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Sep 15, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
Kisrah
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Brainfreeze

There are some rather random items (such as toys, plushies, and weapons) which have the option to change a pet's colour and species. With plenty of elixirs that do the same thing, it seems strange to have the odd item here and there which can have the same affect on pets.

It's inconsistent, and potentially confusing for newbies who are not familiar with the items yet. I suggest removing the "use on" option from these items so they no longer act as elixirs.

Edit: If possible, it might also help to update the wording on Elixirs and other species/colour altering items to read "Change pet" rather than "Use on pet. This would be especially helpful on toy and plushie "elixirs", if their pet altering options are not removed.

I've often seen posts where newbies have used these items on their pets out of curiosity, not realising what would happen. If the link on the item read "Change" rather than "Use on", it'd be more obvious that the item is likely to cause a drastic alteration. Then new users might stop to check what the item does before using it.

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Also the Cadogre Mystical Toys. These are currently the only "elixir" type item available for Cadogres, excluding the X5 Cadogre Elixir.

Two items for changing a pet into a Common Cadogre!

For consistency and to make things less confusing for new users wanting a Cadogre, I suggest removing the elixir option from the Cadogre Mystical Toys. Revamp and rename the X5 Cadogre Elixir in keeping with other common species elixirs, and release a full set of elixirs to match those available for other species.

Some of the Cadogre Mystical Toys describe them as plushies. Since we already have Cadogre plushies, and the Mystical Toys cannot be added to collections, updating these descriptions might be a good idea too? They seem more like a plastic robot toy.

Edit: Just want to address some concerns about something I didn't consider when I first made this suggestion. Will these changes affect elixir values? Possibly, but I don't think it'll make a huge difference.

Removing the species changing use from the plushies, Mystical Feli Doll, and the wands will remove a few options for those species/colour combos, which may impact the value of the equivalent elixirs. However, this is a very small number of items. If their removal does cause inflation, I doubt it would take long for prices to fall again. The value of the plushies, toy, and wands would likely drop once they are no longer species changers.

As for the Cadogre changers, I would expect the value of the toys to drop if they can no longer be used to change a pet. A renamed and revamped X5 would most likely retain its value, as it would still have the same use. Any other Cadogre elixirs would be brand new items (unless the toys were revamped into elixirs), and would naturally start out more expensive.

Thanks to and for finding more random "elixirs", and for pointing out potential impact on item values. ^-^


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Sep 15, 2016 9 years ago
Kevin
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Wuf

sounds like an item that was made that way because neopets had "magical plushies" I'd support removing that option.

[edit] I only support it for the twilight plushie actually, indifferent on the mystery, and kinda against it on the cadogre stuff and toys

Sep 15, 2016 9 years ago
Jessica
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Um yeah it definitely needs to be removed...

Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
Solsticesprite
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I support this. If there are any other plushies like this they should be depowered also.

Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
Possum
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Curse

Other toys with this option include the Mystery Sheeta Plushie and the Mystical Cadogre Toys.

I want to say there's one for a Feli as well...

Ah. Yes. The Mystical Feli Doll.

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Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
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Brainfreeze

I'll add the Sheeta and Feli ones to my first post. Thanks! ^-^

As for the Cadogre, the only have one actual elixir item. The toys are the Cadogre equivalent of colour elixirs for other pets. It'd be nice if the toys were just for playing with, and a full range of Cadogre elixirs were released.


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Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
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Dexter

I would only be ok with the toys being changed IF they completed an elixir set. I am all for having more elixirs.

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Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
Frost
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This one changes your pet into a common ontra.

I'm fine with the cadogre toys, mostly because they've always worked that way. Wouldn't have anything against proper cadogre elixirs to make things more unified and consistent as far as species changers go, but I'm not bothered either way. Cadogres aren't my jam. ;P

Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
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Brainfreeze

Added the Magic Ontra Wand. Thanks! ^-^


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Sep 16, 2016 9 years ago
jensen
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RM

i had some crazy deja-vu while reading this thread; i spent a solid five minutes looking for my post only to realize i'd posted on this thread lmao

i still feel pretty much the same way, i guess? any item that isn't explicitly an elixir ought to have a disclaimer and/or only use options, no play or feed options or anything like that, from the mystical toys on down to any of the bottles that turn your pet into a 7463... especially when some of the bottles for the 7463 have warnings and some don't, and we already have jokey items like magic toast to confuse the relative seriousness of item descriptions.

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Sep 20, 2016 9 years ago
Possum
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Curse

, I found another one! Useable: Turns the pet playing with it into a Chibi Clawsion.

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Sep 20, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
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Brainfreeze

Added, thanks! ^-^


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Oct 17, 2016 9 years ago
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Explorer

Adding support to this idea despite it being a month old because it's really needed. That damn Ontra wand has almost got me a couple of time, because quests insist on giving them to me and I get curious each time, look them up to find out the effect, then forget again for next time.

Though I'm wondering how people like me with the toys or wands in the vault would be handled? I know they aren't expensive, but because I know I want a Cadogre eventually I don't see the point in getting rid of my Cadogre Mystical Toy, especially with the elixirs being over double the price of the toy. Would it be swapped for the elixir? Is that even possible? Or maybe by filing a ticket you could get an elixir? It just might be confusing/hard to implement is all.

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Nov 17, 2016 9 years ago
Duane
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Alex the Great Dragon

um no way should you remove these items for changing pets it seems to me you just want to make items more expensive for the new users who can look it up and see what each item does it doesn't sound like to me you are worried about the new users but your own personal gain in sp.

Nov 20, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
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Brainfreeze

Resolved. ^-^ Going to address the economic concerns in my first post.


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Nov 20, 2016 9 years ago
Deadeye
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Brainfreeze

No longer needed. Edited.


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Nov 20, 2016 9 years ago
Andrea
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I totally support having the plushie's changed to where they can't change your pets-- plushies should be just plushies, period.

The toys, Idk... I'm on the fence-- those should definitely be changed to "Change PETNAME" instead of "Use on PETNAME" and also given the ability to "Play With PETNAME" if that's not already the case (I don't have any of these items, so I can't check). If the toy items had the change option & play option then I feel like that should be enough of a red-flag.

The Cadogre Mystical Toys on the other hand, well it looks like those all have a warning in the item description so I'm definitely okay with those still changing pets -HOWEVER- those should definitely say "Change PETNAME" and considering they stock in the Toy shop... they should probably also be toys? Idk. Or moved to the Magic Box whatever shop that is now hahaha (pft boosters w/e it's not like they ever stock whats another 20 items right... r__r)

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Nov 20, 2016 9 years ago
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Vivisect

i agree with everything except maybe the cadogre toys. for those, i'm pretty indifferent as to whether toys or elixirs are used to change a pet into a cadogre, but it seems more practical to leave them as-is because, aside from the X5 elixir, they're the only way to transform a pet into a cadogre. also it kind of adds to the fact that, like endeavors, they are not 'normal' pets but robots that can only be acquired in special ways.

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