I feel it's necessary to have achievements for unlocking the secret battle challengers... ...and some for battling them X amount of times would be cool too

Another reason why I feel its necessary to have achievements for unlocking secret challengers is to keep track of which ones are available. For instance, new players or users logging in who may have missed the news post - Are the secret challengers listed on site somewhere already? Did I miss something?

Secret Challengers already have x amount of times rewards in terms of Mage Amulets, Tomes, and Weapon Modification Crystals, just like regular Challengers do.

I'd love to see more battle achievements in general. Specially if staff decide to add any new weapons or scrolls and they don't want them to be loot drops.

The Millionaire Center and the Battle Shop were the last non-loot locations for new weapons. Their general availability seems on-purpose to me.

Another reason why I feel its necessary to have achievements for unlocking secret challengers is to keep track of which ones are available. For instance, new players or users logging in who may have missed the news post - Are the secret challengers listed on site somewhere already? Did I miss something?

I'd love more battle-related achievements! Very pro that, especially since unlocking challengers can be a pain.

I'd really just like an official way to track how many/which challengers we have unlocked. If the challengers we haven't unlocked were shown greyed out in the BC it would both keep people like me from being unsure of whether we've unlocked everything or are missing some challengers and could encourage others to search for ways to unlock them!

tl;dr Show all unlockable challengers in the BC plis

Even though I'm fine with how things are right now (there's a post in the battle forum listing them all), I don't have strong feelings about it. If it's going to be done, this is the option I like. Having them greyed out, but with the option to hide the locked ones. People would still have to search out how to unlock them, but they'd at least be aware that they exist.

Yeah, it would have been so easy to miss the Lukien one - glitched for a long time then you have to take the action for some days in a row to activate.

I like the greyed out option a lot! That would keep it distinct from the cash shop challengers.

Although it's user-run, we do have 1P Loot tracker - Collaboration Project as a checklist for challengers and they're all in order so you can see which ones you're missing and how to unlock them.

My god yes please? Cash shop included in this. Half the time I have no idea if I remembered to grab one or maybe I just haven't battled it yet, and I see the loot and think "where is that from?" and I have to go on a subetalodge manhunt to figure out the challenger/if I missed it what on earth unlocked it. It would be amazing to just, know what I'm missing so I don't go on a mission just to find out I unlocked it already :I

I think something similar has been suggested before about having all of the available challengers listed and distinguishing which ones you've unlocked vs which ones you're missing. I don't really remember what staff's response was though.

In the meantime, I also created this thread that lists all of the existing secret and cash shop challengers along with how to unlock them. It's not a perfect solution either, but another resource with everything in one place.

[Discontinued] Complete List of Unlockable Challengers