EDIT: I had a bad day and ranted on here and looked like a jerk, lol. Nothing useful here.

Absolutely no support. sP is easy to earn, and there's no reason to keep items at high prices that nobody is willing to pay in the first place. If the items are "too cheap", buy them up and resell them.

There's no need to control how people want to play a game.

No. No support.

What about items that aren't worth the 50 mil they cost in user shops, they're only priced that high because someone bought them out / they're new / inflated for other reasons but not actually selling. it'd be hard to implement something with code to prevent deflation that distinguishes from harmful deflation and healthy deflation.

I think the real problem isn't people pricing items, but the demand for items and the amount of items on site. A lot of items are made so they aren't too difficult for any single person to get. If everyone has an easy time getting the items, there's no reason to have user to user purchases since everyone can just get the item from the source of the item (token shop/quest shop/main shops/etc)

No support. Quests make it excessively easy to get sP, making it honestly not much of a problem, while there's tons and tons of sP sinks that exist on the site. Undercutters are inevitable no matter what game you're playing; it's a universal feature to pet sites, MMOs, just about anything, because people want to get their stuff sold fast.

SbQ isn't hard to get because of the invite system that limits its audience for each restock. If you want something in particular, sit and be patient, you'll find something cool eventually. And some items are going to be inevitably more popular than others, too.

Token Shop items are also easy to get: they're practically free if you do your Wizard Quests, you just have to be there at the right time. Supply and demand pushes prices here, there, everywhere, and once people start putting up their stuff for sale, after either just getting it or realizing that it doesn't work for them, prices will start dropping. If it's not a consumable (booster / potion / currency / etc), then it'll keep circulating through the market, and prices will inevitably drop.

... Or go up, if there's limited supply and high demand, but that's rarely the case with non-consumable token shop items, I've found. Even the really nice Token Shop wearables tend to cap at, like, 10mil or 25mil if it's a super popular item, and that's generally because it was super-limited and happened to be really popular.

And, let's be fair: at this point, restocking just.. isn't worth it outside specific high-demand items like potions, boosters, and stuff that's in the 90+ rarity spectrum. It was a decent money-maker back in the day, maybe 6-7 years ago, but nowadays, items are extremely easy to get because of the ease of making the currency to buy items with. There's vending, too, which makes lower-rarity stuff way easier to get in bulk.

You're much better off making profit in other ways.

... This is how economy works. It's how a free market works.

If an item isn't in demand and the supply is excessive, the price will gradually drop. Especially if the item is available year-round from main shops. Or in the case of items available both in main shops and from vending machines. If an item is in high demand, but low supply, the price will stay relatively high, or even go up over time. Examples: credit gift cards, wizard tokens, special-posed potions (reborn, nightmare, etc.), stat boosters...

About the Party Pants going down in price... The item isn't readily available year-round. When it was made available via several token shop restocks, people flocked to buy it and tried to re-sell it for a profit. The item isn't very popular, so the price dropped. If it was available year-round, they'd probably be sinking in price even more.

SBQ items fall into a similar category. If it looks good, it's going to be high in demand. And since SBQ restocks randomly, a very beautiful wig is going to be in higher demand than a strangely coloured vest, especially if item rarity is taken into account.

tl;dr - I... don't see the point? Subetateam does buy out ridiculously underpriced items every now and then, but this seems like you're overreacting to a normal thing that happens in Subeta's economy. :c

I've checked out the Party Pants and counted how many are selling for under 10 million - there's around 30 of them. This suggests that it's not a popular item so it's difficult to sell even at the current lowest price.

SBQ items drop in price the longer they've been on the site. People who want to keep them in their wardrobe already have them so if they get these items from a quest they'll sell them. Other people might be bored with the items and remove them from their wardrobes to resell.

Some items are a lot cheaper than usual at the moment because we recently had a Free Shop giveaway.

I've been here for over 12 years and user shop prices have always gone up and down like yo-yos. Many rares which are now cheaper than they used to be will be more expensive again when Saggi is the special weekend quest.

No support, the draw of subeta for me is being able to play how I want to play. If I want to sell something quickly by dropping the price by 10%, I can. Having to make a trade or a board every time I want to sell something would quickly ruin the fun, sometimes I just want to be able to play without having to interact with anyone. Do my quests, price in shops and let them sell while I do other things. Some items naturally deflate in price, new items for example.

The economy is already dead, has been for years, but the problem you are saying, undercutting, isn't even 1% of the problems we have

We have legitimate economical problems, and it is foolish to say otherwise. Your solution solves nothing.

No. I sometimes buy items from the quest shop to sell for cheap when I need the money for something. Something from the QS isn't worth 54m sp.

You don't like people undercutting? Tough. It's something you're going to have to grow up and deal with. (also, this would REALLY fuck up the market whenever new items are added to the system)

ETA: I mean think about it, really. Let's say there are new items added. Someone snaps up the first item on the site. It's r45, but they price it for something ridiculous like 999,999,999 sp. It would take forever for that item to drop down to the level it should be at. This item is common enough to pop up on most quests, and it would literally cost you money because you- just like everyone else- would not be able to afford it. You wouldn't be able to RS it because other people would get it whenever it restocked to try and cash in on the high price. It might also cost people their Item Hunter Quests to boot, and cut into the $$$ you earn from doing them. This would just destroy the subeta economy.

I think that every once in a while, someone gets upset about their item being undercut, and makes this same suggestion. I don't agree with controlling the free market of user shops in any way. You say the Party Pants is a great example, but it's really not. They were worth (I believe) 150 wizard tokens in the token shop, and the only reason they would be 10 mil on the search to begin with, is because it had been a while since they restocked in the Token Shop. After putting them in the token shop for the sole purpose of getting more out there and available, you cannot seriously think that the price is going to stay close to 10 mil right?

This is all part of the game. I don't think Subeta should control how much someone wants to sell something for.

I agree with Soph. Subeta's economy stems from other sources (like too much sP/items in circulation), not users undercutting.

This is a really crazy suggestion. No support.

The overall prices change over time though supply and demand. It's basic economics.

When there's a token shop restock, hundreds of the same item enter the supply, and the price will plummet until a new price is discovered that buyers will pay for.

Reselling has its risks. If you can manage the risk then you'll make a tidy profit overall.

No thanks, this really isn't a great idea.

Pinging everyone to apologize. I was having a bad day, and I took it out on Subeta. You guys all are correct with your counter-arguments. I'm sorry, it was pretty disrespectful of me to basically rant on the suggestion forums just because I lost profit on some good items and was having a bad day. It isn't fair to any of the users, and was childish. I don't do very well with keeping my mouth shut when I get upset sometimes :x Literally was going to take this thread down after I posted it but I wasn't on until now. Gonna have this thread locked, or deleted. Ugh, I look like a jerk now :1 sorry again everyone.