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Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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I have been working on a table of stat boosters and valuing each one based upon their use and the variable to the table is the value placed on each stat. I have come up with the following valuations and I would like to have a discussion about what people think about them and what price they place on each stat.

Level - (200,000)sp Speed - 150,000sp Defense - 250,000sp Strength - 350,000sp Health - 425,000sp Intelligence - 700,000sp

Intelligence is low compared to what the going rate is for Shinwas Sealed Scroll of Dark Magic and Shinwas Flower of Morning (~1.5mm), however for non max users like me I don't value it nearly as high.

This might be a completely academic discussion and many of you might not see value in having it, however I would like to get some feedback.

For a purely hypothetical situation, if my pet is currently valued at 3.199billion, at my assumed prices it would cost me that amount of use stat boosters to double its stats. Obviously the first stats were gathered using many different very cheaper methods and the cost to achieve those stats are likely closer to 400mm.

Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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Honestly, other than level, that seems about accurate based on how useful the stat is.


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Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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Personally I'd put level at 0 because I would never use a booster to train it

I also consider intel to be worth about 1mil a point.

The others are generally accurate though considering those prices, its only worthwhile imo to buy boosters at tier 11 (to get access to t12 weapons) and at tier 13 (if you want to cap) Otherwise, exp costs are relatively low for the other tiers and its way more efficient.

Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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Personally I&;d put level at 0 because I would never use a booster to train it

If I'm out of tomes and laurels, I'll use Shinwas Level Potion when I've trained Galaxielle's defence and speed to the max for her current level (strength and health only increase through EXP and boosters, those other two stats I mostly increase through training).

Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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Honestly, I might be a bad battler in admitting this but after like, tier 5 I barely bother with the TC because I forget to click it and I hate seeing uneven stats (all of my pets have stats that end in like 00 or 25 lol). I mostly train through exp, where I can just ignore the 2.5x limit.

I can see people using level boosters, I just wouldn't personally.

Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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I also wouldn't boost level, but I guess I could see the point in giving it some kind of value. It'd be like tuna to me though, "market value".

Of course I would never boost speed either, and value it at 0 SP per, but again there are people that would pay for it so that's just my useless opinion. :) I have a low speed build as my main and ¯(ツ)/¯ idk I just love the other stats more. I'll trade all my speed boosters for everyone else's boosters ;)

Intel is a very valuable stat and the most obnoxious to procure. Overall I agree with the general order the list is in, although again I think all of them are kind of like tuna - they will fluctuate at least somewhat with the market value.

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Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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The reason I set levels at negative is because to many levels end up increasing training center costs. But I accept others valuing it at something. I only get levels from Tomes or laurels, and I am basically limited to how many tomes I can use by the amount of levels I need

Sep 30, 2019 6 years ago
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By your math Tomes would be valued at 3.35mil so either your numbers or the entire concept is flawed off the bat. (and that is including putting levels at -200K, which i'll get to in a sec)

I think valuing levels at -200K is probably wrong, none of the level booster prices actually reflect something like this compared to something like a LEP. If you do the math on the training center you really don't save a ton of sP, and if your goal is to compete for the top pet with something like 8K+ intel eventually, using the training center you cost yourself more than you will ever save.

I have tried to do this excercise a couple times and what I always come up with is that it is just fundementally flawed and the math never adds up because there are not enough people still playing to maintain a market that makes sense over a large number of items. The constant supply of tomes vastly outstrips the demand of them compared to the supply of the other stat boosters.

If any of the stats are fixed, its intel, which actually does still have a healthy market for the non tome boosters, and that market usually values int at 1mil+.

If you then apply that to tomes, which usually end up selling for 2.4-2.8mil that means you are usally getting 8 more stats on top of your 2int for 800K, so each of them are about 100K each. Even dropping down the price of intel to 700K puts the price of a stat at 175K (and even then that would probably break down to something like SPD=100K, STR/DEF=175K, HP=250K, LVL=0)

but this breaks down because people value intel at different points in their battle careers depending on how many books they have read, and what their end goal is.

Right now the market doesn't make sense because people are buying and using stat boosters at 2 different prices which is a consequence of subetas low user base that sets up a couple of different arbitrage situations because transaction costs are high with the scarcity of demand..

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Oct 31, 2019 6 years ago
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I have a question

How many Intelligence points = 1 AP

Oct 31, 2019 6 years ago
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16 :) but you have to read a book in order for the AP to get unlocked!

Oct 31, 2019 6 years ago
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Thanks! ah so high, I thought maybe 10 stat boosters for intelligence count too, correct

Oct 31, 2019 6 years ago
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Yep! Generally, books are worth reading up until 1mil cos thats where intel boosters generally stay

Oct 31, 2019 6 years ago
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Sapherea

ok cool, thank you!

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