Sometimes, you wanna save your progress on a WIP HA. Sometimes, you spend 2 days finding the perfect combination of items for your OC. And sometimes, you simply don't wanna share your stuff with the rest of the class. ;P

Currently, the Saved Outfits page (and the items needed for said outfits) can be viewed by anyone, even while logged out. Blocked users can also access it by simply logging out, or opening your shared outfits in a private window. Users have no option to choose to save an avatar and hide that saved avatar until they decide to share it. If we have a toggle on user profiles letting us choose if we want to display our worn items, I feel that we should have that option for saved avatars too.

So I propose a toggle in the wardrobe's shared avatars page. An open eye for a saved avatar you're currently sharing, a closed eye for a saved avatar that's hidden, but usable by you. It would be shared by default, so if you want to hide your outfits, you'd have to do it manually.

Thoughts?

[edit]Speaking of, the link to it in the top wardrobe navbar should probably get renamed into "saved avatars" or "shared avatars" for clarity's sake. :'D

Something like this could be nice.

And I agree it would probably make the most sense to have them shared by default, but give us an option for each outfit to make it private (only viewable/useable by the creator) or leave it open for anyone.

I like this.

I sometimes work on contest entries and don't want people to see what I'm up to until its done. I'll save a WIP with like, 5 dresses, because I'm not sure which one I want to use, so its usually a confusing mess anyway.

I would really like this as well.

Yes please. I save WIP HAs and HAs to wear later all the time, and very rarely actually use the share feature. I'd much rather be able set my HAs to default to private, and have to toggle them public if I need to share them for a contest or something

As long as I can keep my saved outfit private, I don't really mind.

I feel you there. ._. But I also felt that it'd cause too much of a rise with the people who love the bits out of the current system, so I tried to go with the grain of it.

I'd love to be able to choose if the saved HAs default to private or public, but idk how much work that'd be compared to a toggle for every outfit. Or how disgruntled it would make people because it'd be yet another change to get used to.

Would also love to be able to keep my saved outfits private, but be able to link to them with the outfit=ID sCode. So I want to share with a friend, or post for a forum contest or something, I can do that without having to jump through hoops of making it public, then private again, etc.

I don't know anything about coding, but my logic is that adding a second option (making outfits private) would mean that the outfits had to default one way or the other anyway. It doesn't seem like it would be that much work to make them able to be defaulted to private instead, but at the same time, that's from a logic standpoint, and not from an actual coding standpoint.

I kind of feel like I would prefer it if private HAs couldn't be shared at all (i.e. they can be public and shared, but if you make them private then it breaks the coding like it does for deleted HAs). It doesn't make sense to me to designate private/public HAs and then share the public ones anyway. At that point, it might just be better to have an option to make your shared HAs page inaccessible instead

I very reluctantly support this.

Personally- I really like having shared HAs. Now, it's not like I'm actively going out and stalking people, but being able to have a really clean route to view HA ensembles is incredible nice.

Let me name a few scenarios...

Take for example, item identification. Say, I really want to find out the name of a dress that so-and-so is wearing. Well, if that person doesn't have the list of items on their profile, well, I'm kind of in a pickle. I could post on the item identification thread, of course, or even ask the user, but sometimes I really don't want to feel like a bother. I know plenty of people who would rather light their hair on fire than ask the user outright- so, viewing a shared avatar provides a quick and easy route (if the user has shared it.)

Alternatively, just general ease of use. There have been times where I just adore someone's avatar, and I'm curious what layering they used. They are even publicly sharing their cloths on their profile. But the problem with the profile is that you can't hover over anything, and the order of items is counter-intuitive (the items below the base are listed first.) So viewing a shared outfit is much cleaner, because you can see what items you own, and you can see the previews in a much more orderly fashion. (Instead of opening up 30 tabs with misc items from the profile.)

For me, I really love HA making. But it can certainly be a challenge to get better. So taking inspiration from other user's outfits and sites like Style-File, really shouldn't be a huge problem. I dunno. I just feel like this is a highly social site, and something as public as an HA is easily "crackable" via the smarties over on the identification thread, even without a user publishing their clothing. ¯(ツ)/¯

But to the point where I reluctantly support this... All that being said, I support giving the user a choice in whether or not to have their shared outfits as private. I mean, if I really want to find out an item, I can find out eventually. But there's no real reason why a user shouldn't have that control. Probably, the best implementation would be a toggle for each individual outfit as public or private- with private HAs not able to be shared on the forums or elsewhere. I don't support making it private by default though.

Also, as a general note, this board is totally educating a potentially large number of users who didn't even know that this was possible on the site. :P I feel like the HA share page is a pretty unknown feature to most.

You totally got me there with your last sentence. I wasn't aware my Saved HAs are being .... shared? Where?? I mean there is no link on ones profile afaik, so how would I even access peoples saved HAs?

So, btt, I'm absolutely for private saved HAs. I mean the share-code is right there if you want to share it, but it shouldn't be the deafult?

@ Desolace It is hidden, but it doesn't take a lot of digging. I've seen people in the HA subforum link eachother sometimes. There you go, all of your saved & autoshared avatars. Alternatively, go to this link to just see your own saved & autoshared avatars, not someone else's.

Private Outfit I can click it, copy your entire outfit with a second click of a button, save it (if I have all the items in my wardrobe) and then we'd have completely matching HAs. I would never have to say a word to you, or ask for your permission to do that. That's the way the current system is set up.

In fact, I did just that now and it automatically picked out the stuff from your outfit that I owned in my wardrobe. I go and buy the other stuff? Full copy, effortlessly, no credit, no contact whatsoever between us. And you have no say in this if you've saved your outfit. :/

@ Squidward I see were you're coming from, but I think that's why a double-toggle seems redundant to me, coding-wise? Even if I choose to set all my avatars as private to default, maybe I'll still make something I want to share. So I have to toggle that avatar off in order to share. Or toggle the whole option off, if individual toggles aren't made into a thing. Public by default, toggle to hidden by choice seems less messy, because the whole feature seems to have been implemented with the intent for people to share their fancy fashionable frocks.

I don't know, I'm rambling. I reallyreally wouldn't mind either as long as we have a choice to opt in/out. ._.

@ Chocolate 👍 Thanks for the feedback!

I can definitely understand wanting to know the works of someone's HA, especially if someone's a layering master. x) I've seen heaps of amazing Masq HAs and I had to jump through hoops to give them a like (hi I am one of those people who would rather set their hair on fire than ask someone what they're wearing 👋)

And on the other hand, I've had a few people go off on me because I didn't want to share my layering. So that was a huge turn-off too, and this feature as it is now feels like a big ol' "haha fuckyou and your discomfort, deal with it :D" to me.

I don't owe it to anyone to share my things if I don't feel comfortable doing so. I don't like being forced into it without a choice.

[sub]RE making people aware of it: gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette.[/sub] Jokes aside, I think that this is something users should be aware of. If it's a feature that's going to stay - great! Shine that sucker up, add the toggle, add a link + text line linking to it and explaining, and you're good to go!

I didn't know anyone could get to my saved HAs. I'm not sharing (or even wearing) my saved HAs because I'm using any item onsite, owned or not, to create OCs. Now I'm wondering if someone is going to go through them and see I'm using their CW and have to say something. :|

I may just go though, save, and delete my HAs when I get time...