Here is the deal. You need to nominate which item needs a buff. You can nominate an unlimited amount of weapons but only 1 per post! When explaining, give as much information as possible. Example: This weapon defends ftom 45 to 63 icons spread. Considering most opponents use about 5 icons in all weapons, some icons will be useless against most opponents. This also does a curse which deals 5 icons of 5 different types (25). Curse seems to activate about 30% of the time. Which ends up being about 8.3 icons per turn.... The plus side to this, this weapon contains 3 mods! When equip with Singed Baguette Crystal, it can increase damage up to 15 icons plus curse.

In total is a weapons which is fully modded: 23.3 attack icons (mostly from modds) 54 defense icons (spread) Most of the damage will come from curse so against curse block opponents it becomes less competitive.

Compare to other tier 8 shields: Sentinel - blocks 18-27 icons and does 16-25 damage plus it greatly boost legendary weapons! Charged Tower Shield - blocks 40 icons (10 of light/dark/physical/fire), does 21-25 damage and heals 5%, 3 MODS Frostbite Amulet - blocks 60 water icons, 30 damage icons, 18% freeze and 2 MODS And weapons seems to have at least 30+ damage plus mods, some with healing

So, by it's tier, it's one of the worst weapon. Even in tier 7, only a handful of weapons are worst than this.

Something along the lines... You don't have to be specific by enlisting other weapons. As long it makes sense, it's ok.

Let's the weapon trashing start :p

Can't think of any off the top of my head, however you didn't factor in cost. I think cost plays a big part of a weapon, especially when you compare the price of item hunters shield against any of the ones you mentioned, if I'm on a budget then the IH shield is deff a great choice for its price.

Nothing special about it compared to other old god weapons, outclassed by cronus easily which is much more common and essentially 750 csc

I appreciate that higher tier weapons cost isn't effective to judge them on. But when talking about t9 or below, personally I think that cost of a weapon weighs heavily on it, but if thats not what your wanna discuss fair enough.

For a t9 weapon, this thing sucks. I'm not a fan of weapons in general that only heal when your life points are blow a certain point to begin with. It's defence is almost non-existent only blocking 9 light, all while only doing 24 icons Compared to other r9 weapons, this is a joke, even though it scales, the higher tier scaling is still so useless that I'd love to see this buffed.

fine, I will allow value on items >.> since i feel i keep getting ignore....

well something that's common and cheap shouldn't be the same as something that's a lot rarer and more expensive. it kinda defeats the purpose of being rarer and harder to get. if tier is the only thing to consider, then we might as well make all items in the same tier the same

Then, Item Defenders Shield should have better stats because it's lv95 item hunter and it's cost it's only that low because it's trash. Rare doesn't mean powerful. Still, there are weapons that are even worst than weapons 2 tier+ below them. We do have a tier system to balance weapons. However, some weapons escape the admins eyes or just care because they dont cause any damage to the tier.

What does mean powerful then? Most of the best weapons are limited release plot prizes and that's because that's the easiest way to control how many go out, so that they're rarer and retain value. Otherwise it becomes everything gets normalized to its tier and things are arbitrarily assigned better stats than others. It would never make sense to get something rarer because something cheaper could have similar stats.

Not all plot prizes are good weapons. Tempestuous Bladed Gauntlet <- only about 25 on site, plot event... not a good weapon compare to other tier 10. Thunderball <- Rare weapon from donating rare books... really bad weapon and book turned in were value way more. Glacial Ring <- Release on 2012 plot.... even it got rerelease because it doesn't affect the battling at all, which made it common Panzer Hydra Gauntlet <- it was buyable 1 minute ago before I end up buying last 3 on sell, not a bad weapon but worst than MW. Which is easier to obtain, once a year. Trusty Blades <- Everyone expected the next scalable Trident out of this....

