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Dec 24, 2019 6 years ago
Trees
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This is probably going to get a lot of reasons why this shouldn't happen, but I just wanted to throw it out there.

I just thought that if there are ever multiple things ready to happen on the site at the same time then it might be better to announce and release them at the same time in the same news post instead of doing them separately. That way, people won't get too impatient about certain things being put off by other things, and not everyone will be interested in some news posts, but if they covered more than one thing, there might be something that everyone will like.

Again, this is probably going to get very little support. If the staff ever consider doing it, they could have a poll about it to see how many people would prefer it to the posts currently only covering one thing most of the time. There is probably some reason that I'm missing, but I thought I'd share this idea anyway.

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Dec 24, 2019 6 years ago
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I like this this for the ideas to did cover and I would agree with this but this would be an issue for people who do the news posts.

Why I don't really like this idea,

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  • More than one person actually does the news posts, so it would get rather tideous since people are on rotating schedules to where they would have to edit news posts for new information, Double check news posts to see what has or hasn't been released as probably deemed to previous discussions as to what is going to be released for that day.
  • Since not everyone who does the news posts are on the same schedule or same set of responsibilities, I think that why some news posts are rotated out during the day. Like lets say an event starts, and theres battle challengers introduced. Amber/Ariel and release the main jist of the event details in the news post but they are not the battle admins so they can't really say they'll be able to do a same post without prior admin authorization to ensure proper things are going out correctly and the right wave of challengers. Situations like that would occur.
  • Plus its fun to stagger things out throughout a day, like you wouldn't wantt o say release new shop items and encourage people to flock there and then release a token shop restock at the same time. 1, for the suspense and fun factor for users and 2, to not cause a huge server taxation/pagnation for people scurrying to do things. With so much added in one time, currently that is what would happen and the newer database code needs time to adjust to something like that.
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    Dec 24, 2019 6 years ago
    Trees
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    I didn't really think about the different staff. For some reason I was under the impression that one or two people did the posts once the other staff had whatever the posts were about ready.

    Also, we don't actually get that many news posts. Not counting the pet spotlight or weekend quests, we only get, like, one or two posts per day, and sometimes none at all. It's only on rare occasions that we get more than two throughout the day. I get surprised when we get a news post in the middle of the day in my time zone. And at the moment, I also feel like once we've had an afternoon news post, that's it, no more until tomorrow.

    Maybe what we really need is for more than one thing to be announced and released on the same day rather than the same post, but that would bring up the problem of people not seeing the news posts below it if they don't bother to read the whole page, even if they are a few hours apart.

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    Dec 24, 2019 6 years ago
    Darkrai
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    I don't think we really get that many instances of things happening at the same exact time that we would need this? I wouldn't want to see the news posts edited because it's way less obvious that there are multiple things going on in one post, or that it's been edited to add a secondary announcement, so multiple things in one news post would have to all be released at the same time, and I don't see a point in mashing releases/announcements together just in order to be able to do this.

    Also, long news posts can be harder to read. I know the text is generally broken up into paragraphs and sometimes also split by images, but it can still be a wall of text sometimes (Survival and Masquerade come to mind as Really Big news posts already...I really wouldn't want another non-related thing tacked onto one of those just because it got released on the same day and those can already be hard to parse)

    Dec 26, 2019 6 years ago
    Solsticesprite
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    There isn't anything wrong with this Suggestion all by itself, except the reason given is that folks might complain/be mad. Long posts don't get read by those very same people, or if they are they don't remember the whole thing. No complaints will be saved, so combining them won't really fix this.

    I favor multiple small posts because of the way that Google indexes Subeta makes it easier to find the right News post sometimes. Google uses other people's understanding of things to refine it's searches, but there aren't enough players searching with them or they are being all crusty with us. If the News post only has a title that's about what the one subject it's about it's easier to find.

    Dec 26, 2019 6 years ago
    Trees
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    I guess I'm just annoyed by the fact that sometimes they add new items to the directory so you think they will be released soon, but then they add some different items and release those first and the other ones don't come until, like, 12 hours later. That's why I said maybe we should have more than one thing released on the same day, a few hours apart, but like I said, they might not want to do that because then the other posts will be pushed down more. I don't know, I just think maybe they should have more content released when it's ready, but still find a way to space it out enough without it being too long between posts.

