Mysterious Melody status

Hello, everyone!

Mysterious Melody has been a Subeta tradition for years, and we're hoping to present it to you later this week. It is going to be the usual fun of being able to provide anonymous cheer, but we're also adding some new features including achievements. We've aimed them at a variety of styles, so there should be something for you whether you've saved up some big things to really make someone's day or if you chose lots of pieces for a carefully themed array of gifts.

We wanted to get this out earlier, but December's been a bit of a blustery month. The server outage from December 3rd is still an issue and, while we're working around it, the back-up configuration is less robust than we (and you) would like. Between that and other Lumi matters such as trees, testing for Mysterious Melody has taken longer than expected but we are looking forward to wrapping that up and putting it out this week. Thank you for your continued interest in Luminaire, and Subeta!

December 23, 2021, 3:07 pm by Blossoms
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Honestly I’d be surprised if it was even before January now :’)

December 19, 2021, 7:54 pm by NoCuteNameForMe
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Just a question.....we had heard that Mysterious Melody would be up this week. So far, no sign. Any news on that front?

December 17, 2021, 10:33 am by teacup132
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The broken tree images persist. I have verified on 2 different systems (Windows 10 & iOS 15.2).

Browsers verified Window = Chrome & Edge ipad = Chrome & Safari

*Loaded same page containing various trees https://subeta.net/forums.php/gotopost/65778452

Conclusions

  • Same browser, refreshed = Trees that would appear, some would disappear & vice versa
  • Different browsers = Sometimes the same trees appeared and other times other trees appeared or only a few of the same trees showed up.

In a week, Lumi trees will be opened. Empty trees has about 1/4 participation than other years, most participants indicating that they find it too difficult due to the trees glitching. Many trees that are empty remain undetected because it's very difficult to find/see them.

The tree images glitching started Dec. 12th. 6 days later, it still is problematic. Please help get staff to prioritize fixing the issue.

Empty Trees helps break social isolation, not only for participants; but also, for any that receive gifts. Please help us brighten users' Lumi, including our own!

December 17, 2021, 9:55 am by Snowwall
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As for "silent partners", I'd happily "set aside items for when my partner appears" instead of "waiting for somebody to be matched up with me" and the poor sod appearing hours later, when my timezone is already night-time or a new Subeta day is just coming up and the thing is reset! Then whoever is the "matched up person" will get my pre-prepared MM gift even without me re-visiting MM in time to see "you may exchange gifts now".

I'm not stingy, just off-time from most users, and such a "set-aside feature" could probably cut down me being a "silent freeloader" (just due to timezone mismatches and non-Subeta things coming up) in half.

December 17, 2021, 8:08 am by springblom
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I think it opens Dec 21, on the first day of winter, and ends the first day of spring. :)

December 16, 2021, 11:33 pm by Snowwall
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Sorry, are snowballs going to appear? The holiday schedule says "Luminaire and snowball tossing happen in December", but the Snowapult and Avalanche Emporium are both closed :(

December 15, 2021, 6:28 pm by UmbreonLover
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Super excited for this year's MM! :D

December 15, 2021, 4:11 am by Tammynoneed20
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I cant wait for mm to start I have alot of good items waiting but if I get nothing or a silent partner then I will not be doing it next year

December 14, 2021, 10:54 pm by DimDim
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at least you managed to get an event in 11 months that we can use, with luck, 2 weeks instead of 4. but I rely there, also as always, on our friends the server problems.

"the same procedure as every year James".

December 14, 2021, 8:55 pm by springblom
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I have personally tried chrome, firefox, safari and edge. Since it started being glitchy, I had thought maybe it was a browser issue and I could get around it...but apparently, though i didn't check to see if the same exact trees are broken across all, still an issue no matter what browsers I look at.

It's really strange because SOME trees are visible and others aren't. Some are visible on profiles but the image is broken when I click the gift link. Many are broken on profiles but load once when I click on the gift link but not after I gift. I am not a programmer, so I'm not seeing a pattern, though there must be a common denominator!

