm screwed (unless I'm in that leading band)... yeah. Might as well just see who looks like they'll win and jump in that boat. Which is TERRIBLE. That is a TERRIBLE image to give, when the entire point of an event should be fun??? But why have fun if you'll have to buy everything from a small group of people if you do?? Counter productive much?
Don't event get me started on the VIP fiasco. I think half the site was done with this event before it even started thanks to that.
tl;dr: this would have been better if: