Snowball Fight Prizes

December 29, 2014, 10:34 am by

I threw 500 snowballs and it was fun because I got to make it with two bulks of snowballs that got matched into themes somehow. I'm glad our team won, but not too happy upon knowing that there were people in both teams who cheated to get a higher score :(

December 29, 2014, 2:24 am by

I had a blast! Open up the Snow-Ball-Throwing-Thingie all year! I want to throw snowballs during Masquerade again!

December 28, 2014, 11:56 pm by

I had a blast! Open up the Snow-Ball-Throwing-Thingie all year! I want to throw snowballs during Masquerade again!

December 28, 2014, 9:01 pm by

Like others have said, it's pretty frustrating that two of the items I got were from this year...

December 28, 2014, 4:39 pm by

Unlocked Snowball Champion! Be in the top 10% of snowball throwers during the Snowball War!

Oh wow, I did not expect this. Thanks babes!

December 28, 2014, 4:04 pm by

People were using auto-refreshers? I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but that's just being down right lazy! I mean think about it, all you have to do is let the auto-refresher play for you, (I don't know how auto-refreshers work. Never used one and I never will.) instead of you doing it yourself. If people say "Oh I used one because it was the only way to win" or "I used one to help my team" or etc, then that's not a good enough excuse. People who used Auto-refreshers had an unfair advantage over us who played fair. In all honestly I want to say I'm proud of my little score of 426 snowballs, because at least I threw them by myself; no auto-refresher needed ;)!!

That aside, this event was rather nice! Snowball fights (in RL) Are a lot of fun, so having a snowball fight on the site was nice :). The first few days were a lot of fun, but then it started getting a bit boring and I stopped throwing snowballs because I didn't feel like it and RL got in my way. But if this event came back next year, I say maybe next time put a time limit on when you can join, and possibly make it a bot shorter. If it's meant to be a mini event, the 5 days would have been very nice :3. But thanks for the event, it gave me a reason to throw snowballs at others and get the snowball throwing achievement c:.

December 28, 2014, 3:59 pm by

I didn't like this competition because purchasing and throwing snowballs seemed unfair! I threw over 500 by hand and thought that would've been in the top numbers.

December 28, 2014, 1:22 pm by

Totally agree with Botanist. No one said anybody had to join a team and if you don't have time to actually participate then don't join. Also there's no way they could calculate the win on total # of snowballs thrown unless both teams had the exact same number of members, so the average per member for the team is the only fair way to score it. If something like this is done again they need to have a cut off for joining and then start the event after that. Also don't make it drag out for so long that people get tired & bored.

December 28, 2014, 12:01 pm by

This is to the staff. I think next year it should be clear that its an average between the team, where as this year im sure a lot of people assumed it was amount total through in which case Dollys team would have won. That was not clear anywhere and i just checked again. Also melody items from the "current year" shouldn't be included in the prize pot it seems really unfair since they aren't technically retired. This is my opion and why i was upset because the rules weren't stated clearly. Overall i liked the event and think itd be fun in the future with a few tweeks.

December 28, 2014, 5:41 am by

Er, Predator, are you serious? The event went on for days and it would take 1 minute to join a team and throw the 3 snowballs needed for the team prize, and a whole 10 minutes or so to earn the participation prize. Nobody 'needed' an auto refresher just to participate.

Also, my view is that if you don't have time to actually play the game, you shouldn't feel entitled to tiered prizes designed to reward people for choosing to put time and effort into Subeta.

December 28, 2014, 1:10 am by

I have never used an autorefresher and wouldn't even know where to look for one, but if that's how some people participated I agree with others that it sure sounds like cheating when the rest of us had to fire snowballs "in person". Hope they get the HAs fixed soon.

December 28, 2014, 12:25 am by

Botanist, if we couldn't use refreshers, I couldn't participate at all because I don't have the time to piss about here all day. 😠 You can poo-poo them if you wish but keep it to yourself.

December 28, 2014, 12:06 am by

Who knew you could throw 30k snowballs while you were sleeping. LOL.
Good for those who were able to figure out how to do that. LOL. I'm happy with my 1,6k snowballs thrown. XD

December 27, 2014, 11:48 pm by

Now if they can only fix our HAs and the disappearing clothes! I want my Samoyed back :(

December 27, 2014, 11:05 pm by

It was lowered because the original top 10% had been miscalculated. There is a topic in the site feedback forum called 'Was it really the top 10%?' and around the middle of the 3rd page Keith explained it :)

December 27, 2014, 6:55 pm by

"Unlocked Snowball Champion! Be in the top 10% of snowball throwers during the Snowball War!"

I just got this and I'm very confused. I thought the top 10% was 30-ish thousand+? Which was about 20k more than I had at the end. Did they just lower it now or is this a fluke?

December 27, 2014, 6:41 pm by

Thank you so much for the prizes!

December 27, 2014, 6:11 pm by

Thank you for fixing the achievenent! Also I threw 30k ish but used mindless clicking while doing other tasks. I also threw many of mine the first day when there was basically one second between refreshes. I bet a lot of the top tosses got theirs in that way too.

December 27, 2014, 6:10 pm by

Where did you read that? Was it in a news post I missed? And what happened to my HA, a lot of stuff is missing from it suddenly including my beautiful new Samoyed.

December 27, 2014, 5:10 pm by

The top 10% are now at 4k if i read correctly... ^^

December 27, 2014, 5:04 pm by

I think a lot of the negativity expressed towards this event is justified. It's to be expected especially if you invested a lot of time and money into something and basically got nothing worth your effort out of it. Many people have also been giving suggestions to make the event better as well. Personally, I think using auto-refreshers IS cheating because you've basically just gotten prizes for doing nothing? It's also unfair to those who actually put time and effort into participating. I don't know, it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and discourages me from even bothering with events like these. Anyways, it wasn't like the event was bad it just.. disappointing to say the least. That's all.

December 27, 2014, 4:48 pm by

"You've earned the Snowball Champion achievement!" Uh, yeah, I just now got this. Huh? I threw well over 6K snowballs. Did they lower the requirement for the achievement?

December 27, 2014, 4:34 pm by

Unlocked Snowball Champion!

Be in the top 10% of snowball throwers during the Snowball War!

uh.....I only threw 5001, but I have this

December 27, 2014, 4:25 pm by

It was completely doable without an auto-refresher, and there were safeguards in place after the first day (the hash codes) to limit the use of the refreshers... I threw a huge amount of snowballs by watching TV/Movies while counting to 10 and then hitting f5. I will state that it was completely no fun, and not the kind of completely grinding event that I would like to see in the future... because that was all it was... a blatant sp sink where all you did was refresh pages(snowball shop/snowtapult). Unfortunately, there is no way to stop auto-refreshers without making it so that you'd have to go through the three step process EVERY time... and I know that a lot of people got their ridiculously high numbers on the first day before time limits and hash codes were introduced. I know that I had about a third of mine done that night when it was easy. I also will say that I would prefer it in the future if team-joining had a window which closed before the event started, and that you can't see the team stats until it starts. And to be completely fair, all safeguards should be in lace when the event starts... by now staff should know the modus operandi around here by now. I also think that there were enough unique prizes for just joining and participating that I didn't feel like a super desirable wearable needed to be the prize for the winning team, as it just causes upset and questioning. I felt like there was more than enough impetus to participate without the special prize, but that's just me. And while we're listing our dream wishlists here... I'd love to see anyone who doesn't earn the small special prize counted against the team in the final total. ;)

December 27, 2014, 4:19 pm by

There was a Trophy? dang-it.

December 27, 2014, 3:47 pm by

I'm just now hearing about the use of auto refreshers. If this is correct and some people were allowed to use auto refreshers, then that is nothing less than cheating.

If the players were informed of auto refreshers being allowed and also provided with access to those auto refreshers, then this would have been a fair fight.

Since it appears auto refreshers were allowed to be used and not everyone knew about it or had access to it, then this event was not in any way a fair fight.

Also, would you mind explaining exactly how the scoring was figured for the teams? It also appears, from what people are saying, that the scoring was off.

December 27, 2014, 2:47 pm by

i cannot see why everyone is so dang mad about this. its an event. you were NOT forced to join. you were NOT forced to throw X amount of snow balls, or spend X amount of time, or sp! Quit your whining

December 27, 2014, 2:14 pm by

so much whining, boohoooo shut up

good event overall, thanks staff :B

December 27, 2014, 1:45 pm by

Does anyone realize how ungrateful they sound with all of the complaining? The developers made an event, put time in effort into it and the creation of items, and all anyone can do is complain and bash. I cannot imagine how the people who work on this site feel when there is so much complaining.

December 27, 2014, 12:36 pm by

I really don't understand all of the rage over the prizes. o_o The first announcement about the contest was pretty straight forward concerning what participants were going to receive. "For participating: Team-themed achievement and titleâ€¨, 3 retired Melodyâ€™s Cottage itemsâ€¨, Trow Trophy for your profile!"â€¨ "In addition to the participant prizes, the winning team will receive: â€¨2 extra retired Melody's cottage items and a special winter themed wearable." "The top 10% of snowball throwers from either team will also receive a special achievement and title!" That's it. It said NOTHING about a prize shop or any extra prizes other than what was already listed.