December 14, 2021, 4:16 pm by Rogue
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I'm eager for the return of MM. It's my favorite Lumi tradition and I have really missed it this year.

December 14, 2021, 2:55 pm by StarShadow
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Just curious if we're getting any new ornaments from the boxes for this year.

December 14, 2021, 2:16 pm by teacup132
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Thank you for the update & it is greatly appreciated to know that staff are working on the tree issue. As odd as it may seem, people have indicated that even the trees they themselves saw, can then not load & vice versa. In the signatures & titles, no trees have been visible. The issue started Dec. 12th. There was mention that there would be a switch or addition of a server for the Cash shop. A bit after the mention is when the trees started to glitch. It might be a coincidence but it might be a lead to where the prob originated.

I hope that helps ^^

December 14, 2021, 2:12 pm by atempause
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unpopular opinion i guess but i'd be happy to try out mm again with achievements attached to it, i never bothered to join it when seeing so many ppl upset over their partners for the day and wondering "is my stuff good enough? are they talking about me?" (anxiety is a bitch lol not everyone hunting achis is gonna be a jerk <:I

December 14, 2021, 1:58 pm by Bibliophilia
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Cool! I’ve been looking forward to doing my first mysterious melody and have seen other members talks about it. Sounds like it’s going to be fun! People who don’t care for the achievements I’m assuming don’t have to do anything different than what they would normally do? I can’t wait!

December 14, 2021, 1:35 pm by Pseudonym
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Nope, I do not like this at all. A gift exchange on here when we're supposed to be spreading cheer and joy and all that good stuff, is now an achievement hunt? Why anyone thought this was a good idea I'll never understand, because it isn't. You'll have people who are in this just for the achievements as well as the usual people who just don't participate. I remember when the achievement system first came out and it was a lot of junk gifts for the tiers. Like I know I don't give out any crazy items like CWs on the reg but I try to give things in a theme and sure, not everything is crazy expensive either, but I try to at least do it thoughtfully, and I'm thankful for every thoughtful gift as well.

December 14, 2021, 1:10 pm by Galaxia
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For the trees, we're still working on them; it looks like there's a browser-based component to the issue that's complicating it. Sometimes a tree that's broken in Chrome is visible in Edge or Firefox or vice versa. Have you and the other lovely people wanting to spread cheer in that thread had the same trees broken for everyone across all browsers, or has it been variable?

December 14, 2021, 11:18 am by Soleta
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Thank you for the update! I'm getting my MM outlet from the 'give a themed gift' thread in the forums this year, but looking forward to MM!

December 14, 2021, 11:02 am by Lesleigh
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Thank you for the update! MM is my most favorite part of Subeta. I gather items and wait (sorta patiently but not really lol) all year. (: I'll keep gathering items and this year: I will just have to participate each day once it's live. YAY!

December 14, 2021, 10:26 am by Daydream
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Thanks for the update! MM is my favorite part of the site. I remember one year as a teen I figured out who my MM was from her posts in the forums and I felt so clever for it that I just kept sending her anon gifts throughought the season.

December 14, 2021, 9:09 am by TaintedTamer
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I'll be ready to jump into MM when it's available, but until then, I'll keep spamming gifts in the forums.

December 14, 2021, 9:06 am by teacup132
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Some trees are appearing in forum posts, thank you ❤ [color]What would be even better is that all trees appear in posts, in signatures, in titles, on user descriptions, etc.[/color]

MM can be enjoyable when users actually send things. Unfortunately, I've had several experiences over the years whereby the people sent nothing. I hope there will be a feature to penalize such users in the future as it becomes very discouraging to continue participating.

Moreover, I'd prefer the site works properly before adding new features, especially the trees! We're stuck trying to stall & entertain users while waiting for ALL the tree images to function properly. Several users have become discouraged & there's only so much stalling I can do before morale completely drops!

