This may be a strange/unpopular request with certain folks, but I was just thinking... we have a ton of horror movie/pop culture themed items, but we don't really have much of anything in the way of true crime related items. Granted, there are fictional crime items like the "Crime Anthology" and "Tape and Glass and a Crime Unsolved" book now, which is awesome. But nothing with a more realistic angle, I guess.

Maybe that's some sort of executive decision made by the artists/mods or something, in which case I totally understand... but I thought I'd suggest it, since it'd kinda fit in with the whole spooky Morostide related stuff that's sure to come. Nothing exceptionally gruesome or tasteless, mind you... but maybe some rag dolls in the likeness of famous serial killers, some books about true crime, some Jack the Ripper/Zodiac related wearables, etc.

Am I a weirdo for requesting that, or has anyone else thought the same?

ehhhh for as much as i find true crime and serial killers very interesting, i don't really like this suggestion ; v ;

serial killers are real people who killed real people and i just don't think portraying them in any sort of positive way is appropriate real people dying isn't innocent halloween fun, it's horrifying

I suppose I don't see the suggestion as being a way to shine a positive light on anything, but I assumed I'd manage to draw some dissenting opinions in recommending it. Real people are killed with knives and guns, and knives and guns still find their way onto the site. Neither are portrayed as positive things. They're just presented as things. Hell, there's even an item in the Subeautique shop right now called "Romero Post Mortem Warhead" and I don't really think anyone's going to argue that nukes are something funny to laugh about.

For clarification purposes, I do understand and respect your opinion. I just don't agree with it, nor do I think it aligns with other items already present on the site. I guess along with the logic flaw I perceive there, I'd also like to reiterate your "serial killers are real people" statement. They are, and I'd just like to see some representation is all. Whether for detective pets, cosplay purposes, educational purposes, etc. Nothing grotesque. Nothing inherently positive. Just representation.

Thanks for your comment though! Whether I agree or disagree, I'm always open to hearing both sides.

No thanks.

I can respect why you're into it, but it's really not my cuppa tea. ._.

I'd rather have more Subeta-related murder mysteries (where nobody actually got murdered, cannibalized, dismembered, raped, etc. IRL) instead of essentially tribute items to people like Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and so on.

'Sides, I can't really see this getting a green light because of what it's giving tribute and drawing attention to without it getting molded into a more Subeta-appropriate thing. Judging by the first post, that's not what you're interested in.

If you're into mass murderers, there's plenty of websites and resources you can look into. This could just be me, but a children's site (surprise! Subeta is PG13) with pixel pets and doll dressup feels like it definitely shouldn't be one of them.

I think it's a grand idea. I'd need to buy it all.

How about no? I watch true crime stuff as much as the next person, but that seems real inappropriate for a pet site to do. This is entirely different from tribute items to actual celebrities. This is creating items that essentially honor the heinous acts of actual murderers. Whether or not the site portrays their actions as negative or no, that's still giving them more attention than they deserve.

A lot of the userbase is very young, but there are probably victims or people related to the victims of these actual crimes on this website. There's a huge difference between having depictions of guns and knives on this site and 'Look, this is the gun that killed your brother. Every edgy twelve year old is wearing it on their avatar now.'.

Also, the idea that a detective pet needs items related to actual murders is silly. Subeta isn't the real world. You already have blood splatter items and the likes, use those.

considering your un is Bundy, you have TWO Ted Bundy fanpets AND a fanpet dedicated to his girlfriend, I reeeeeeeeeeeeally doubt this suggestion has anything to do with 'detective fanpets'.

As much as I find true crime interesting it doesn't seem appropriate to have items referencing that here. What those people did was horrific and while I do find it fascinating to read about, subeta is a place to unwind and forget the real world for many people, they may not want to be reminded of something like that. It also doesn't seem respectful to the victims of those crimes in my eyes either, it can be seen as making light of what happened. There may be people here who have ties to what happened via family or living in the areas it happened, I know if I did I certainly wouldn't want to be reminded of that on a pet site.

I'd be down for more subeta murder mysteries and fictional stuff though.

This is just really disrespectful to the people who were impacted by those people. True crime is fascinating sure, but we don't need items memorializing those horrible people on a virtual pet site meant for fun and escaping the real world... it just honestly would be incredibly creepy...

I do enjoy reading and watching specials about this stuff, but Subeta is hardly the place for this sort of thing. We don't need to glamorize murderers.

More criminology items in general would be rad tho!

I think true crime items would be an awkward fit for the same reasons they seem to limit other real world items. They're jarring when it comes to lore and don't really fit in with a fantasy world. They wouldn't be 'true' crime in Subeta, so you would create an unpleasant case where you're treating real world horrors as a fictional tale in this make believe universe.

Related items might be better- like a book called Psychology of Serial Killers or one on crime scene forensics. Things that are neither real world cases nor slightly fictionalized Subeta equivalents.

The more I think of it, the more nope this is for me, tbh. A lot of true crime related stuff focuses around people who sexually abuse and murder women and young girls. Ted Bundy, for example, murdered girls and women around the ages of 15-25. Why should we have items dedicated to people like Ted Bundy, Karla Homolka and Pedro López, who killed young girls (the latter two who also sexually abused their young child victims horribly before killing them) on a kid's site? Or Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer? Or Robert Pikton, the guy who killed and butchered women and fed them to his pigs?

there are plenty of ways to do crime related items that are general - murder mystery novels, police tape, crime scene materials, evidence, etc - and/or fictional - remember the masquerade murder mystery a few years back? (jeez what was that, five? six years ago?) anything having to do with real world crimes or criminals should be avoided entirely imo.

Knives and guns ARE just things. They are tools, and there's nothing inherently bad about them. Even the ones that skew towards the darker side like the or are based on a generic concept/history of murder and death. I think that's an important distinction.

Death and murder (even violent murder) are concepts that people find fascinating and that's fine. Once you start bringing in real life killers and their associated paraphernalia into things, you cross a very strange and uncomfortable line. I mean, you say you want representation but you're being a little vague. Are you specifically asking for items associated with their crimes and lives? Gonna be weird when the wizard keeps asking you to bring him John Wayne Gacy Painted Portrait or Ted Bundy Incriminating Bite Marks.

Like, generic forensic items would be cool, sure, but anything named or related to real killers or victims isn't going to happen. The rag doll idea is actually de-humanizing, since it puts them on the same level as Freddy Krueger or something. A fantasy killer fit for entertainment, a cute little doll representation.

I'm on the no side for depicting real life killers. This site really isn't suited for things like this. General generic crime stuff, sure.

I think there is enough things on site that one can make a good HA or fill a TC with items of a criminal. I'd like to see more books like mentioned, that would be nice. Aside from that, Subeta doesn't need real life memorabilia of killers. It's Subeta tribute items to those well loved celebrities (or staff) should be RL enough. Otherwise, maybe commission the CW market? For what you are thinking.

If describing their crimes is too mature for this site, then items dedicated to their crimes should also be too mature for this site, imho.

I'm all for more like, generalized CSI items but I cannot even begin to touch on how much I disagree with items for IRL criminals. (other people have pretty much covered why that is a Bad Idea)

Where would we even draw the line with IRL criminals? Serial killers, mass murderers, school shooters, war criminals, etc?

Honestly this suggestion makes me think of the people who make blogs dedicated to and/or professing their love and support of famous Nazis, serial killers, school shooters... Consider Ted Bundy's and Jahar Tsarnaev's (the Boston bomber) intense followings of women. Not even going to go there with the people who look up to these kinds of notorious criminals.

No thanks.