The Donation page is back up.

There are a few changes - At the moment we cannot accept paypal. We are looking into a method to charge credit cards without paypal, however nothing is avaible at the moment.

That means that only mail in orders are accepted.

The september donation presents will stay avaible for a week, due to the donation page being down for so long.
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Devious
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feels for Keith .....you can't make everyone happy...but at least your trying....so hooray!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Devious
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feels for Keith .....you can't make everyone happy...but at least your trying....so hooray!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Keith
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Noir - Have youf ailed to read ANY of the comments (it wouldn't be unlike you)

I've said multiple times that we are looking into alternate methods of accepting credit/debit cards (even in the news post).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

You could go to your local bank and have your money exchanged to USD. that might be easier for the staff and you can get a money order there too XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

How do users from the UK convert money to US dollars via cheque/money order? Can we send in cheques in sterling?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Jasper
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Keith, considering that many can not send you checks or money orders, why don't you try finding a bandaid fix for the mean time and find some other method of getting electronic donations? Have you looked in to any of the suggestions made?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by SailorGundam06
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PayPal let you use your bank account, too. It's probably the same idea... just a different company.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

That 'Roo' thing looks uncannily like an item my friend drew (a while ago) for Polairia. ;; Don't tell me this site rips items.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Paybycash is a good alternative to paypal. It allows you to interac your payment through your bank card.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Dalton_381
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Oh man... stupid paypal. Paypal is only way I can order anything. Even if there's another way... My parents wouldn't let me. I can only hope everything is sorted soon.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I might snail mail some cash, although paypal is so much easier. Dx I can't find a GA to buy using sp, and this is really, really bad. u.u; I wanted to buy a few more september donation gifts but it doesn't look like that's going to be happening. (September's my birthmonth, and the only month I ever buy Donation Presents, aside from the occasional christmas purchase or a friend's birthday.)

Well Keith, I hope everything works out alright. I know I'm not the only one bummin' over the whole paypal thing. Good luck!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Moro_115
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Ack... all of this is fine with me, except that a 1 month GA medal has skyrocketed to over 3 million sp... I REALLY hope you can figure something out soon... I don't know if I have time to wait for snail mail, and I do like donating real money to Subeta since I enjoy playing it...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Glitter
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All I care about is the blob kitty

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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Please ignore the comment on International Money Orders, I thought the article would tell the opposite that it did - how people outside the US can find money orders. I should read before I open my mouth (I just saw that it was a topic and ASSUMED incorrectly) heart

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

water_neko, if you live in the US...money orders are like a personal check, but you exchange the funds with a business, like a Turkey Hill or 7-11, or like someone else suggested, Wal*Mart has inexpensive ones. What happens is you go to the merchant, and pay them a small fee (generally under $1.00), in addition to the face value (how much you want it for) and they print you a check for the amount you desire, and it is safe to mail as you write (or the merchant prints) the recipient on the money order (often abbreviated as MO). Wiki has an excellent article that I didn't look at until I typed all this...also talking about international money orders, which it sounds like many people here would like to get info on (remember, David said they look at the postmark, for those who want the September present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_order

(not to anyone in particular)
Yes mail takes a long time in comparison to instant transfers, but please appreciate that the staff is giving everyone an option at all! =)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

.. *head. Dammit again.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Oh no I owe someone 4 DPs and I -hate- ordering through the mail..

smacks Paypal upside the hate Dammit!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Hmm...I did only get paypal for this site, but I suppose that if that's the way they're going to treat people, then I'm glad you've decided to stop using it.

For those of us who aren't familiar with money orders, can someone explain to me how they work?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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I know our post office does money orders, so it's so easy for me to just go to the p.o. get a security envelope and a money order all in one place

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Teddy_620
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I actually only got paypal for this site so it is a shame that that isn't working anymore. I will just have to buy my GA's with sp again.
I am happy it is back up though xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I hope you do find another way to use credit cards or card payment because it's a pain for UK users to mail orders in.

WorldPay.com is a great secure credit transaction company, you could try them?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

No more paypal? o___o T'is how I got my stuff before! Oh well, snail mail it is. ._.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Ohhhh noooo, no paypal payment goes and gets a creditcard I will be prepared !

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rammstein
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aww its sad that paypal is not working this was going to be the first time i could buy a GA and donation presents. :p sending money from wales will take ages :p

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Historiography
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Yay, the donation page is back up!

now to find some way to get a money order. That or I'll have to resort to sending cash through the mail.