December 27, 2014, 12:35 pm by

If something like this is done again in the future, couple suggestions. First, have a time limit for people to choose/join a team before the event starts and once it begins close the membership so people can't join at the last minute. And second don't make it drag on for so long. After a few days I was tired & bored with just sitting and clicking and had other Subeta things I needed to do, like buy WL presents for my friends. And why isn't the snowtapult open?! I thought it stayed open until Dec. 31st. I was waiting for the contest to end so I could finally throw snowballs at my friends and now I can't.

December 27, 2014, 11:40 am by

I really enjoyed it, it was a lot of fun, I dont know what to think about the prize scoring and how to make something like this fairer,I dont think its possible really, some people are happy to be here 24/7, some will use a program to throw thousands, some wont try at all, [like the only MM I did] if theres no prizes no-one would have done it, a prize shop would still let the highest scorers get the best things, who knows what to do? The main thing for me is that it doesn't stop Subeta from still trying to make us happy and create these games for us, imagine if they said "sod it we're not going to bother any more" then where would be be? thank you Subeta.

December 27, 2014, 10:43 am by

Doable without an AR*** sorry

December 27, 2014, 10:42 am by

I think if auto-refreshers are allowed and Subeta doesn't want to ban them that they shouldn't make achievements such as requiring being in the top 10% tier. It forces anyone who wants to achieve it to use an AR. It isn't cheating because it isn't banned but it seems a bit unfair. Not saying I didn't like the event ir my prizes but I think an achievement that is doable with an AR like throw 5k snowballs would have been better.

December 27, 2014, 10:13 am by

Yeah, no. Making it a different link with every click is about the worst idea ever. Most events require doing things over and over again and even if you don't use auto-refresh (I don't have a lot of experience with it, I don' usually use it) it takes forever and having to go back and click something new each time... just... no.

December 27, 2014, 9:49 am by

I threw 2k snowballs for Tobias, and got decent prizes in the line of what I expected (and what was announced in the news), so no complaint there.

However...

Quote by botanist

The elephant in the room with events like this is auto-refreshers. ... This is why a prize shop on points would be inappropriate for an event like this, and why many people who worked hard had no chance of getting in the 10% - your frail human clicking finger was no match for tireless machines that played the game for people while they slept.

THIS ^

I manually threw my 2k snowballs, one by one, waiting 5 seconds between them, getting through the lag, and basically not doing anything else but sit there and click. People basically got an extra achievement and title for getting an autorefresher to do the work for them. There is no achieving anything that way. Either you make a strict rule on forbidding autorefreshers (and punishing people when caught), or you make sure ALL events are set up not to allow auto refreshers (different links with each click, or whatever would work). I played it fair, and I feel like I got punished for it.

December 27, 2014, 9:40 am by

I'm not sure what it is about my post that irritated you so but, yes, I definitely see the difference, I made that point in my post as well. I hadn't noticed anyone complaining about it as such in the past, but yes I CAN see how ARs could be interpreted as cheating, especially for this mini-event, it's just... they're NOT cheating. Cheating is breaking a rule and, as you said, this site doesn't have one against the autorefresh addon. It is not dishonest or unfair to do something staff has given everyone the OK for, reluctant though it may be. It's not even really an advantage since everyone is allowed to use them...

The site often lends itself to the use of this program, the userbase has been repeatedly told they are not breaking the rules by using them, and they spread that knowledge to new users. If you've been told they're AOK since you were a newbie and encouraged to use them ever since, why would you worry now? Knowing you aren't going to get in trouble for using this tool, why would you think twice? Why would anyone who cared at all to win not use one, knowing that most other users would likely be using them and the only way possible to win would be to do the same? And knowing that, why would anyone who isn't using one be surprised not to win?

I'm with Botanist. Except it seems to me that we've already gotten to the point where ARs are necessary for top rewards. (Collecting all the morostide items/enough seasonal currency for the new year of items in any prize shop - even when I do use one I can't keep up!) We're already in a vicious cycle. People use ARs for events and end up with excess currency, they beg for more expensive/variety in prize shops, staff complies, people using ARs still have excess the next time around, but now those not using ARs can't keep up and are saving up their currency to buy everything they're missing or save up for the next year, staff sees our tills full and assumes we need more/more expensive items, if you don't have an AR you are hopelessly behind so you add one too just to keep up with the minimum. They seem pretty necessary to me. Did anyone in the top 10% of this make it there without ever touching an AR?

December 27, 2014, 8:54 am by

The fact that so many people are so upset by the RANDOM Melody items given out is just sad. They did not have to do this even and you are complaining about free prizes. Ungrateful people.

December 27, 2014, 8:30 am by

may i be curious - what was the lowest needed to be in top ten if i may ask ??? for team dolly, does anyone know that ??

December 27, 2014, 8:26 am by

oh damn i didnt make it to the top 10% :) i was aiming for the achievement and title but alas didnt had enough time to get there :(

but i did like the snowball fight it was fun to do in between and a nice surprise, something totaly different and it gave me what the news post told us we that we would get :) i just LOVE that little guy from the trophy very glad with that ( it has been a while that we could earn a trophy and this one looks great !!! thanks subeta-team

a little bit jealous that i choose wrong team because that backbground is very nice

congrats team tobias for winning !!!!

