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But some users are unable or unwilling to join discord, and the discord does not have a special channel for updates, they're just shared in the general chat. So the purpose of this thread is to post updates in a place that's 1) accessible on-site to all Subeta players, and 2) in a single designated, easy-to-browse space.

All screenshots are followed by a text transcript of what is said in the screenshot. So if images are blocked or you're using a screenreader, you shouldn't be missing out on any info except the specific timestamps, and Keith's chibi discord icon.

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(Do your best to get the context of the updates, but remember people can also join discord themselves if they want to @ staff directly or get further clarification. Just do your best, this is a learning process for everyone. <3)

(Previous to this bit, users were bringing up the issue with Spells Galore (click here for more info) and it wasn't immediately clear to Keith that this was about the legacy shop and not the Kumos shop. A few different users pointed this out and I won't screenshot all of them.)

User: I think the daily buy limit in Kumos is sufficient, if someone really wants to buy out a store without scripts they could try but the limit would stop them. The issue are the legacy stores, especially Spells Galore, where IMO the scripting is clear. Continuously sold out at all hours of the day. When you do see items, it's always the first item in the store - regardless of whether there are higher price or rarity items further down

Keith: I'm working on it folks 🙂

User: Thank you! I hope the legacy spells shop issue is addressed. I'm very curious about that!

Keith: It'll be addressed by teh shop being removed in favor of the kumos version

User: I was thinking it should be addressed by finding out if a script is being used and taking action against the abuser. The Kumos spells shop hasn't been restocking all items.

User: Yeah, is there any way you can check if someone is using a script? Like can you see if someone is online and buying from the shop 24/7, which is humanly impossible 😛

Keith: The goal is to remove the legacy site So my focus is going to be on improving the kumos site based on feedback, and I'm going to be making as few as possible changes to the legacy site.

Keith: I'm not planning to add any kind of detection to the legacy shop, it's very likely we will just be turning off legacy shops entirely very soon. i mean, quite literally the version of php that runs the legacy site is not going to be supported at some point soon

User: where is the best place to give kumos feedback? there are some specific things about legacy that i LOVE that aren’t on kumos yet and i’m not sure if they’re in the plans!

Keith: it’s honestly here. i look at the forums when i get a chance, but i am able to get feedback faster here. if you make a forum post somewhere with all of your feedback together and poke me when im here

User: Not the first time lack of staff communication has been brought up but I’ll bring it up every single time.

Keith: You can bring it up! I'm the only person who can program on the site, I haven't been paid to do it in 4 years because Subeta just doesn't make that much money. It's run by a skeleton crew of mostly people who have part or full time side jobs because Subeta doesn't make that much money.

If the communication in the last few years has made you want to cancel your subscription, unfortuantely it's not going to change. These kind of sites went out of fashion a long time ago (as the VCs who poured millions into the Neopets revamp have seen) - we're seeing most sites the age of Subeta shut down (if they didn't 15 years ago). It's honestly a miracle that it still exists. If you aren't getting value of your subscription, it really wont' hurt my feelings if you cancel!

Keith: The cash shop is entirely in the process of being moved over to Kumos including the item shop (which you could find if you were crafting with searching URLs!) and the subscriptions. Once they're all moved over together I planne to post about it ❤️ There is meant to be a little box at the top of the site that alerts people whent eh site changed, but that hasn't worked since I pushed it out :/ If we bring on people to do things like communication, or take messages from here back to the forums, I get accused of abusing people for free labor on the flip side! i would love to have a little group of volunteers who could ensure that items get moved around correctly, that forums get responded to, etc

Keith: (that’s to say pls keep giving feedback- and i will keep getting to it! except things like the site being down take priority, and my time is really limited!)

User: Are kumos quests supposed to only be giving 7 csc for completing them? :hm: people on the forums are saying they’re now getting 7 csc instead of 20.

Keith: Yup, they’ve been reduced. 20 per day was just too much, and i said in their launch post they could be pushed down

User: Why did the fundraiser idea never come to be?

Keith: Honestly, because then I have to do something with the funds that are raised, like hire a team, bring on programmers, etc. And I just don't have the time to run Subeta full time, picking up steam and trying to run it like a startup again, I've got a job! I don't have the time to put together a fundraising package, make a bunch of promises that are hopefully attainable, do the work required that comes before something like a kickstarter (a TON of work) while running the site, moving features over to a platform that will hopefully run for another 10 years without a ton of intervention Unfortunately everything requires an investment in time, and that's the thing we've got a lot less of today than we did when I was a teenager

It's very annoying to have like, responsibilities and a mortgage and people who rely on me 😛

March 31

Keith: I’m really trying to get away from all of the things that we just lifted from Neopets without questioning why or how they fit into Subeta.

Keith: but i guess the point i’m trying to get across, is this is my sandbox. i get to make changes and try new things, because it’s mine. i appreciate the feedback, i tweak and make major changes based on that feedback, but at the end of the day it’s my subeta. and so sometimes the answer for why i’ve changed something, like shops, while rewriting them is because i wanted to try something different while porting it over. we’ve got months until the version of php that runs the legacy subeta is no longer supported. and the only thing moving forward porting subeta to a sustainable and runable future, is my interest in doing it. we do not have the money to pay any kind of engineer, from any part of the world, to do this work

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October 4th (Regarding fishing)

Keith: i would just... ignore the prizes. it's really hard to get right - they were determined when i made the feature. Like, sP prizes under 500,000 can flucuate in a day depending on just about anythin i'm going to continue working on them (and i appreciate seeing all of them, it helps calibrate) when i say ignore, i mean... give it a lot of grace haha anyway i mentioned that we found some artwork that hadn't been used for a feature a long time ago and i'm able to basically use the fishing system on that 👀 [photo of “beach exploration” using a “lvl 1 metal detector”]

Keith: you will only get trash and common prizes in the first level and common only from getting the spot first difficulty level*

User: I have another question: is our pet’s fishing level intended to pass our own? I’m still on level 17 and my pet is about to be on level 19.

Keith: They level a little bit faster because I anticipated people wanting to maybe switch them up a little bit. They're meant to increase a little bit faster than that, in fact (and their level doesn't matter / change the game at all, it's just a RPG value)