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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Great effort by the artist, but is a sad revamp of the Malticorn we all know. You know, fuzzy, cuddly, not so disasterous?

I have no problem with it that's big... It's just a LOT less fluffier, and the look it's giving scares me with out it [fluffy]

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

*culpa

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Matted fur, goiterous hooves, multiple snakelike appendages and an ice cream cone upended on its head is suppose to be an improvement to our nice, Subeta artist's work? I don't have to be nice about other peoples supposed "improvements" do I? If so, mea coulpa. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Its an improvement, so I voted new, but I really dislike it. : I know you'll hate me for it, but I really don't know why...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Love it. The hair fluff could use a bit of adjustment, though; I preferred it longer as it was. The rest of it = awesome. I just hope they keep the general mood/feel of the graveyard though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Why are that things legs as thick as its body?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I still don't like the Malticorn species and probably never will. It looks a million times better than the old one but, The ears seem a little long somehow, the tail would probably look better closer to the body, and The hooves look like they're too small.

Kudos to the artist, though. Job well done!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i like the new version, as long as the 'colored' ones such as: reborn, scribble, angelic dont change much.just in case someone still reads this >_> i only saw the poll today -8th-

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the spots, but then again they were added to the Ruffie. And I do really like Typhoon's redline, but I still adore this revamp.

daniig: The gradient idea is alright. Why did you change the color of the hooves and horn? I think the gold gives it more color. it stands out more with it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

My version of the malticorn revamp, changed a bunch of things, and instead of the spots (which seem to be causing a lot of disagreement) I did a gradient on its leg. I promise, this will be my last comment on the malticorn revamp xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Actually, when dogs AND horses get -really- aggresive, the ears flatten a lot. Just google a snarling wolf or an aggresive horse and you'll see what I mean. There's a difference with "dropping" and "flattened". Dropping would mean relaxed, but flattened is the complete opposite.

Just my two cents on body language.

Also, The swirls on its fur look really odd, they are in straight hair! Look at the lines that describe the flow of the hair, it's definetely straight hair.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well, maybe not so much aggressive as just plain moody, then. Whatever it is, the lowered ears suit the Reborn Malticorn, but the perked ears suit the common colors. The current pet's expression and entire posture radiates alert, bright, bouncy springy-ness; the Reborn isn't meant to be cheery like that, which is why it can get away with less "happy" posturing. (Besides, Reborn is a special color, and certain features of special colors should stay unique to those colors - including the ears in this case, and maybe the curved horn. If anything in the revamp should be based on the Reborn Malticorn, it should be the overall physique, not just special little details like that.)

But again, just something to consider. Doubt it'll actually be considered, though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

For some reason I still prefer the old one better, though I can't exaxtly pinpoint why. It's definately an improvement from the last poll attempt.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Arent perked ears a sign of attentiveness, alertness, and agression, while droopy or flat backed ears are a sign of defensiveness, cautiousness, and submission? =/ I know my dog relaxes his ears when he's happy.
I think the only reason a dog would cutely perk their ears is if they hear the can opener. xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

A little late, but just a random thought about the ears, since there's a lot of debate over perked vs. drooped...

I know the ears here were based on the Reborn Malticorn, which was an awesome idea in theory, because it IS an awesome pet. But then I got to thinking, perhaps the perky ears are more like the default look, and the ears of the Reborn are droopy/flattened as a sign of aggression? A lot of dogs do that... and it would look kinda silly to have this big fiery glaring awesome Reborn pet with cutely perked-up ears. So it would still make sense to keep the perked ears on the common colors and let the Reborn continue to be its badass aggressive self?

Just something to consider.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the new look as it has indeed improved, but here's what I have problems with.
The nose. Before it was like a sheep's nose, there wasn't a big black mass of dognose covering it's face. The black nose makes it look like a tiny-headed ruffie. I think that's what bothers me most about everything.
Also, I miss the straight, silver horn on it's head aswell as the wild hair on top. the 'hair' now looks like a nicely groomed toupÃ© rather than a floppy carefree sort of hairstyle.
I just think it now looks more doggish instead of sheepish, which is what I always envisioned the malticorn ro resemble. I know, apparently i'm totally off because is Maltese is a breed of dog, and apparently thats what it's based off of? But the nose of the old one was not of a dog, nor a horse. xD

I like the revamp, i'm just not used to the curved, golden horn, the straight hair on it's head, or the nose. I dont think i'll ever get used to the new nose. xD Nice job, artists. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

In all honesty I don't like the front right leg it seems to lack bend in a certain place and also I don't love the head I really like it with Typhoon_Muffin's edits

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think it looks gorgeous! I think the legs looks beautiful, and I love the spots on the back! I like the shading in the hair and how it's different from the shading on the rest of the body. The swirl marks on the fluff and the shinning gold hooves are a nice touch as well.