December 27, 2014, 8:00 am by

Just got a comment on my profile from someone who thought I was calling them out specifically. Before anyone else takes it personally, I'm not calling out individuals who used auto refreshers (I couldn't even remember who made the comments I referenced), if anything I'm calling out Subeta's lax rules which only 'frowns upon' using auto refreshers. If we're asked not to use them because they lag the site and stop other people participating, but also told it's not a rule and there's no punishments of course people are going to use them and why wouldn't they?Every man for themselves, right? Just means that soon that'll be the only way to get top prizes in events. It's going to make the site such fun...

Again, I liked this event, and AR users didn't hurt me in any way because I wasn't going for the 10%. I think you gotta do something about it for future events, though, subeta team.

December 27, 2014, 7:34 am by

And I didn't get my sled T_T

December 27, 2014, 7:08 am by

wait, what. people used auto-refreshers. You mean I could have spent millions on snowballs, log onto this site on my other PC and hit an auto refresher for the 9 days or whatever it was on for. checking every so offten incase the "invaled hash" thingy showed up. FFS, why did I do this the hard way of actually hitting f5 every few seconds.

December 27, 2014, 6:56 am by

ToT, Dance, Kiss, flower "events" are exactly that. Events. Not competitions. Auto-refreshers give people an unfair advantage. Therefore, I'm not sure how anyone can think of them as not cheating unless they need a specific rule that says "auto-refreshers not allowed." ...which unfortunately this site does not have. Because what it boils down to... you're using a program / add-on to HELP you when it should just be you and your fingers. See the advantage? See how this can be construed as cheating?

Now, I realize setting up the auto-refresher and keeping it maintained required its own time, but that in NO way can be equated to the work of manually refreshing. I'm sorry, but it can't be compared.

December 27, 2014, 6:05 am by

I was on the Dolly team and threw 30,000 snowballs and got 3 prizes for all my hard work? I am NOT happy at all

December 27, 2014, 5:59 am by

I'm pretty pleased with my score of 5,683 - I stood no chance of getting into the top 10% as I was determined to click myself, and not give in to using an auto refresher (boy do I wish I had stuck with it through the lag before the 5 second timer came in, as the other days I didn't have as much time to be online). Huge congrats to everyone for all the snowballs they flung, whether they threw 3 snowballs, or 100,000 ;)

....and if this will return next year, maybe there could be either some way to stop the auto-refreshers being able to be used (maybe the invalid hash could appear sooner or something), or to have more tasks to do (I like the suggestion of building a fort, gathering snow & providing cocoa - that would give us a bit of variety as well, rather than just hitting f5 until the writing wears off the key 😇)

December 27, 2014, 5:55 am by

I have the Achievment, but please can you give it too all they have over 10k thrown? I have 41k but i think 10k is really amazing! And its Christmas time .

December 27, 2014, 5:50 am by

ok roget the background bit just saw winning team got it

December 27, 2014, 5:49 am by

thanks for the prizes shame both sides did not get the back ground..

December 27, 2014, 5:38 am by

I hope my post isn't being construed as 'mean' to people who threw less than 30k, that's not my intent. I'm not saying 'try harder/don't complain' I'm saying even trying your hardest, you can't always win. By all means, complain, vent, you are entitled to your feelings, but I'm giving perspective on why I figure it's really okay, there's no need to be upset.

From my pov all of this astonishment and irritation at not making the top/getting iffy prizes doesn't make sense. With the mass amount of people joining teams, making the top 10% was a long shot from the start and the prizes were to be random from the start. If you did the math to calculate exactly how many you needed to throw to be in the top, you forgot the 'secret sauce' to make up for slackers which you couldn't possibly know.

People are perfectly justified to be disappointed, but it wasn't unfair. Vent away, even better to those with ideas that can improve the event if they do it again or something similar. But I'm just sayin, no need to be angry at staff over losing. And you still got prizes. It's just a game. And this was just a mini-game of the game.

As to the elephant, I didn't know about them until joining here. I was under the impression that they are commonplace during events with tedious repetition (ToT, Dance, Kiss, flower - is it every event? The site is built for autorefreshing!) and was introduced to them as an acceptable way to make the most of events. People told me they aren't against the rules (and I checked around to confirm that) and I've never heard people get upset about them before this. I've definitely not seen people call it cheating until now, but I suppose that is because in the other events using autorefresh addons doesn't take away from anyone, just adds to what you have. In this case, (probably 90% of) the top 10% using them means no one else can have that title. :/ I imagine half the people using them only do so because it is not considered cheating.

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