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Oct 13, 2019 6 years ago
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Life's gotten busy, and I often don't have the time or the energy to be on here every day.

I've been buying week-long gold account medallions here and there, but I often end up wasting several days due to my busyness. And I can't always predict how busy I will get even a few days in advance, so I feel hesitant buying for a week when I think there's a good chance most of it will go to waste.

What I'm proposing is a new, shorter-length GA medallion called "weekend" medallions (or 3-day medallions if you don't want people to get confused with the 1-week medallions, thinking that they only last 5 days or something). They would be 100 CSC - only 50 CSC less than the week one, but they would last just three days with the full GA privileges.

At 100 CSC, the daily rate is 33 CSC/day. The 1-week one is about 21 CSC/day, and they go down from there the bigger you go. So I think that these would be financially beneficial to Subeta too, because people like me who don't like to "waste" days would be more prone to buy weekend medallions and spend more CSC than buy a whole week that may not be used.

Idk. Would anyone else be interested in such an item?

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Oct 13, 2019 6 years ago
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Crotchety

Sorry no support.

I get where you're going here, however I feel like its "gaming" the system. I don't actually think the 1 week GA is a great idea either, but its already here and taking it away would likely cause more headaches than leaving it be.

I don't want to see the 'value' of the GA watered down by adding options like getting the auto-pricer as a separate thing and I feel a 3 day GA would have the same sort of result.

Oct 13, 2019 6 years ago
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Could you elaborate on how this is gaming the system? My understanding of that phrase is that it is finding some sort of loophole in order to get an advantage, and I don't see how that would happen here.

I would rather spend 500 CSC on five consecutive weekend GAs than 500 CSC on a whole month GA, because I know that I would more likely use them to their full worth. And if the weekend GAs continue not to exist, I would not be more likely to buy a whole month GA. If the one-week ones became nonexistent, I still wouldn't be more likely to buy a whole month. As I stated before, I just don't have the time for it to be "worth" it, in my eyes. So something that makes me satisfied and gives this site more money seems like a win-win to me.

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Oct 14, 2019 6 years ago
Lypsyl
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Crotchety

its less of an issue now, but it used to be you got 5 added pets for buying a GA - so you buy the cheapest GA you get 5 pets forever. That no longer happens, of course, but now you get extra shops/galleries with a GA and you also get to keep those forever. You get a trophy and additional inventory locks that also don't disappear (though its only somewhat useful if you ever use any of the locked items). So you spend minimum CSC and get some lifetime bonuses.

The one thing the 1 week GA does do, I think, is give people a taste of the real advantages of a GA for long enough to get used to it and miss those privileges when they're gone. I don't think a 3 day GA would provide the same addictive power - I wouldn't be enjoying the site as I usually do, I would be frantically working to get everything done that I needed to while it was active. It wouldn't add fun and I wouldn't be associating it with good things, only with extra work and stress. It almost gives a GA a feeling of dread, not benefit. It would give me a disincentive to spend more, buy longer lasting GAs.

Like grinding in video games - its a means to get to where the fun is, not fun in itself.

Oct 14, 2019 6 years ago
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I wouldn&;t be enjoying the site as I usually do, I would be frantically working to get everything done that I needed to while it was active. It wouldn&;t add fun and I wouldn&;t be associating it with good things, only with extra work and stress. It almost gives a GA a feeling of dread, not benefit. It would give me a disincentive to spend more, buy longer lasting GAs.

It's funny that you put it that way, because that's exactly how I feel about longer GAs.

The biggest benefits I find from gold accounts are:

  • 5 extra quests per quest-giver
  • Shortened training times
  • Extra "get another battler" option for Battle Quests
  • Extra inventory space (but mostly because of the extra quests)
  • Quick stock moving things to collections
  • Autopricing

The first four items require at least some grinding for each of them, but if I have a GA and don't take advantage of them, I feel like I've wasted my money.

Trophies are rather meaningless, aren't they? Whether they stay around or don't seem to be a moot point.

But I can see the concern about having extra shops/galleries. This is not a perk I take advantage of or seem much point in, but I guess some people do. I can also see the point for extra layers on a HA. How popular these "perks" actually are would determine how much gaming would actually go on in this way. But when we had extra pet slots, if we got rid of a pet, we didn't get to keep the slot. I imagine it's the same with the HA - if you change your look, you don't get to keep the extra spaces. Why can't the shop be made the same way? If you lose the GA, you can't put more things into the shop.

