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Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
Chocolate
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With the literal thousands of achievements, it's getting more and more difficult to keep track of items needed. Many, including myself, have wishlist categories dedicated to a smorgasbord of items that we need to complete achievements. But remembering which items goes to which achievement? Well, that can be a challenge even for the most dedicated user.

I would like to suggest changing the search box slightly, in order to allow it to search for specific items, and return any achievements that require that item. The current functionality can be kept- where any term can be entered, and the database searches achievement titles and descriptions for a match. I only suggest to expand the search for when an item name is entered, to include those extra achievements as well.

Example: If you search "Chocolate", you will receive the "Chocoholic" achievement, due to a matching keyword. But if you search "Chocolate Dipped Bacon", you'll receive the "Bacon All Day" achievement, due to a matching item. (If there happened to be an achievement titled "Chocolate Dipped Bacon", then the search should return both that achievement, as well as "Bacon All Day".)

This suggestion is especially relevant when considering items that have multiple uses. For example: - A food that needs to be put in your plushie collection. ("Mmmm Stuffing") - A wearable that you need to eat. ("Eat your Feelings") - A food that you need to wear. ("All Bundle Up") - A book and a wearable, and you need to do both. ("Fashionable Reader", "Lost in Space", "Ready for Camp") And the list goes on. Minions that need to be eaten. Weapons that need to be worn. Etc, etc, etc.

(I would suggest that searching "Chocolate" returns any achievement that has a chocolate item used, but it has the risk of turning into a big mess. There are simply a huge amount of chocolate items needed, so it might become unwieldy for someone who only wanted to find the "Chocoholic" achievement.)

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Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
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Monokromatic

I like this suggestion - hopefully there is a way to implement it without creating a coding nightmare? I was actually having the same thoughts earlier today. For example: the Pie Minions in the Crystal Shop are also food - but I couldn't remember if that was for achievements or just "gourmet food"

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Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
Laurey
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A better search function for the achievements would be pretty nice if it's something feasible to implement. Even if you have an idea if the achievement is food or clothing related or something, it can still be a lot of pages and individual achievements to go through until you find the one with the item you're looking for.

Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
Solsticesprite
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I think there should be separate search box for required items. Whenever someone Suggests something for Achievements I kinda cringe not because it's a bad idea but because that whole section has always been pretty borked. Rather than risk ruin on the one and only searchbox we have there, add another one instead.

Normally something like this would be solved by users via the wikia or Subetalodge. I guess nobody has done this?

Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
Chocolate
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Quote by Solsticesprite
I think there should be separate search box for required items. Whenever someone Suggests something for Achievements I kinda cringe not because it&;s a bad idea but because that whole section has always been pretty borked. Rather than risk ruin on the one and only searchbox we have there, add another one instead.</p>
<p>Normally something like this would be solved by users via the wikia or Subetalodge. I guess nobody has done this?
Yeah, I had considered there being a separate box, but figured that was more likely to be shot down based on the page being cluttered, or people being confused which search is which. Potentially it could be solved by having a drop down choice like the shop search, where you can choose shops or gallery. But in this case, title or items.

And if anyone has put together a list of items off site, POINT ME TO IT! It's a headache trying to remember, and I don't know of any full listing / database.

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Mar 21, 2018 8 years ago
Tris
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YES PLEASE.

And while we're at it, can we please bring back adding to wishlist from he achievement page? Half the time I don't bother wish listing things because it's so cumbersome to have to open 90000 tabs just to add the damn thing. And then when I do decided to do it, I have no idea what's on my wishlist already, since the blue boxes don't show. This would also be helpful if we have said item already on the WL for a separate reason.

Mar 28, 2018 8 years ago
Lypsyl
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Crotchety

I'd like to see a text based page with a list of all non-retired achievement names, descriptions and items needed. Then you could search that page to see if that pie minion is a specifically named item needed. No check marks, nothing "personal" like green or red based on if you have it or not, just plain text with the achievement linked to the regular achievement page - but even that link isn't totally necessary.

SubetaLodge staff have talked about how to tackle this issue. But its a humongous job that we don't want to start until we've nailed down exactly how we're going to do it and what our users need from it.

SubetaLodge does have some achievement based checklists. If you click on "make a custom checklist" then click "show selected" you'll get options to make some achievement lists, like Shoulda put a ring on it. Its only older achievements and only wardrobe based ones, so far, far from complete.

Mar 29, 2018 8 years ago
Chocolate
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Oh yes, I'm aware of the SubetaLodge checklist features- they're my absolute favorite. I've used them for ages for my collections!

Creating a giant plaintext checklist of every achievement would actually be amazing. I see, at the very minimum, it requiring title, description, required items, prerequisite achievements, reward titles, reward items, numerical show of how many tiers it has, which section it's found in, if it's retired.

What would be ideal, is if someone on staff, who has more control over the backend code, could provide a printout of this information to date. Then, it could be stored on subetalodge, and maintained moving forward.

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May 31, 2018 7 years ago
Skolletta
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I love that you used 'chocolate' as your example. XD

I really like this suggestion! There are some items that are needed for specific achievements that you might use 'incorrectly' if you didn't search for the achievement first, like some sticker achievements that you only get if someone else sticks it to you, and there are a lot of items needed for the 'have these items' achievements that you might forget about/miss. These items occasionally come into the crystal shop/token shop/other limited releases so this would be a useful feature. I do check things via SubetaLodge but having a more official system for achievements would be nice.

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Mar 6, 2019 7 years ago
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Space Kid

Yes pLEASE.

I've actually tried to search by item before (and then was super disappointed) because I remembered an item I needed for an achievement, but not the achievement itself. I really didn't want to hunt through various categories just to find which achievement it corresponded to and how close I was to completing it.

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