I love having new skins each year but it really makes me bummed that there have been no Survival or Zombie related plot-lines since the beginning. I think this thread should now be a suggestion thread for survival plots.

Why should strains stop coming? As long as the event is ongoing - we should have new strains, this is a major part of the hype?

Bright Bite looks toxic-wasty enough to qualify - it has some fallout influences in the design.

Also, Lovitol isn't a strain btw. It is a joke item that doesn't count as a strain at all.

Intriguing. I guess I'm super neutral about it haha. I like the general creativity of the artists coming up with cool strain ideas every year, but I also don't use the zombie skins myself so I wouldn't be at a loss. And changing things up is always interesting. I figure it would need to be balanced out with a big plot, or something just as new and fresh.

They once tried to do this, to stop doing zombie strains. One year we didn't have them. There was a lot of backlash and it was the most boring and forgettable survival. The next year they tried to remedy it with temporary zombie vials. Still not good enough. The following year they brought back the zombie skin process.

This suggestion has already been tested and the users have shown what they want. Keep the zombie strains coming.

The zombie strains are not only my favorite aspect of Survival, but it is one of my favorite activities on Subeta as a whole. I would be super bummed if there were no more zombie strains (cough cough 2013).

I mean I don't see any benefit of them stopping the strains. Being amazing or being very good strains is up to interpretation. There isn't a single strain I dislike and I have been here from the beginning.

i mean. staff can make brand new fun activities for survival and still release cool zombie strains?? i don't see why we have to have one or the other.

Honestly the zombie strains are what make survival feel really unique to me. I look forward to seeing where each strain goes and what it becomes. I'm always surprised each year, too. If it were just releasing thematic items, it'd be too much like other events.

Given how loose the definition of "zombie" is on this site in the first place (like, is a moth monster or sea slug truly a zombie? not really), I don't think the artists will run out of ideas for a long time. Subeta's got some of the most skilled designers out there, and I love to see what they do with different stages and themes. :D

I'm not sure I can even express how totally disappointed I was that my very first Survival where I was so looking forward to zombies was 2013 :')

There are pretty few skins that I actively dislike, and even ones I probably wouldn't use and that aren't a priority to unlock are still cool to see. I'd hate to see them get rid of the zombie aspect again

Viruses are the only thing that make Survival stand out over other holidays. Without them, it's just more collecting floating frag fodder, and dance/kiss/flower/etc. for currency. Holidays here are already really same-y.

I just don't see how removing a core (and unique) component of a holiday will improve it. I detect a note of pessimism. xD Somehow the artists keep coming up with awesome new virus strains, and even if you don't personally like any of them, others always do! It's an exciting part of the holiday and I see no reason for it to stop yet.

It really became a tradition here, I really love the first week, we choose the names, we predict the theme and how the next stages will look like, we go crazy when there are bugs, it's part of the fun of this holiday. Without the strain all this fun would go away.

While I do think that there should be some new activities during the holiday and others, because it feels a pretty much repetitive when you only kiss..

I should have realized people love it. I want to get rid of this thread, I thought it over and made that post in anger over people complaining about Lobomeat. I mean, I just want to get rid of this topic forever.

I like new strains each year too, even though I kind of think I'll avoid the strain tracking threads due to spam.

Hey, don't feel bad about making the thread. Lobotomeat definitely caused a fair bit of uproar. xD

I have changed the forum post up top. Is there some way to inform people, ? makes an excellent point. I really liked the Mortiside plot idea. It was my first plot an while low-key it still felt fairly rewarding.

I really agree, and have no idea why I posted what I did. I have now changed the topic post to my real, heartfelt suggestion. I really hope I didn't offend anyone by suggesting they stop the strains originally, I was just angry at other people's complaints.

it's okay!! your intentions were good, i don't think anyone is mad or annoyed. you def didn't offend me, anyways. (:

The topic of the thread has changed. May everyone read the new topic and edit their posts? My conscience and love of Survival, Subeta's best holiday, will thank you. (Though I do like the pumpkin patch at mortistide too.) I actually like it how it is after thinking back to next year and all the fun I had on my first Survival I actually got a strain. I still don't like the joke items from that one year, but that's about the only thing I can think of that's ever really bothered me.

There's really no need to inform anyone. c: They can just come back to the thread, see your changes and post if they're still interested in discussing things. If not, that's okay too.

I know I'm always keen for plots (and sadly wasn't around for the last Survival plot, so I'd love one!) but I also know that they take a lot of time and effort on behalf of all Subeta's staff. I'll always support more plots but don't set my hopes on them. x)

Oh, oops! Yeah, me too. But I hope I can drum up some ideas at least.

Can I suggest also to create a store that trades for survival flowers? The pumpkins getting used for other stuff later is a good idea I would like extended to other holidays.

If I had ever realized there was a year with no new strains, I would have said nothing. Still, this thread can help us all make a plan for something different to happen some time.

-I know the op changed their first post, but I have to say NO! Strains need to stay in survival! Honestly, its the only fun aspect I feel of that whole event! What will they look like? Colors? Textures? Shading? Form? Etc.

-As for the new question, I honestly want plots that are planned out well. Oct and Dec plots of this year were sadly not that imo. I’d rather have a plot that took them a while, than one they mashed together simply because users felt “Doesn’t matter how it happens we need a plot NOW!!” I’d also like it if it’s okay to miss days during a plot. Example:Complete this new step in the plot this week(maybe,) not Complete this stage in one day or it wont count! I had suggested one where maybe the circus npc’s have a lemonade/drinks sale and the infections start from the drinks(somehow add biting maybe?) and they investigate into it further.