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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago Official
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SailorButtress

Hello, everyone!

New Subeta is a platform for a lot of fun changes for the site, such as border cosmetics and better organization across different features, and it has also been a way to increase account security. However, security is always a balance between assurance and usability and the current method is not the answer for both. Given that, Keith is looking into new ways to handle this. Options to pursue include building an authentication protocol provider, which is more secure and cheaper but will involve more time and development, or using an external service which will be require payment but would also require some budgeting from Subeta (not from users)!.

However, Keith is going to able to devote more time to the site and finding the best solution, along with putting together a plan for adding programming assistance. Working on the log-in issues has not fallen by the wayside! It is in active discussion and in progress, and will be covered in more detail as we have it. Thank you!

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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mmmh81

So it gonna turn to a pay site? Or i am miss understanding?

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Yeah I didn't understand this post at all...

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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or using an external service which will be require payment but would require payment.
Is this supposed to be secure and faster instead of....double payment? 😁

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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or using an external service which will be require payment but would require payment.

I think that's supposed to be 'an external service would require payment' (by Keith), considering self-building an authentication server is marked as the opposite (' which is more secure and cheaper but will involve more time and development'' - it's cheaper because he can make it himself, it'd just take more effort).

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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SailorButtress

Er, yes, have edited to 'or using an external service which will be more convenient but would also require some budgeting from Subeta (not from users)!' Thank you!

There are no plans for Subeta to become a pay-only site and Keith specifically wants to avoid that route. This is mostly to let people know that we are aware of issues with New Subeta log-ins and are looking at alternatives.

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Dreamfyre

Thank you for clearing that up! :)

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago Official
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SailorButtress

Monthly Subscriptions and CSC purchases help with this and other site costs, no need to pay extra!

That's it exactly. We're considering the trade-off carefully, considering the pros and cons; building is more time and effort and users working with the development, whereas buying does require budgeting but may be a smoother user experience overall.

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Ok. Now it makes sense. I was really worried that Subeta was going to become a pay site for users. Thanks for letting us know what's going on. :)





Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Thank you for the update. Thank you for taking the time to explore alternatives to the login issues. Hugs!!!

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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thanks for updating this post to clarify it, i read it when it first posted and was very confused, appreciate it!

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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This is beautiful news to hear! I'm so sick of having to open incognito mode every time I need to check the forums on mobile... It's wonderful just to hear that this is being looked into, thank you

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Thank you for the update!

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Tian Shi

Is this why I have to constantly have to log out and log back in when playing from my cell phone? So annoying!

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Taelia

It's okay, I have the amogus symbol in my password 👍

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Thanks for the info!

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Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Just wanted to come here and say I really appreciate Keith's continued dedication. I was on Subeta in the early years many years ago before coming back and making this current account. Keith has been such a constant on this site and I think that's awesome. He even shouted me out on my birthday during a live stream once XD

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
Mort
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Thank you for letting us know!

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
frederick
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If Keith is looking to add MFA authentication my wishlist would be: time based token (requires users to have a device to run the client) FIDO2 key (requires users to have two physical keys)

There's also: SQRL (requires users to run the client on all their devices) (actually, does’t look viable yet) SMS (requires Subeta to keep personal information it shouldn't otherwise have any business collecting, SMS isn't really secure, not recommended by NIST) Email (requires the least onboarding, but is only as secure as your email is)

Jan 22, 2022 4 years ago
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Thank You for the update! I know how hard y'all must be working behind the scenes.

                                                             
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