December 14, 2021, 8:15 am by Delirium
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I used to participate in MM but I stopped a while ago. This will be good motivation to do a little anonymous giving. I like achievements. :) Time to do quests so I have sp again lolol.

December 14, 2021, 8:14 am by Toffee
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Thanks for the update!

Hopefully most of the bugs get fixed soon!

December 14, 2021, 7:55 am by HYPEBEAST
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And let the record show I am NOT talking about people who actually can’t afford more expensive items but are at least trying >_> There is a difference!

December 14, 2021, 7:52 am by Vestele
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Y'know, I'd much rather like to see the trees fixed.

I stopped doing MM because I kept getting paired with people who just didn't participate. One year, the person I was paired with sent some really mean spirited "gifts" too. After too many years of trying my best to be positive, I just decided that gifting my friends and random users under their trees was more fun. I dunno if I will go for the achievements for MM. It's nice for the people that want to do it though.

December 14, 2021, 7:35 am by Synth
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I'm disappointed to see the assumption that just because I'll be coerced to participate because of achievements that I'll only give "junk" but I can't say I blame people for fearing that either. Personally, if I decide to participate, I'll do it right and try to be fair and generous, but the fact that sometimes you really do only get junk or even worse, nothing, is a big part of the reason I'm not interested in MM. Disproportionate gifting in either direction (whether I'm receiving too much or not enough) just makes me really uncomfortable which is why I don't have my tree open for gifts either. I always end up either feeling disappointed that I was forgotten or ashamed that I didn't give enough. Either way, ick. And this whole discussion that always surrounds gifting (especially anonymous/mystery gifting) is even more ick. Complaining about getting junk looks tacky, sure, but only giving junk (or nothing) and expecting more in return is even tackier. I'm not a big fan of real-life Christmas either and do my best to avoid all gift exchanges because they're always just awkward and stressful for me.

Anyway, that's my rant, sorry I'm such a grinch. I've just gotten burned too often to enjoy things that rely on the kindness and integrity of strangers, especially anonymous ones.

December 14, 2021, 7:30 am by HYPEBEAST
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It IS greedy to RECEIVE expensive items and give junk items (or nothing) back :) And junk items don’t have any thought put into them. And it takes no effort to send random, cheap quest rewards so let’s not defend this behaviour! Last year like half of my MMs were responsive and the other half just took the items and didn’t do anything at all. Greedy thoughts do count and ruin it for others!

December 14, 2021, 7:30 am by HYPEBEAST
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It IS greedy to RECEIVE expensive items and give junk items (or nothing) back :) And junk items don’t have any thought put into them. And it takes no effort to send random, cheap quest rewards so let’s not defend this behaviour! Last year like half of my MMs were responsive and the other half just took the items and didn’t do anything at all. Greedy thoughts do count and ruin it for others!

December 14, 2021, 4:53 am by Kyocera
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It's been years since I've done MM and I've completely forgotten what it's all about. Is there a quick guide anywhere?

December 14, 2021, 4:37 am by cassygee
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I tend to dip in and out of MM, it’s great when you get a partner that engages, but as soon as I encounter a “silent” partner I get discouraged. I’m not seriously into achievements so that side doesn’t interest me.

🌲 🌲 But, please, please, please get the tree images working again. I am one of the admins of Empty Trees and it is breaking our members hearts not to be finding and filling trees. I came on an hour ago to find some images were working and I got very excited, now they’ve disappeared again!! We can’t fill empty trees if we can’t see they’re empty.

December 14, 2021, 3:19 am by Choco
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Time to buy some stickers for proper communication!

December 14, 2021, 2:55 am by Tammynoneed20
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I cant wait for mm no matter what I get yes it is the thought that counts I love all the gifts I get :)

December 14, 2021, 2:05 am by Solas
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I'm a little sad that some people are sounding a bit greedy :( Just be happy to get something even if others think it's a cheap gift, it's the thought that someone cares enough to gift at all that should matter not that the gift was high priced or not.