Just a general note, but yes, money order is safer and if you're afraid of what will happen to it in the mail stick it then conceal it well.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

sigh I'm happy the donations are back, but I life in germany and so I can't send money to Keith or the other two. So I just can hope that the Gold Medals in the Trades will go slower in price.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

well im glad to see the donation page is back ,too bad paypals being stubborn.I guess ill have to use the old fashion mailing system although i dont like mailing money but i must have my gold account and donation presents xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Luscious
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Awesome! -goes to get a money order- Hmmm, what to get...what to get...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Keith
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I'm going to say it agian - The paypal problems AREN'T user side, they are dealing with PAYPAL not allowing SUBETA to process funds.

They have LIMITED our account, meaning that we can longer take payments.

We are working on this (with lawyers) to stop paypal from freezing our account, like they have THOUSANDS of other people for NO REASON.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

As ironic as it may sound, Mail is actually faster for me since it takes a week or so for my paypal payments to clear. Frankly, I'm just thankful that the donation page is back up. I think our bank has free money orders. I usually keep this fact under wraps since I work for the postal service. I mean free is a far cry from 90 cent postal money orders. I must prepare my order tonight and send it out first thing tomorrow. My GA expires sigh tomorrow... (I think)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Crysti
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They didn't say they don't want to keep paypal, Paypal is just being a pain. But they brought back the donation page so people are able to send in money. Paypal is still being worked on. They could have kept the page down until paypal was fixed, but fortunately didn't.
It will still be better for those who can only use paypal as well.. at least GA medals and the donation presents will be coming into the trading post again. ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

About time it came back, but one little flaw.

People in other countries would wait months for something they want as fast as possible, so mailing the money is not an option.

Many people don't have problems with paypal, so why not keep the paypal for those who have no problems, while working out how to use credit cards? Makes more logical sense than this, as its making everything from the donation gifts to the gold account american only site bonuses.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

And what's with the people in foreign countries...?
like me and my family...?
Please bring Paypal back...please!!!!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by HollowBull
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Uhm yeah, I have a question. Will the Sepetember preasant stay up until paypal is in use again? Because that'd be really nice.

:X I'd try ordering all I want via snail mail, but Patty [my mom] alerady used the bills I gave her. [I have to give bills so I can use the card] So...now I can only buy what I want via...whatever. Paypal I guess.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Melissa
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Just FYI, most Wal-Marts in the US do money orders for less than 50 cents, depending on where you live. It's cheaper than pretty much anywhere else.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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It's funny how so many people have had trouble with paypal and or ebay, i've used both for several years now and have not once ever had trouble with either. Sorry to hear that's it's caused people problems.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by StarofEvening
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Thanks so much for bringing the donation page back up! I completely understand about paypal, they have treated me poorly in the past as well, and I'm very wary about them having my information.

I hope you guys get them straightened out soon!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by AloneInShadow
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paypal has messed me over a few times before. i ONLY use it because of this site. I don't order from ebay either because they've done me wrong as well. Its too bad the service ProPay is only available for MaryKay, it works better than paypal. Have you tried Google Checkout? I've heard its tons better and has 4 unique features that are supposed to kill Paypal.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Moonlight
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I know that Paypal has been pretty idiotic to Keith. Has he considered just buying one of those credit card machines and paying monthly for the fee to check them or whatever. I imagine it would cost him less then all the paypal fees anyway.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Moonlight
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Dhuman, you don't need tosend cash. Go to a store and purchase a money order, it's safer. And just to comment WHEEEEE XD huggles donation page Angelic Potion, and October Prezzies are all mine!!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Dhuman
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-grabs 40 bucks- I need that Shuriken. I know sending cash is bad, but I need it ;x I NEED IT BAD!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by 4Given
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So many cute things! Too bad we are buying a car at the moment and everything else is on hold.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I'm happy the donation page is back, too bad I can only pay via paypal or credit card

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Scraggle18
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Thank you SO MUCH for bringing the donation page back!!! smooches Keith and Subeta team

runs off to stuff envelopes full of money

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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Man I hate having to wait to see what all the new donation present items are... I guess it's gonna be about a week before they start popping up, that is if people send out money for DP's.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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Log was supposed to be Logo in my previous post

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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And Krissyfur, debit cards will work just like a credit card IF it's got the VISA or MASTERCARD log on them. Just because it's a debit card won't mean you'll need to use a PIN number, it would just be processed like a credit card but still take the money from your account like a debit card.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Crysti
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Yes yes, even only snail mail donations is better than the page still being down completely! It is deeply appreciated!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Aimee
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For those complaining it's too slow to send it through the mail, spend the extra buck for priority, it's not going to be that much more because it's not like you're sending a chunk of gold that weighs a ton, just some paper money. Might be smart to put delivery confirmation on it also.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by adakie
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cheers the staff on I've had past problems w/ paypal too, they can just really screw up sometimes. crosses fingers and hopes the paypal people get it together soon

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