Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

To everyone saying that this is inappropriate and may scar children on the site: Please. I joined when I was twelve. I already knew all about drugs, sex, hookers, swearing, crime, death, gore, etc. etc. freakin' etc. This site didn't influence me or raise any awkward questions with my parents. In fact, quite the opposite. It taught me what a sextant was and what a USB port looked like, and those are just a few of the things I learned.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ah, the caterpillars will be thrilled XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Worrrrrrrrrd!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

"...however does it have to have the stoned look on them?...can that be like an option to have or not?...i know i am such a downer...but seriously i love the artistic qualities of it...i do not like the stoned look of it."

You can get that woozy feeling without it being illegal. It's that you're breathing in the smoke, which is replacing some of the oxygen you intake as you inhale from the hose. So because of the lower oxygen, you relax and get that slightly light-headed feeling, which goes away the second you breathe in normally again.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

... YES. IT'S FREAKING WEARABLE. I LOVE YOU. -spazzes and goes to restock one, kthanks-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't even know what a "hookah"Is but its beautifully drawn.Good job.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Subeta states that users either need to be 13 or have parent's permission. It's clearly a PG-13 site, and I've seen many PG-13 movies with smoking references and in some cases blatantly showing people smoking.

That said... I LOVE THESE. Nice work, artists, both the item and its wearable layer are wonderful. Now I'm just going to have to stalk Home Appliances or hope for the user shop prices to go down by a bit...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOLOLOL Omg, I love you guys. I am going to collect of all these. For tobacco use only... pfft. C:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ahurhur! No wonder there are so many petitions and butt-hurt parents! ;D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Um, have you seen the Alcohol? It's illegal to persons under 21 in the US, but yet it's an item. Just b/c something is "illegal" to some in RL, that doesn't mean Subeta should only cater to them. I happen to quite like the new hookas. The are fabulous! xD

I know =], and I think alcohol is fantastic. But the problem is a lot of kids under 18 and under 21 for each respectful category still do this stuff because its so widely popularized. I dont think someone heres gonna go 'oh hey I never knew about hookas I should go try one', but it is kinda further glorification of it, you get what I mean? I just think theres too many stupid kids on the internet who will think because somethings made by a site its an awesome thing to do underage.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">The sale of tobacco to persons under 18 is still illegal here in the states, and even though you have a 13+ limit, You have a huuge population of players between that gap... its not the best choice of items you guys could publish but thats your call.

That doesn't mean the items do not exist for people between 13 and 17, do they

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Stoned?? OMGOSH, maybe smoke is just in their eyes.. for shame!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i meant to say "against illegal drugs" not "again"...stupid typo demon getting me

i want to make it clear that i love this site...ok?...and i understand that hookahs are not necessarily for anything illegal unless people do use it for that purpose...but me personally not wanna use my hard earned subeta points on a stoned looking hookah and was wondering if it could be optional the face look is all...or have ones that are non-stoned looking options...that all ...thanks for listening

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

very pretty and i like the look of them and the smokey rainbow cloud it gives off that i seen on some of them i seen...however does it have to have the stoned look on them?...can that be like an option to have or not?...i know i am such a downer...but seriously i love the artistic qualities of it...i do not like the stoned look of it...i am very very very much again illegal drugs and even drinking too much...i seen what it does to people...even prescription drugs when not taken as prescribed by a doctor can be dangerous...so yeah...if the high/stoned look was taken away from the item then it would be perfect ...when i see all the previews of them then i will see if i will save up points for one 'cause i want one without a stoned look but with the pretty rainbow cloud and lamp thingie

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

woot! well if a hookahs not a bong fine...but i am sure i could make my hookah into one looks for duct tape

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

yeee I love lebenese people

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I still can't get my hands on one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

hookahs! ahh snap, you are awesome, keith. There's a great hookah lounge in San Diego called the Egyptian Tea Room, and their chocolate mint flavor is bomb.

and for all of you griping about it being illegal...it isn't. the hookah lounge I go to is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to a police substation. stfu it's legal for 18+ just like cigarettes (and far less harmful)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

WANT!

Do they do anything?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love it! Hookah is one of my favourite works (being similiar to hooker, ahem). It's very Middle Eastern from what I know.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hookahs aren't illegal, as previously stated they're for tobacco use and decorative purposes The only item directly related to weed on this site is the Rainbow Herb Shield. These are great--I want all of them!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

These comments crack me up. If you dont like them, dont get them.. more for us who do like them. As for this being a kid safe site or whatever.. PLEASE its not Keiths job to make this a fluffy neopets site. ITS THE PARENTS JOB to raise their children. As a parent I always check out and play a site for a few weeks before I allow my daughter to. Adults also wish to find these kinds of sites to play on, and enjoy the freedom of creating HAs with humour.
So Keith keep it up, there are plenty of safe sites for the younger kids to play on, allow us to be us.. this site IS very very safe.. you have done very well making it as such.. dont change a thing.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Cool water bongs..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The sale of tobacco to persons under 18 is still illegal here in the states, and even though you have a 13+ limit, You have a huuge population of players between that gap... its not the best choice of items you guys could publish but thats your call.