The tail is what really sold me, I adore the ravishing curl and the fluff hanging from it reminds me of various types of dog breeds that have those kinds of tails (such as the Samoyed.)

I had actually just finished reading Peter S. Beagle's book, The Last Unicorn a few weeks ago and the description of the unicorn stated a lot of things that are present in this image, such as the fluff on the ends of the feet, the neck and the body structure. So in that respect, this revamp greatly pleases me.

I wouldn't change the image at all myself, I think it is absolutely precious the way it is (and I am still undecided what pet will fill my twenty-second pet slot. But this one is so adorable, I would surely have to get one if this revamp goes through)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's gorgeous, don't get me wrong, but I think the horn needs a leeeetle help with the horn. As in, less old rotting bones and more pizazz like a shiny, spiral horn that does not curve. And a little more fluff like a real Maltese. is now tempted to adopt a Malticorn

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

lawl Its not just the Ruffie, Kora, Kanis, and Manchu that have the same boring pose with one leg lifted, but the Keeto, Legeicand, Paralix and Bovyne have one as well. I guess all the originality has been sucked out of the subata art staff :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Its great art, I just don't think it fits well with this specie of pet. The chest and tail could use a little more work (As in more fluffy) and the ears i dont like at all. I it looks like a ruffie with a horn stuck on its head. It looks like its limping and if you want to put movement, position the leg a little more up and angular. The eyes are :/, but overall its okay. I do prefer the original, but I could take this one if I had to. Not saying its bad art, its just not how I would like to see it. (:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Centurymon: Thank you! So glad I wasn't the only one to notice this :3

In seriousness, how many more Subeta pets must end up with formless ears, blank faces, chunky gelled-up fur, boxlike bodies, too-thin tapering limbs, randomly added spots/stripes for an excuse to slather on more "accent color," and one raised forepaw "to add movement"? Subeta pets used to be unique. The Malticorn used to be unique. This revamp goes through, it'll be just another Ruffie/Kanis/Kora/lapdog crossbreed. Some staffer on a previous revamp poll said "we'll never dumb down out pets," but that's exactly what's happening - everything gets more and more generic, and less unique.

To keep the Malticorn looking like a Malticorn: keep the slightly perked ears, the bright smile, the equine curved back and rounded belly, the widely flared fur around the hooves, and the pure solid-colored coat (Maltese are pure white, right? and the pet IS Maltese-based, right?). It's that simple.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

..are you serious.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The ears are odd but over all the new is very nice. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Lawl. Oh Paint, the pose isn't just the same as the Ruffie. It's ALSO the same as the Kora, the Kanis, and the Manchu. c: That equals 5 pets that Rah did where the poses were all the same. xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

That's definitely the most amazing revamp I've ever seen. I do agree with the changes Quadricat suggested, though. It just looks too ruffyish.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Uh, woah. I'm kind of ..woah haha. The legs are really nice, the fur there. I like Falorie's redline for the a lot though

I don't know about anyone else, but the hair reminds me of a sloppy toupee. It's as if it's falling off the malticorn's head.

Also, the butt spots..they don't really flow with the rest of the malticorn's design. I think of some..cotton candy swirly sheep thing when I think of malticorns, and the butt spots remind me too much of a giraffe. I thought the malticorn was perfect without any intricate markings.

And yes I agree-- looks a lot like the ruffie. Maybe a pose like the chibi malticorn or just all feet on the floor would look nice too?

The face is bothersome, but most others have pointed and critiqued that so I wont (:

Just in case here's a redline, mainly for the hair (floof i guess)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Just wondering if anyone else noticed that this pet has the exact same pose as the ruffie save a slight angle difference o_o;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm SO picky about malticorns. The only things I like on this one are the legs and the spots on her back. I don' love the face or the stiff stature at all. The malticorn is flowing to me. I love how the fur flares at the bottom, that's one of my favorite parts of her. But the head and neck fur just isn't what I'd go for. Like it better than the last revamp attempt though. ._.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's cute, but the graphic effects aren't as great on the fur/hair, whatever as the original. But it's the best version yet

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I probably should have said what I like about it. The tail looks good and the eyes look better as the purple.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The face looks too much like a Kanis. I can't exactly figure it out but everything just looks off. Like maybe it's too tall/skinny... I don't know.

I really like the reborn Malticorn. It's my favorite stage... and they look completely different. I guess that's it. It just doesn't look like a Malticorn.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love it much more than the older revamp.

I would like to see the legs a little more... Slopey. If you look at Reborn and Graveyard, as well as the old common colors, the Malticorn has a frame of a ladder. That is, it has a body parallel to the floor and legs that reach diagonally away from the body. It is recurring enough to be considered a species trait, I think, and one of the more creative ones on Subeta.

