Another Survival Update

February 20, 2021 11:17 am

Hello! It is I, your humble staff member here to update you on Survival 2021.

I know in my last news post, I let y’all know that quite a few of us on staff were dealing with weather issues that made getting the holiday done hard. We’re still sort of in that position, unfortunately. While I’m not personally under a lot of snow anymore, my internet connection is either the pace of a snail or just trying its very best to connect. Which really makes it hard to add the really cool items we have in store for Louis and Skitters!

So instead of risking losing one of those items or spending half the day adding things, I’m here to express my regret that we’re going to have to push Survival back a bit more. Before you get too upset, hear me out!

Some things to look forward to:

Survival will still be the same length it has been in previous years, roughly 15 days.
We’ve decreased the time between stages for a skin by hours! You’ll surely get more skins for your collection this year… also that sounds very gross.
This year’s skins have fewer stages than previous years, so hey! You’ll get them even quicker!!!
We’re going to try very hard not to use the word ‘virus’ or ‘infection’ when the holiday starts, because of the actual real-life pandemic. Gunner has to do some rebranding but it’s fine!

I’m really sorry that this holiday has been pushed back so much when I know so many of y’all enjoy it.

February 24, 2021, 5:24 am by

Oh Chocolate, why you so bitter? You chocolate...

February 22, 2021, 6:44 pm by

Thank you for the update! Everyone is struggling a bit between the ongoing pandemic and the weather being a complete nightmare (though thankfully it's at least warming up where I am so there's definitely hope for all of us here, LOL).

I look forward to being active during another Survival season. Thank you for all the work that you guys are doing on the back end to make it a great one!

February 22, 2021, 5:10 pm by

y'all be like well if INFECTION is bad what about the word DIE??? what about SICK???? like you're just being willfully obtuse here. They're making one small gesture that doesn't impact the event in any way. get over it.

February 22, 2021, 5:08 pm by

Who cares if they change the words. Does it change anything about your enjoyment of the holiday? Does it change anything about the way the holiday functions? Then they can change the words to "doodly doot doodle dop" and I wouldn't care. Honestly irrelevant.

February 22, 2021, 12:44 pm by

Please stay safe all! <3

February 22, 2021, 1:31 am by

♥╣[--]╠♥ You shouldn't take life too seriously; no one gets out of it alive. ♥╣[--]╠♥

February 22, 2021, 1:26 am by

Always better to delay than to start on-time and have it executed w/ hiccups. Thank you Subeta team!

February 22, 2021, 12:17 am by

I am so excited for the shorter times between changes. The last few years make me feel so impatient to see the final result. :) Even though many times I haven't been real excited to collect all the new ones there have been a few awesome new skins.

February 21, 2021, 9:39 pm by

[item=Does Your Junk Have a Funk?]

February 21, 2021, 9:32 pm by

I didn't think Subeta was ever that strict (though I could be wrong), that sounds more like a Neopets thing. Subeta NPCs have kids of their own, and several of them are in ongoing relationships or have been for years. There were also references to, er, specific care that should be taken to avoid specific problems during summer festival fun, with that book still being in Medicontra.

February 21, 2021, 9:25 pm by

Also, something I've been wondering since last year's Survival items, though I forgot entirely until I saw the top comment here. Are mentions of sex and sexuality no longer against Subeta's rules? Used to be your pet couldn't have a spouse with a child because it implied they mated, but, uh...Louis had some full-on adult items last time around. What are the rules now? I'm not angry or offended by anything on the site or any answer I could possibly get, just sincerely wondering because it's clear times have changed!

February 21, 2021, 9:25 pm by

February 21, 2021, 9:15 pm by

No need to apologize; you guys are doing great. Stay warm and safe! That's all that matters right now. Can't wait for Survival once it does happen; I'm sure it'll be great!

February 21, 2021, 9:11 pm by

Probably not feasible navigating that minefield. There are some people who think that LGBTQ+ stuff is automatically more 'adult'. There are people who see whips as nothing more than an Indiana Jones or Catwoman cosplay opportunity. There are people who think any reference to sex at all should be behind a cut. There are people who get into kink not even as a sexual thing. Trying to figure out what's more adult or needs special handling other than just avoiding explicit description or artwork and putting a baseline 13+ on the site (which is in the rules to even be on Subeta) would get messy fast.

February 21, 2021, 9:06 pm by

If Frankenchokies gets upset, you know you're doing something right.

Keep on keeping on. Thanks for the update and acknowledgement.

February 21, 2021, 9:01 pm by

Oh Jesus fucking Christ.

February 21, 2021, 9:00 pm by

Thank you so much for the update! And I would like to applaud you all for rebranding Survival. <3

February 21, 2021, 7:38 pm by

Thank you for taking it upon yourself to speak for the collective human population who has dealt with this pandemic for the past year. That was a great move.

February 21, 2021, 7:21 pm by

Thanks for letting us know and I hope everyone is safe. ❤

I really like the suggestion of moving kink items to another page for people who are upset by them and because, you know, there ARE kids who play Subeta. It'd be great if there was some sort of toggle to hide adult items like that but I don't know how feasible that is.

February 21, 2021, 6:59 pm by

I haven’t been really active in the events for the past few years I’ve been here, so I’m really excited to participate in this one!

February 21, 2021, 1:46 pm by

Bad take: this thing isn't upsetting to me so it's not an issue. Please be respectful of others, it's not very hard. I'm not bothered by the words but I understand that others may be and my irrelevant opinion doesn't matter. I appreciate the staff's efforts to be sensitive to the current world state and those who may be more affected by such things than those of us who are lucky enough to not be put into a situation where it does make us uncomfortable or distressed. I'm looking forward to the event when it is ready. It's my favorite subeta holiday. Hearing that we're going to have less time between progressions is wonderful. I can't wait to see what goodies y'all have cooked up for us this year! Stay safe everyone. ❤️

February 21, 2021, 12:45 pm by

Nobody said the words 'virus' 'infection' and 'pandemic' were offensive. Nobody is offended. But some people find them upsetting in the current environment, particularly those who have lost friends and family, and there is absolutely no sane reason why anyone could object to using them a bit less while this situation is going on. I'm glad most people here are capable of basic empathy, at least.

February 21, 2021, 11:44 am by

Glad you are all well, thank you for the update. Postponing and modifying our plans is part of life and we who have followed and grown with Subeta for so many years, understand and support you. And I hope that the players reading this are doing well too, of course.

February 21, 2021, 11:23 am by

Thanks for the update, very lovely explanation there, quite funny too, so no problems, take your time. How about instead of the dang hated "virus" we use zombietis? :D Survavitis sounds more of a tongue twister :D

February 21, 2021, 11:00 am by

I wish everyone the best and it's okay if things get pushed back. Stay safe and warm.

(May I also suggest a "Back Room" for Louis if he's going to keep getting mature stuff? Not all of us want to see that kind of a content, and it makes sense that a romance shop would have a Back Room for the adult items.)

February 21, 2021, 10:16 am by

I also wanted to say, I don't think "virus" or "infection" are offensive, though I can understand not wanting to make light of something that has been extremely devastating to so many of us.

February 21, 2021, 9:21 am by

I'm looking forward to this, whenever it happens to start! :) Stay warm and safe, y'all.

February 21, 2021, 8:21 am by

Just popping in to say take care of yourselves first and foremost, we can wait + I don't find words like "infection", "virus" or "disease" offensive in ANY WAY. Those are normal words used in everyday life and I, personally, believe we should stop stigmatizing words simply because they refer to real-life events. Stay safe everyone, and have a great day.

February 21, 2021, 7:00 am by

Thank you for the update! I have to agree with the majority here posting. I am not offended by the survival words used. It's been a year now that the real pandemic has been around. Subeta though is just a game we play and enjoy...I have always thought of the survival event as the walking dead...zombies and prizes...new skins. Nothing about it reminds me of real life... Most of us are here to play the game. Peace out

February 21, 2021, 4:39 am by

Thanks for the update! Love and respect to all the staff working hard, especially during this pandemic. Thank you for always doing your best Subeta staff! :)

February 21, 2021, 2:03 am by

Main one that would be effected per my guess is masquerade as staff permanently moved vesnali to early May.

February 21, 2021, 2:00 am by

First and foremost I am glad everyone is ok and I appreciate the update, I am wondering if the start date of masquerade will be effected?

February 21, 2021, 1:34 am by

I understand that this had to be done considering the circumstances, but it makes me wonder if pushing Survival back will affect the starting time of the next two holidays (Masq and Vesnali) since they are all pretty close together as it is in the schedule? Might end up being a hectic spring if that's the case XD

February 21, 2021, 1:27 am by

We love and respect you all

February 21, 2021, 1:04 am by

That's fine! Thank you for letting us know, we understand all the craziness that's been going on has derailed a lot of things. We're just excited for it whenever it does happen! ^-^

February 21, 2021, 12:51 am by

ngl kinda sad there wont be more stages, i liked the slow manifestation

February 21, 2021, 12:44 am by

Would love to see more masks. IRL I have masks that have a kitty mouth, puppies, rainbow color paw prints, etc. My HA would like to wear some like that. :)

February 21, 2021, 12:21 am by

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I wonder how this is going to affect the other holidays that are coming up.