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Oct 14, 2019 6 years ago
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I imagine it&;s the same with the HA - if you change your look, you don&;t get to keep the extra spaces. Why can&;t the shop be made the same way? If you lose the GA, you can&;t put more things into the shop.
This is kind of already how shops work? I don't like the idea of tweaking it to fit exactly what you've said by making the shops effectively unusable when your GA runs out, but you already lose the increased item space

I'm not personally opposed to the idea of a weekend GA, but I feel like the 1-week GA already fills the limited-time niche pretty well. I'm not sure a shorter version would really benefit the site (in fact, I think I've heard negative things about even the 1-week GA before, but it's been a while)

Oct 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Honestly this is one of those things that, if implemented, doesn't hurt anyone and I can't see a valid argument here against it. For people who are in a situation similar to the OP it's a great thing, and in the end the site gets more money which is obviously good.

For people who would never use it, myself included, it doesn't hurt to have it handy and I don't see how it would be gaming the system at all. So yeah I'm all in favor, especially because I feel like with most Subeta players being adults with limited free time having the option for a shorter GA for when they can put more time into the site and not waste the days they can't would be great.

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Apr 17, 2020 5 years ago
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Support, Tbh I’ve only had GA when the site gifted all users a GA, and the only thing I use is auto-pricer lol. I don’t want to devote that much time on SB to do quests or do other things bc they don’t give out good enough prices to worth my time o/

But yo, I get it when you say you want to utilize your money, the feeling of having a paid perk on but don’t have the time to use it sucks.

Apr 17, 2020 5 years ago
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Yeah, I'm a similar boat like you and . I worry about my wasting my week GA days due to busyness, so I don't often get them until I'm out of school. Heck, I prefer the other GAs because I feel I have more chances to autoprice my shop with 3-months or higher GAs.

Maybe we should have a 2 week GA if a weekend GA isn't feasible?

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Apr 17, 2020 5 years ago
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Support. Whenever I think of subscribing to a new service, I always question how much I'm really going to use it daily/weekly, and weighing the cost against how often I CAN use it. I'm in the same boat as - if I don't use my GA extra quests and etc. for most of the days of the month if I get a 1 month GA, I'm not going to buy a month of GA time.

In fact, that's the reason I almost exclusively buy 1 week GAs; I can set aside a week to dedicate to earning more currency on the site, and don't have to keep doing the extra work over the long run. (It's also why I never choose the 3 month GA totem from the loyalty box, since I know I can't dedicate the time for it to be "worth it" over such a long period.)

I feel like having a weekend GA is a fair way to give people a demo run of certain GA features, since it isn't terribly difficult to save up 100 CSC with Morty Cards and the bathhouse. It's less of a commitment, so people can see if they'll really make use of the bonus quests, autopricer, etc. The pets and some other features will stick around, but when the site has significant lag/downtime, people usually get some free GA time anyway, so I'd say the permanent features are minimal benefits compared to the ongoing ones.

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Apr 17, 2020 5 years ago
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Hondashi

I dunno, I'm on the fence. I feel like people would just get a weekend gold account for the weekend quests. But then again, how does that hurt me in any way? It's no different from other people doing the weekend quests. I think a better option would be a GA 'pause' button that you can turn off if you're not playing, but I guess then people would be like 'that's cheating!!!' on that too. Hmm.

Apr 17, 2020 5 years ago
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Not everyone here can dump how much ever money into this site for GAs. I certainly can't. Especially with the pandemic and now the job market that's mocking me from a distance.

This has my full support. I'd love to see something like this implemented because THEN, that would encourage those who were otherwise on the fence to maybe buy a longer GA in the future. GASP. How awful. (Sarcasm abounds.)

But seriously. Want, could/would use, can see benefits from. Support.

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Apr 23, 2020 5 years ago Official
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This is unlikely to happen. I've had to say this on a few topics, but, unfortunately we're a business. We can't build a business on what is meant to be a subscription model (a month long upgraded account) that instead lets people just use it for the exact times that they're online. No other subscription model works like that.

Instead, we are looking to increase the benefits of subscribing monthly, and adding some extra perks (monthly unique items, CW vouchers, etc) to make it worth it not just for auto pricing / questing :)

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Apr 24, 2020 5 years ago Official
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Locking up as there is an official answer above.


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