I'd love to get myself a Malticorn so I'm excited to see the result of this revamp and future new colors! Galactic I'm sure will be fabulous and a soulless Dark Matter would be fantastic.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This is one of the best revamps I've ever seen. It's gorgeous! It's also the one I can find the least wrong with. I agree with everyone else about it looking a bit too caniney, and about the head needing a tad revamp, but the body, feet, and tail are mind-blowingly fantastic.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I always saw the maltese part o_O.

Anyway, I dunno why, but I prefer the old one; the chestfur is pretty, and I just love the ears; the original Malticorn's ears look like a maltese's, the revamped Malticorn's ears look like a cocker spaniel's.

..But as long as the Dawn Malticorn stays looking like candyfloss, I approve ^w^.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Mah. I don't really like the head. :/ It's too dog-like in my opinion. I liked the old hair and horn better, as well. I think the body is pretty sweet, though. Kudos to whoever thought of putting spots on its butt. xD I like.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i hate the head. it looks squished to me is the first overall impression. even fuzzyanimal's little edits to the head make it so much better. the hair is a weird shape, its a combination of flat in the wrong places and big in the wrong places; and the ears are very wrong, they're too.. squiggly? limp? i'm having a hard time articulating it, i hope that makes some sense. the face is kind of cute but everything framing it just makes me react very negatively whenever i see it. its bumming me out real hard.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really don't like this revamp. Almost everything about the anatomy looks off. Mainly, though, I think it's the ears, body, and legs.

I think the ears should be more puffy, like in the original. These are more like floppy dog ears and kind of make the revamp look more like a dog than some kind of...sheep or something like the old one. Now it doesn't look like a Malticorn but a mix of the Kanis and Ruffie.

The body, out of all of the things I don't like, is probably the least important. There are a couple of combinations that would work though. Make the chest more round/poofy and keep the body the same, make the body slimmer, or make the body (and if you don't know what I mean by body now, I mean stomach) more round/fat, kind of like the old design. Right now it just kind of makes it look like its weight isn't evenly proportioned.

Lastly, and most importantly, I don't like the legs AT ALL. They were the first things I noticed that made it look off (which could make the body look out of proportion...). I highly dislike the way they get slimmer as they extend from the body. The front left one (the one not lifted) is the worst. It looks too thin to support a body of that size. Also, the rear legs are almost completely off. The right one looks bigger than the left, and it should be the opposite because of perspective. If anything were to change, I would say the legs.

You know, now that I think about it, I think the shading needs some work, but only just a little tweak. The front left leg's shading looks like it has a different light source. That leg looks like its light source is from the front while the rear one looks like its light source is in the front and a bit to the side.

Overall, I think a lot of the redlinings done look great. It seems to me others have the same issues. All of the changes to the design are fine though. I think they actually make it look a bit better. Maybe the color could be a bit lighter, but really, they look great

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Love the new artwork, but I prefer how the old Malticorn looks.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow, ok this is probably going to be one of the more simple posts. I love this redraw. It's absolutely gorgeous and I'm soo looking forward to mine changing! Here is my one But: The ears are a bit scraggly. My suggestion would be to smooth the ear fur out a bit and make is more like the awesome leg flares. That's it

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

No. It's far too different from the normal style of art I see at Subeta. There are also a lot of anatomy errors (which have been covered). The older Malticorn looks a lot better in my opinion. A nice effort, but I don't like it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I voted for the old, but I REALLY like Typoon's redline. Ditch the spots.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Typhoon_Muffin's tweaks are about the only thing I like with regards to the redlines that are posted.

But I think it's funny that the normal gripers are here griping. Gotta love how you just can't please everyone. Vast improvement though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Like everyone else, I really like Typhoon's redline.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the art of this new version too, but something just seems off to me. Typhoon's redline seems to fix that, whether it's the legs, horn, or 'hair'.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Typhoon's redline is great- But bigger hooves, please.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really like Typhoon's edit. The face is much cuter and Malticornish. Don't get me wrong, I like the update, but the suggested corrections of Typhoon just sold me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yeah, we definitely have to change those eyes and face. But other than that I think she's ADORABLE. ;D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

omg I love the body on daniig redline! It looks so much better and it doesn't make the body look so box-like

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

omg I love the body on daniig redline! It looks so much better and it doesn't make the body look so box-like :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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; border: 1px solid ; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">I wonder why, when there are just as many people or more who are against the butt spots as there are for them, the "several others" who agree with the artist win the debate just because they agree with the artist? There are other ways to add accent colors without cluttering up nice clean fur with overly bold spots; it still has eyes, hooves, horn, and head-hair to work with. If the contrasts look too unbalanced without the rump spots, then maybe the color choices were unbalanced to begin with and something should be toned down, or the shading done better. Or that much accent color is unneeded in the first place. That's why it's called "accent color," not "the color on the other 50% of the pet," after all. The spots are an overcompensation.

While I still do not like the spots, and the need is for an accent color, is it possible to give the legs a pointed gradient to add the variety? No other pet has this so it could make the malticorn fundamentally unique with the feature.

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