I don't think Mas-querade will require any rebranding ;)

February 21, 2021, 12:00 am by

I'd rather have it later than things glitching all over. Real-life first. There are times we'd like to say everything is ok or things are getting better but the reality is that sometimes things take longer to get better. Rainbows come out after a storm... it will get better ❤

February 20, 2021, 11:48 pm by

My heart goes out to all the staff who are suffering in this awful situation, hoping you all get heat, power, and especially water soon. I'm grateful for the hard work you guys are doing behind the scenes, and I'll be happy however the event takes place. I think Survival was always going to be weird this year... but I know I'd rather focus on all the ways you're planning on making it a special one for us. Thank you!

February 20, 2021, 11:39 pm by

I'm not surprised they're no longer being referred to as "virus strains" or "infections" at least for this year given the events of the past year....it's probably gonna be a while before it's OK to refer to them as such again, if ever (after all this has traumatized millions). Probably a good call to rebrand, I know while many of us may not be upset by the original words, some may be now, so I'm glad you're thinking of them. Anyway, I'm glad Survival is still happening despite a real life pandemic, and I'm not surprised the winter storms have had a hand in this. I also am glad that infection times have been reduced by several hours now, that's honestly something I've wanted for a while. Idk about fewer stages though for the new ones, but hey - more skins, so I'm happy about that. Looking forward to Survival 2021!!

February 20, 2021, 11:19 pm by

I'm sorry, but shouldn't "survival" be offensive too? People are literally every day struggling to survive in the real world, so the fact that we're acting like virus or infection are somehow bad words is incomprehensible. I just don't understand how before 2020, it was ok to get an infection, but afterwards, it's insensitive. You can have an infection that has nothing to do with covid. Pretty soon we're going to be so limited in our vocabulary everything is going to have to be named after made up stuff, which in reality, Survival already IS made up. I like that we have our made up Subeta holidays!

Some things I agree with the site on making things more sensitive and inclusive, but this feels like a step too far, in my opinion.

I will still be enjoying survival, but I just think if the staff had more time to spend planning new things and less time to go over fixing old things, it would make life easier. <3

February 20, 2021, 11:06 pm by

Thanks for the update! Hope everyone is doing okay and staying warm - even zombies need to keep above freezing!

February 20, 2021, 10:41 pm by

❤ The safety and health of the staff comes first. Stay warm and stay safe

February 20, 2021, 10:40 pm by

Thank you for the update. I hope you all are staying safe and warm!

I earned myself an almost 2 month hospital stay from October 2 to November 27 last year due to a bad case of pneumonia. I had half of a functioning lung and was told I was 2 days to death when I finally went to the hospital. It wasn't COVID, but it wasn't good either (intubated twice, chest tubes to drain my lungs, kidneys stopped functioning and I had to have dialysis, medically induced coma, on oxygen for over a month, and so on). So, as for the rebranding of things, even though I personally don't feel it's needed, I understand why it's being done.

February 20, 2021, 10:16 pm by

I think it's fair to rename things just for the duration of COVID. It doesn't have to be permanent but it's a caring gesture from the staff, which I personally appreciate. From the sound of it, it's not like our Oktoberfest holiday, where the entire thing shifted theme and everything was overhauled. It's just minor word changing.

But one thing that makes me both laugh and sigh -- when the cute face masks came out, people were mad that they were being reminded of the real life lockdown. But now when staff try to not do that, people complain that it isn't reflective of real life.

damned if you do, damned if you don't.

February 20, 2021, 9:37 pm by

Thank you for making such an effort to communicate with us, even with everything going on. It's very much appreciated! <3 And thank you for being aware and sensitive in regards to the parallels of this particular event and the state of the real world. That's something that didn't even occur to me, so I'm very glad that there are people on the team thinking of these things and making the necessary changes! I know that a lot of - hm, let's say more cynical - users regard this as unnecessary and would probably go so far as to call it pandering, but I think it's a really kind thing to do. Especially for those who have been infected with the RL virus we're living with now, or who have loved ones who have been. I can imagine how painful seeing all of that stuff thrown around carelessly on site would be. :( Take care! <3

February 20, 2021, 9:29 pm by

You guys have been super communicative throughout this whole pushback, and I just wanted to mention how much it means to be in the loop for this. I'm sure the users also affected by the weather/internet/power and such as well appreciate the push too. Stay safe!

February 20, 2021, 9:10 pm by

I wonder how this is going to affect the other holidays that are coming up.

February 20, 2021, 8:58 pm by

Thank you staff for working hard on this upcoming survival! I know that real life situations can definitely take its toll. Hope the weather gets better soon! ^^

In terms of other names for the infection/virus, I can see the term 'affliction' being used as its has more uncommon usage as well as capturing the unliving vibe.

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