Edit bc I type too much!

After reading all your guys opinions I understand the different point of view. I get both sides ! Thank you for enlightening me, seriously. I used to think the room was more helpful than not ;-;

Didn't mean to offend anyone, just as another person with struggles I used to like to vent on there !

vent room? if you mean the debate forum, thats been gone for years now, if ya mean something else its news to me

no, it was a thread somewhere in chit-chat forum, advice sub forum.

I agree it should return as it does help to de-stress from life. If it can return and it could help, have people write in spoilers or tag with triggers if that helps?

I have mixed feelings about the thread's closure. On the one hand, I can totally understand why Subeta would want to keep it closed from a business' perspective (given some of the posts there). And yeah, there is a site feature--Oatmeal--to let users vent, which is a handy thing.

On the other hand, Oatmeal isn't always a viable alternative--sometimes just knowing someone out there might hear/relate is comforting. I'm also pretty sure that some of my posts in that thread have led to users reaching out via anonymous gifts, which have always cheered me up, so the thread can enable some positive, supportive connections.

I don't know if I agree. Reading through the posts on the last couple of pages, it didn't really feel appropriate for something like Subeta. Or particularly helpful. While there may have been people private messaging the posters to help, just looking at the thread itself was almost scary. Seeing people post about awful things and just get ignored doesn't seem healthy.

I do think redirecting to actual resources is the better call here.

I agree. It helps most users. But bc someone says something more intense it's everyone else's fault and must be shut down...doesn't seem fair.

I agree. I among other people have anon gifted to let people know we hear them and wanna help on a silent standpoint. Just what they would want. It's to hear and feel but with safety.

I'm not surprised they shut it down. I don't know if we're playing the same game because I have seen Staff shut down more tame conversations because they don't trust us to not get into arguments. Sometimes they shut down conversations because they are essentially too negative or they get the idea that it might be.

Personally, I'd find another venue to vent because you have to be more careful about your tone and words on Subeta.

are we on neopets or subeta?

I thoight this place was a freedom space

I'm really on the fence about the removal of this thread. I've used it several times in the past and even recently and it's a good place to vent. There are posts that were quite hard to read and I agree that Oatmeal is an alternative. That being said, I personally do not feel any relief from a virtual goat. I've myself sent a few anon gifts to people that either touched me or to whom I could relate too.

I'd have prefered a trigger warning before entering the thread instead of banning it permanently. I feel like everything is slowly getting diluted and fitting strict guidelines nowaday.

I don't quite agree to opening up a vent room (not that I saw the first one) and I can see why staff decided to remove it entirely. It sounded like a big can of worms waiting to spill out if something was said inappropriately. I say 'inappropriate' in such a lose manner because while mental health and real life issues are not bad topics, they can get out of hand if you bring up real legal problems. A lot of avi sites deter from you bringing up extremely sensitive material just because they don't want to deal with any sort of repercussions on the user discussion.

Subeta has not been a freedom space. I'm not sure what this site was before but I've seen way more radical discussions on gaia that were no where friendly to other users and basically a free for all debate. I have never seen Subeta be that lean to a discussion- even warn a thread because it was seen as dogpiling a user who said an extremely unpopular opinion. I'm not sure that was free speech.

I more so agree with Subeta's decision to removing the forum entirely, whatever reason for it. Though, if you feel you want to vent your issues in a safe space with strangers, there are discord servers or maybe even personal friend groups who will hear you out in a more private space?

If you want to be mad, be mad at me.

I reported a post on this mentioned thread that I felt was unsafe for Subeta and for the user in question. If that's worthy of such ire, then this site isn't at all what I originally joined.

I don't think your report in particular caused any sort of effect to take place but it could have been a reason in a pile of numerous ones. We just don't know. You pointing out a post that looked unsafe doesn't make you any sort of person to blame, it's good that you are looking out for others!

The timing was too close and too perfect. And it wouldn't be the first time I've ended up in someone's bad books for looking out for someone else.

Imma be real honest, I had no idea that thread existed, but holy shit just from reading a few posts from it I can see why it was closed. It’s not healthy to have an unfiltered public internet space to let yourself spiral into anger and s****dal feelings. Beyond that, it’s awful to expect staff who have to moderate the forums to be okay with reading that stuff all the time. Not to mention the immense liability if someone actually unalives after posting there. I’m so glad that Galaxia ended the thread with links to various crisis supports. I say this as someone who has spent 10 years digging myself out of that hole without access to therapy, before anyone calls me out for being insensitive. There’s no way that thread should be reopened.

After reading all your guys opinions I understand the different point of view. I get both sides ! Thank you for enlightening me, seriously. Im being for real.....I used to think the room was more helpful than not ;-; I just remember and being comforted with that venting and sending gifts anon wise for awhile !

Didn't mean to offend anyone, just as another person with struggles I used to like to vent on there !

I wasn't trying to start an upsetting topic. ;-;

I went to the thread. I read the last couple of pages.

Sure, there were several posts that seemed totally appropriate venting, not scary to read, and many gave me feelings of sympathy. I’d be totally open to keeping the thread open just for those posts. I feel these posts deserve a space.

But then there were the other, more angry/violent/dangerous/idealising self-harm/etc. posts. No. Big nope from me. Not appropriate for this site. Not healthy for others to read. These users do need help and probably somewhere to vent/someone to talk to, but this isn’t the space.

I genuinely considered blocking some users over some of their posts, and I’ve only ever blocked one person (who sent me a couple of creepy comments).

(I wrote this before reading the above post, just forgot to hit post for a while as I’m working.)

I didn't realize it was so scary/sad either. Like I said I've used a few times years ago or gifted etc. But I went back also and understood more, sometimes it takes others insight to realize what's really happening now and how it's different !

I feel bad if I upset someone one....but like I said I didn't realize how it changed so much from what it used to be ;-;

I'm not upset, no worries there! I can see where it might have been genuinely helpful for some people. I'm glad it's been helpful to you at some point. I do understand how nice it is to vent and know is somebody is listening, I just have ways outside of Subeta for that.

Thank you so much for being receptive, I really appreciate that you took the time to read what people were saying and saw how the tone of the thread changed to be less safe over time. Truly thanks <3

No offence/upset from me. :) Thanks for listening to the feedback! I do support venting (and the anon gifting/uplifting side is sweet), but some of the posts in there were... definitely scary to read, and not something I'd like to find onsite.