Um, have you seen the Alcohol? It's illegal to persons under 21 in the US, but yet it's an item. Just b/c something is "illegal" to some in RL, that doesn't mean Subeta should only cater to them. I happen to quite like the new hookas. The are fabulous! xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"> Keith: On the registration page, we specifically ask if you're 13 years (or older), or have the permission of your parent. I think that sends the message.

Yes, I recall seeing that. I was only saying as far as this 'debate' goes tht limiting the access to the site to only 13 and up may get the nay-sayers off your back.

My site is based on EA Games Sims 2. It is PG-13 based and no one under 13 is allowed to register, even with parental consent.

I am not complaining at all. I enjoy the site a lot. I just wasn't aware of the adult material until I stumbled across it. I thought it was more because of the forum, which my 8 year old doesn't really have an interest in.

Since I have discovered the potentially non-child friendly items, I just sit with him and direct his path. He has really enjoyed reading to his pet and learning to battle.

Thanks for a fun site, it has been something nice for my son and I to share together.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Dear subeta team, with this item you have officially reduced me to tears of joy. My e-babies are yours, that is all.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The sale of tobacco to persons under 18 is still illegal here in the states, and even though you have a 13+ limit, You have a huuge population of players between that gap... its not the best choice of items you guys could publish but thats your call.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

XD If these are wearable the smoke effect could be quite pretty though. Still it's a good treasure item alone.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

SUBETATEAM:

you. are. great.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ahem -steps up on soap box- Do you people not realize that there are hookah bars all over the place? Quit complaining and dont buy it if you dont like it.

Also I would like to point out something else... Wikipedia defines it as this: A hookah operates by water filtration and indirect heat. It can be used for smoking herbal fruits, tobacco, or cannabis. Typical hookah bars use the flavored tobacco as cannabis isnt legal so I say three cheers for the hookah. HOOKAH! HOOKAH! HOOKAH!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Neat item. I don't really care for it because of what it is but its still neat >> I won't buy it the same with the baby fetus pops >> I just don't care for them so won't buy them -shrugs- Great art work though!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;"> My suggestion (as a site owner too) would be to limit access to the site for people 13 and older.

On the registration page, we specifically ask if you're 13 years (or older), or have the permission of your parent. I think that sends the message.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOL HOOKAHS. Awesome, I'm a big fan of apple shisha myself <3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I want one! Stinken shop every time I go t there are none

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love these!! They're very well drawn... I love the fact that Subeta caters to the more "adult" crowd... It's just awesome...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hookah's can be used for tobacco -shrug- I went to a hookah bar in Chicago. -doesn't smoke, just seemed like a neat experience-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I THOUGHT THESE WERE LAMPS AT FIRST.... NO, SERIOUSLY. hahahaaaa shows how much I know. i love the face. and the rainbow cloud omg. I WANT THESE K. now to stalk the home appliances.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Hmm... I'm wondering if any of the people posting rude comments even know what hookah's are xDD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I just got a red one from maleria and am looking to sell it, funny to see this debate, I knew would have to happen

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I LOVE THESE. Thank you, artists, for making Subeta one of my most unique virtual pet website EVAR.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Looks like I win this bet! Haha, pay up suckers!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Quote by Pandachild: I don't think Subeta should support drug use. :/

The site is PG-13, it wasn't made for little children at all. It's not supporting at all, you don't have to buy it. People do drugs, drink vodka, and all that stuff, not because Subeta made the items. Honestly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

These are silly. -wearing one-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Posted by PandaChild

I don't think Subeta should support drug use. :/

I think you need to read the comments before you post. As has already been stated by many people, these are HOOKAHS, not BONGS. A hookah was even used (as mentioned below in a comment on this board) by the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland. They are also used as decorative items in a home and are quite beautiful. I also took a trip to London last August and my hotel was near an Arabian/Muslim area and people were sitting at tables outside the cafes using hookahs in plain sight. There's nothing illegal about what is put in them. To ASSUME is to make an ASS out of you and ME...ever heard the saying?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOL this butthurt is just ridiculous. I have never smoked anything IRL, but I want these items because a) they're really well-drawn and b) I am amused by the HA previews for them xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by