December 14, 2021, 2:00 am by Beren
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I love everything new! So excited.

Also... this "filling empty trees" was so much fun, unless there were new requirements. I still love doing it - but the thread is not one of my favorites any more. To much differnet stuff going on there, that is NOT filling empty trees.

As alwayys thank you for the information and work you all put into this site

December 14, 2021, 12:59 am by seelensturm
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I'm with teacup132 and springjoy. Filling empty trees is my favourite holiday activity on the site. It's basically the only activity since I'm not interested in MM at all. Please bring the tree images back.

December 13, 2021, 11:26 pm by Tammynoneed20
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I will love to give mm a try I have alot of good items to give no cheap items this is my first mm in years

December 13, 2021, 11:25 pm by Mysterious
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I’m happy about MM coming back. :) the achievements don’t really to me, I just like gifting. I don’t have too many friends on here so it’s always fun to bring cheer to another player

December 13, 2021, 11:16 pm by Lia
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I'm not thrilled about achievements attached to MM, it will only encourage people to join just for that and donate junk. I was hoping the changes would make it funnier, it's my favorite thing to do during Lumi and I saved so much stuff, it's not fun when you're paired with someone who just wants to get the achievement and will throw crap at you.

December 13, 2021, 10:49 pm by StarShadow
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I haven't tried MM for ages, probably because of seeing complaints about players getting just cheap junk or nothing at all from their MM. Is there any way to change that & make it more fair, like an SP range minimum and maximum for presents and/or a requirement that you have to send at least 1 item?

December 13, 2021, 10:48 pm by NeonDinosaur
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I never really used MM because in the past I would send nice or decent gifts like a subq invite and few WT and they would send junk items worth pretty much nothing

December 13, 2021, 10:39 pm by jensen
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i'm another one who would prefer seeing the gift exchange come back -- i've never participated in mysterious melody because i'm always worried my gifts wouldn't be "good enough" for whoever i got matched with -- but if we're going to have achievements... i guess it's time to face my fears :')

December 13, 2021, 10:21 pm by Stocking
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I'm glad MM is coming for the people looking forward to it..Not sure how I feel about more achievements being attached to it if they're going to be based on spending. It's weird to me when people brag about that with trees already lol. We already have one for sending gifts in general though, so maybe it'll be that but extended?

December 13, 2021, 10:11 pm by Claire
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Also! Trees only glitch on Samsung. My iPhone and iPad work just great :/ honestly it muggy be Chrome

December 13, 2021, 10:09 pm by Claire
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Can we get a "go subeta, go?!" Everyone comment GO SUBETA, GO!!

December 13, 2021, 10:00 pm by Lotus
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I used to do MM every year, but the last few years ended up being paired with grinches who never sent anything. :( Now I just stick to people I know.

December 13, 2021, 9:34 pm by Tucker
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Meh, I gave up ages ago after seeing so many complaints about everything from "cheap" items to not being sent gifts the entire day. (and if anyone here remembers me telling this before, I was the user who found out their MM because they complained and donated what I gave them)

Unless we get something to not be paired with someone all day coughs gift exchange* I'll still sit this out. I don't really celebrate Christmas and it kind of extends to onsite.

December 13, 2021, 9:13 pm by Moonsie
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I must say I agree about fixing the trees. Gifting is so uninspiring right now. :(

December 13, 2021, 9:07 pm by Trees
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I don't really do MM, I'll only do it if the acheviments have prizes that I want badly enough. I agree with what someone said about not wanting to spend a load on more appealing items just for the achievements, especially since I still have trees to gift and I'll be spending loads on that.

December 13, 2021, 8:54 pm by penelope
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I am really excited to see what changes are in store! Mysterious Melody is a favorite feature of mine and many others on the site. ❤️

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