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    Dec 26, 2019 6 years ago
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    Just because the items themselves are ready, doesn't necessarily mean that everything else related to those items is ready. It depends on where they're going and what they're for. A lot of times, I think items may get added to the directory early because the artwork was turned in by the artist, and another staff member decided to get them uploaded while they had time so they would be ready once the rest of the stuff related to them is ready.

    I would imagine that if it's just new items for a restocking shop or some other currency shop, it would be easy enough for a staff member such as or or whoever to just add them to whichever shop and do a news post about it.

    But if it's challenger loot items or items for an event or something, there's probably other stuff involved somewhere on the back end that needs to be done by other people. New battle challengers have more programming and stuff involved that's done by the battle admins, and whenever events are launched, they probably need to have things checked over by a few people to make sure everything will (hopefully) be working as it should.

    Also, I wouldn't really consider items that have been added to the directory but not released yet to be, like, "late" or anything just because other stuff gets released before them. We don't always know what the plans are for certain things, especially brand new items that haven't been officially released. Looking at new stuff in the directory before it comes out is just like a sneak preview of what's coming, but it's not an official schedule of what's to be released and when.

    Sorry this ended up being kind of long, but I generally agree with what others have already stated. Not every news post needs to be of equal importance to everyone, and I think it's kind of nice to not have too much crammed into one post. I find it easier to keep track of all of the separate things going on, and it also makes it a bit easier to find old news posts if you're looking for previously stated information like mentioned.

    Dec 26, 2019 6 years ago Official
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    Quote by pointycatears
    I guess I&;m just annoyed by the fact that sometimes they add new items to the directory so you think they will be released soon, but then they add some different items and release those first and the other ones don&;t come until, like, 12 hours later. That&;s why I said maybe we should have more than one thing released on the same day, a few hours apart, but like I said, they might not want to do that because then the other posts will be pushed down more. I don&;t know, I just think maybe they should have more content released when it&;s ready, but still find a way to space it out enough without it being too long between posts.

    Sometimes we add things early that aren't released that day. Just because you see something pop up in the item directory doesn't mean it's going to be out immediately. I personally add things for testing purposes, for events, for melody, etc early sometimes. Sometimes in case of challengers, the battle admins get on at one time so I give them items/images and then we get the programming done or whatever later.

    and I favor doing multiple posts throughout the day in some cases because it gets people back on the news page. While you might enjoy a long post of everything for the day, some users prefer smaller posts. Some people hate scrolling, so people hate multiple alerts. We're never going to make everyone happy.

    Dec 26, 2019 6 years ago
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    I feel like if a news post was about a lot of things, it would be harder for me to back track to the thing I'm looking for. I'm super dependent on titles for example, and if it go really long or end up really short (just new items vs news item in this shop), I would feel like it would harder for me to know what I'm looking for.

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    Dec 27, 2019 6 years ago
    Trees
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    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. I just wanted to know why you didn't do this, and now I have my answer.

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    Jan 2, 2020 6 years ago
    Rogue
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    I don't support this suggestion. I much prefer the way things are done now.

    Quote by Amber

    and I favor doing multiple posts throughout the day in some cases because it gets people back on the news page. While you might enjoy a long post of everything for the day, some users prefer smaller posts. Some people hate scrolling, so people hate multiple alerts. We&;re never going to make everyone happy.
    I am one of those people that prefer smaller posts because that way I'm less likely to miss information in the post. A smaller post is more to the point and tells me what I need/want to know. I also like being redirected to the news page because it has me look at the sidebar again. In December it reminded me of Mysterious Melody and got me to participate a few more times!

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    I feel like if a news post was about a lot of things, it would be harder for me to back track to the thing I&;m looking for. I&;m super dependent on titles for example, and if it go really long or end up really short (just new items vs news item in this shop), I would feel like it would harder for me to know what I&;m looking for.
    I agree with about the post titles. I would have a harder time finding information if it was all jumbled and the thread titles were vague. I find it much more functional separated out.

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