This is probably the unpopular opinion, but I like the fact that I can get 200K from playing Caliph's Tomb. I like the fact that I actually make money playing games that are fun to do, instead of sitting around trying to sell Wizard tokens. I'm not saying I'm happy with the way the quests changed. I took a tally before the switch and I could pull a 250K profit from Mori/Nori quest. Now...well I haven't done the math because I'm trying to save my sp and don't want to risk losing it for some items that sit in my shop for ten years. But I like the idea that I can pull sp in from other places that don't require me to draw/write for the rich CSC buying players. Not saying I don't like writing for them, but it gets depressing to have to write 1,000 words for a small amount of sp when everyone else is rolling in it. :/

Millions from sag daily my ass, I'm lucky if I clear a single million from him in a day. And even at that, it's quite a few days before I'll get near a Natasha or Blackmoon Warplate. Why do I even bother explaining to you how frustrating it is to be a user, you have no clue what it's like from your perspective, you've never been one. I'm not bothering any explaining my frustrations with this site lately any longer. You're going to just keep fucking up the site and making it more difficult regardless cause another user with a wallet full of cash will come along. My walls are listening to me better than you ever have. Good day.

Matal's Jewels is the only one I usually play at the end of my day. I used to love Suteks Tomb on Neo and it is kind of the same. It's my starting money for the next morning to put my pets into training.

I guess I don't want to play mind games, have to pay too much attention , because, when I'm here, I'm watching TV, so I don't want to play Memory or Divine Discs. Tubular Tiles takes much to long, I can't do Cybill Sledding.

Please. Please for the love of god tell me that's not true. Restocking is my most favorite thing to do on the site and if restocking goes, I'm done.

I like it here. I don't want to be done. :c I just want to restock and have a good time.

(ngl, i will legit start crying and be completely heartbroken)

One thing that killed enjoyment for many original neopets players was the complete nerffing of quests, and a complete focus on game-to-earn. Subeta isthe quickly going down that path.
Not everyone can play games (health reasons), but everyone can click-to-quest.

A 20k payout on Calyph's requires a full win game, which does not happen in under a minute, or in one round. It takes several. :P

I play the game daily. The bottom right game (the easiest one) often takes me less than 1 minute a game, and rarely results in a loss. It's still way faster than questing, and a guarenteed profit. I do wish the cards were bigger though. It's hard to read them at times

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I completely agee though on the millions from Saggi? The last few times I tried his quests I was lucky to squeak out 400k

I can get it in under a minute. Technically speaking, I can get 3 games in under 2 minutes. If I win all of those I'm having a good day. However questing takes me a good 20 minutes to do all of one kind and a lot of ctrl+c/ctrl+v that kills my hands. I'm not saying Subeta should go all game because really that killed Neopets, but I like that the games are updated and have a reasonable payout.

Actually I clear a board on caliph's tomb in about two minutes, so it's not long in the way other games are. It's actually one of the shortest. I usually make 200K in 20 minutes or less

That's good for you, my ga expires in 5 days and I'm done around here. Good luck.

Have fun! :) Tell the real world I said hi :)

Wait, the average user has 9.8m? I'm lucky to have 5m on me at any given time (an on really, really good days, I somehow have more than 20m), and I do as many quests and games per day that I can. I guess I'm below average. lmao

I do get that the site wants to try new things and fix up certain parts and try and make this place fun for everyone without making it a bore. But yeah sometimes it sucks that the quests are getting low sP pay outs. At least could you change the sP pay outs for when the quests become the WEEKEND special quests? I mean that shouldn't cause a huge backlash right? 3 days of just a bit more sP then it's back to normal .... that won't be so bad... or am I just being optimistic about something that well... will have a bad outcome....

Wizard Quests give out sP on those days I don't know about others since I never do them. If that's the case I can agree why not just even slightly increase it for those days. Make doing them a lot more worth while.

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Oh I know he gives out at least the max I've seen was 26k. But most other quests for the weekend barely give out 5k sP rewards when they are the weekend special quest.

Huh never knew that. Even if it was just like Item Reward + Sp Reward + a flat 10k bonus for doing it on the weekend it'd be worth it.

Thanks for posting that payout info on the games! I play Calyph's Tomb daily and it generally takes me less than 20 minutes to earn that 200k sP. Good to see there are other profitable games I could be doing too.

On topic, making money on Subeta is really not that hard. I seem to earn about 500k from my Saggi quests (when I bother to do them), Shinwa's quests are VERY profitable, selling frag Crystals is profitable, selling Wiz tokens is profitable, several games are very profitable, etc. Even if you never ever wanted to play the games on Subeta, just doing those three main quests every day would probably net you a few mil or more each week. My vault has been hovering around 10mil sP pretty much since I started playing 2 months ago, and that's mostly because I'm spending sP as fast as I'm making it. If I actually bothered to quest/game/RS/price my shop regularly and save what I made I'm sure I could get up to 50mil in a matter of a few weeks.

I understand that it can be frustrating, especially if you aren't a fan of quests, but there are a lot of ways to make sP that don't require a lot of time to do. And if you aren't willing to spend at least half an hour a day to do some quests or play a few games, then I don't think you have room to complain about not being able to make money.

Truth be told, when you complete a quest, unless you restocked the items, more sP is entering the economy than what your profit is. For example, if you spend 50K on items for Saggi and he rewards you 70K and you bought all of those items from another user's shop, then although you only made 20K profit, 70K more sP has entered the economy.

Burrero Basket Bonanza, Caliph's Tomb, and Divine Discs can all pretty easily make you over 200K in less than 25 minutes.

No problem! Quests can get tedious after awhile, and the games seem to move much faster for me. Burrero Basket Bonanza takes about 3 minutes per game, a score of 2500 will give you 25,000 sP which is great, but it gets really boring cause it moves slow.

The bug game (if you like mini heart attacks ;p) dishes out 9K if you bother to play it long enough. Thing is, I have very little pity for people who complain they are "poor." I spent years complaining that I was "poor" all over the forums on Neopets. The one time I shut up about it and played games instead I made a million in a week. It is comparatively easy to make sp here. That would be like me saying "if I stopped using the forums I could make 10-20 million in a week" or more. While I'm not saying that the forums are bad, if you're really sick of being poor then go play games. I know most of us cannot be on here 24/7, but playing for just a little bit a day is not 24/7. Admit it, most of us pop back and forth from facebook to here looking for alerts (for me it's email but same thing.) It takes a small amount of time to do two quests or play a game, reguardless of payout, and in the long run the items you get from Wiz/Mori/Maleria can be fragged for significant sp. You just need to look at it like my sister told me: "Well even if I only get one point for that item, it means I'm one point closer." And she is phenomenal at every game she puts her mind to.