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You could lighten the load on the trades if you simply allowed users to set up a shop where they could charge CSC instead of sP. I have no idea if this is doable -- what coding changes it would require -- but it seems like an easy way for users to ask for CSC for items rather than having to set up a trade for each individual item. I know lots of people lump multiple items together, but as a shopper, I usually bypass those. I don't want the hassle of having to contact the seller and ask about prices.
I'd be ok with adding an auto-accept feature to trades, where people can choose to either buy your item for a set price, or make a lower offer. And maybe put a limit on it, so you can only have ~5 active trades like this at any time.
I don't really like the idea of bringing CSC into regular shops, because that functionality (being able to set a price and just leave the item until it sells) keeps sP unique. Otherwise why not just price everything in CSC and let CSC take over as the main site currency?
I feel like if you could set a csc price, many items would be removed from the sP market and prices would rise, also increasing the demand for csc and prices of csc would rise. I'd only support this if you could accept and sP price and a csc price, requiring an sP price.
- But then people could game the system by pricing stuff for 5000000000000 sP and 250 CSC, effectively pricing it only in CSC. (Unless they enforce a conversion rate, which they'll never do.)
true, but that would be a really tedious thing to do especially if people autoprice.
maybe the better idea here is to limit that type of shop to CWs only. no reason to have quest items costing csc.
I would do it for cash shop items only. open market for csc prices can make things very messy imo
I'd only like to see this for CWs, since those are something that typically stick to the realm of CSC (sometimes they get sold for sP but usually it's for a conversion of CSC to sP prices).
That said I'd really really like to see that for CWs, if it was possible. Typically they get lost in trades after the first few pages and taking them out/putting them back in is a pain in the butt, and depending on the sellers activity and/or if trades are in bulk (like, 600 csc each comment to separate) then potential sells possibly get skipped. Not to mention the ever constant mention of users wanting to see trade filters (like everything, no CWs, only CWs, etc).
I'd really love to just take the CWs I don't want anymore and put them in a shop and let them just be there until I change my mind or they sell.
I would like it only if it were for reselling a custom wearable or a cash shop item.
Sure, why not. Converting SP to CSC is a pain
It's too late to do anything about CSC inflation anyway.
I agree with it would be better if there was an autobuy for trades than a csc user shop.
quitting - non-cw version. sp and csc accepted. - it&;s finally happening: the ufa-ening.
Yeah, we actually coded this out a few months ago after the new shops were released and just aren't happy with what it would do to the economy.
Unlikely to happen.
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CSC would just change hands between players. It wouldn't become more available, and I seriously doubt the prices would go down at all. In fact, I would argue that this change would make CSC more influential, and sP would suffer even more. (Why buy and sell at sP prices at all when you can use CSC?)
Plus:
Do you think making CSC more useful would discourage that hoarding behavior?
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Was her post just deleted? o.o
I'm busy today and I'll have to come back to this later and reply, but in the meantime here's my post;
I&;m sorry but it could not literally be any worse than it is now. I have CWs sitting that I don&;t want to simply sell to the pawn shop that other users will more than likely want and I can get a better deal selling to someone else.
Also there are several CS items that are UB now that would benefit more being sold via CSC than for sP because sP is becoming more and more worthless with people hoarding CSC and not wanting to buy (and some not wanting to sell) at these prices.
More CSC needs to get into the economy, that&;s the long and the short of it, especially since (and I don&;t expect you to) staff doesn&;t just hand out free 1k CSC willynilly. Having a CSC option will go a long way to helping CSC get into the economy and drive down the prices and make it easier to spend sP on CSC and / or CSC items as the conversion rates will be lowered.</p>
<p>You may not like what it may do to the economy, but your users will, I&;m sure, and isn&;t that more important?
quitting - non-cw version. sp and csc accepted. - it&;s finally happening: the ufa-ening.
- Just the part I quoted, but I don't know why it would have been deleted. It's not like you cussed Keith out or anything offensive. D:
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Just saw your edit. That makes more sense. :P
It's not that simple. So you've got some items that you'd like to sell for CSC, but I'm not convinced that user shops are the best avenue for that. We can make changes to the trading system to enable faster CSC trades.
If we enabled selling items for CSC in the user shops, users would just sell things for CSC. Any item that has any significant value would just be sold for CSC instead of sP, taking Subeta entirely out of a free site, and make it 100% pay to play.
I'm not really sure I understand your last point, if we let users price things for CSC there is no additional CSC in the system, it just gets passed around from users (much like sP now). And if that user spends it on something in the cash shop (or a CW shop where subeta gets a cut) then it's removed from the system. Allowing users to charge CSC in their user shops doesn't do anything to increase the amount of CSC in the system.
So, unfortunately I have to disagree with you. Some users would like it, but for the most part it'd ensure that a huge chunk of items are only ever sold for CSC removing a lot of users ability to get those items from the system, even more so than they are now.
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We can already buy items with CSC via trades. What might happen if we make shops with CSC is that items start to only be asked for in CSC, which would actually drive up prices of CSC, not lower them. This would really make CSC necessary for even non cash shop items if all items were allowed in the CSC shops, and requiring CSC would just make this site pay to play. Limiting it to CWs I would support, anything more and I think trades are sufficient.
I just would like to see it in trades not shops.