Now the good plot prizes are: Tainted Keeper Skull Staff Ancestral Unrest Sandreaver

Not all plot prizes are powerful... The best plot prize so far is Sandreaver. Which honestly, it's the best ice blocker specially with the godlies being nerf and so few decent ice blockers. Actually, they seem to rerelease crappy plot prizes. However, there seems to be many worst plot prizes than good ones :/

Not all of those were limited though, and I'd argue the tempestuous gauntlet is actually very useful as a weapon. Not all rare weapons are good, but it makes sense that rarer weapons are better in general. I just don't think it makes sense for a weapon that has thousands in circulation and is like 100k to be comparable to something that has 100 on the site and is worth 500m

Make the 's blessing antifreeze or antisteal please (I still believe it was supposed to be like that because there's literally no point in blocking 10 light + healing 75 hp considering the blessing only activates on t10 onwards)

(Also, the Tempestuous Bladed Gauntlet is quite fine imo)

I too would argue that the tempestuous gauntlet is really useful. There is no other T10 water blocker that heals for 9%, has a curse, deals 34-42 icons and has 3 mod slots. Until someone is high enough T12 to win MW, it is a very good alternative and really the only good water option for T10 pets.

I would like it if got an upgrade. 4% or 8% heal is not reliable enough at higher tiers. This weapon, like all scalable weapons, should have max stats reflective of their perspective max tier. Since comet flash essentially scales to 2,500+ defense stats, then it needs to be an effective weapon for a pet that has more than 2,500 defense stats. Something like this would be nice to see on it:

Attack: 15-20 physical 20-27 light Defense: 40 dark block Heal: 8% Mod slots: 3 Curse or blessing would be nice

The high end panzer weapon was awful. It's like a decent weapon if it didn't need to jump through hoops to use it. I could have easily been given its activated stats with no drawback and it would have been fine.

I would argue that every weapon tier 9 and up needs an upgrade. There isn't much of a difference going from tier to tier until you hit god weapons.

Every bomb in every tier should be upgraded

however, as a tier 9 weapon it's a pretty solid choice... yes it does get outclass at higher tier.

Still unsure what triggers the bonus.... I believe stats are: Without bonus: 7-14, 10 , 10, 8 = 35-42 damage icons (3 MODS) - This is average of a tier 10 weapon 35 water defense icon - Low defense 8% cap at 799

Bonus: 11-14, 11, 11, 10-11 = 43-47 This is a much nicer increase in damage. 35-45 Water, 15 Fire <- even as the bonus active 50-60 overall icon is low 11% cap at 1099 <- Much better healing, that one percent over demigods/god that max at 8-10%

Without the bonus active, it just a mediocre filler until you get a demigod. Once active, it can serve decent as a replacement until you get a MW, Natasha, or Pbow. It somehow remains me of the Cursed Liquid Fire Torch which was much easier to get.

The bonus attack and defense, as you would call it, are triggered by using the gauntlet with a stat boosting weapon. I think specifically a weapon that boosts strength, so weapons like cronus and the malice would trigger it. Pretty wear, not a practical weapon though. I can't think of that many weapons that boost strength with each use, probably one of the scaling ones does, but to use its better attack and defense with Cronus you have to wait until T12. Then you are either borrowing Cronus or waiting until mid T12 when you could win your own Cronus. By that time you could win your own MW, which outclasses the gauntlet. You could even buy MW before then and it is the much better option at T11 anyway.

I have just been overall unimpressed with the plot prize scaling weapons that have been released - malhuili, panzer gauntlet, sticky hand thing, panzer blade, etc. You spend a lot of money for mediocre.

Weird! I got the bonus with minotaur, turkey, voltex, quill, temple and death shard, and reviver... my tier 7 set for my pet Match and Ab. I was able to trigger the effect and none of those weapons boost strength

The panzer blade itself boosts strength, so if you use it long enough in a battle you will eventually trigger the upgraded version. Thing is, the battle must last enough turns for enough strength boost to be accumulated if you rely on the panzer blade's boost alone.

Interesting... so you could start with the robot potion (new battle shop item) and have the upgrade version + damage + 250 str I can actually see it usable now thx to that :o

this was back from testing not too long ago. Maybe you are confusing it with another weapon?

Posted on: 08/30/17 at 8:11pm [Quote=Maskros]

@ Laurey I'm glad we're here before it's too late to pick up any good weapons at any decent prices 😄

@ kbbob I like this format too. Pity it doesn't last long, but at least it was good when it lasted. Perhaps many cores are going out this year so we'll have to go back to the traditional boss battles again 😭

@ SAILOR Quote:

A second attack is activated once you reach a cumulative strength boost of 400 during battle. Attack: 10-14 11 11 10-11 Defense: 35-45 15 Heal: 11%

Original post by Jess here

That's the second attack. I'm not sure about the base attack and mod slots as I don't have the weapon [/quote]