Okay so breaking down, I'm not sure bluff is supposed to work like this, but, if the dice master has ANY number of the die he's claiming, he wins the challenge, even if he doesn't actually have that many, but if YOU try to bluff this same way, you lose? so like if he says he has at least 4 threes, but he has 3 dice, as long as he has one three, challenging him results in a loss, making the game nigh impossible to play, because he can bluff your outrageous claims and cost you the win, but you cant' do the same, even when he's claiming more dice than he actually has or is totally, 100% actually bluffing, and its confusing. doesn't matter whether or not he actually has 4 3s, or 3 6s, etc. because he only needs one to keep winning
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The bids take into account all of the dice in play (and 1s are wild) so if he has 3, 3, 4 and you have 1, 2, 3 there are four 3s in play
Just want to confirm what said, the bids take into account all the dice left. If that isn't clear in the rules, please let me know and I'm happy to update them!
This question/error comes up pretty frequently. I've just re-read the rules and they really aren't clear that ALL dice, yours and your opponents are in play. There are two references and both are vague.
First it says "the dice they believe to be in play." This is an indication that the player doesn't know all the dice in play and since you know all the dice in your own hand, you have to assume it follows that your opponent's dice are also in play, but you have to read carefully and make the inference.
Second is "which judging by this hand alone is true" - but this hand could be referring to this example, or it could mean this hand AND your opponents...again you have to make a deduction, its never outright stated.
I would like to see another bullet point added that says it outright:
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ohh my god, I didn't realize the 1s were wild cards. I was sure the game was broken. Maybe I should've reviewed the rules instead of just going into it >-< to be fair my family has never played with 1s as wild cards Going forward it's going to be a lot less frustrating!