as of now, in battle, the arrangement is as follow:

1. pet and opponent.
2. battle message.
3. weapons.
4. potions.
5. scrolls.
6. submit turn.

my suggestion:

1. pet and opponent.
2. weapons.
3. potions.
4. scrolls.
5. submit turn.
6. battle message.
7. forfeit battle.

reason: to have less or no scrolling to submit turn.

edit: add forfeit battle . much needed too. forfeit battle is not exactly easy to find.

and please add 7. forfeit battle

especially for the troll :D

Yes please.

I'd also like to add rearranging the "battle again" page. As it is now, the battle button is in the worst spot at the bottom. Trying to scroll down, 99% of the time my cursor lines up with the weapons box, which makes it scroll that instead of the page.

This is too far, since I know I mostly go right back into the battle with the same weapons I was already using. If possible, it would be nice to have the "start battle" button moved above the weapons/scrolls so it sits right below the challenger and pet.

I don't mind the battle message, I think having the damage you have done show up right over your weapons is pretty great. Maybe have an option to minimize the text wall and just show the bottom numbers of damage and healing on standard?

Adding a forfeit button to the battle would be very helpful. Complete support for that.

try out .ui.button.primary.large.fluid[value='Start Battle']{ position: absolute; top: 0; right: 0; }

that should at least temporarily fix the scrolling problem

I agree, I'd love to see the battle page displayed a bit more efficiently. With a forfeit button included.

Thanks for the CSS, !

Support for a forfeit button on the battle page. The rest doesn't bother me.

This has been suggested before, and I still don't support it. You're supposed to read the battle messages before you make your turn, so you know what happened on the last turn. Switching the order around means that amateur battlers have to scroll down to read the messages, and then back up to make their turn. That doesn't really make sense, and it just makes their lives more difficult.

Stuff like this isn't supposed to be designed around power users.

Support for adding a quick 'Forfeit Battle' button to the page because GOOD LORD.

As for the rest of the layout - my resolution is massive, so it doesn't effect me much, but pushing the battle messages to the very bottom of the page would render them essentially pointless. I like being able to see the results immediately after executing my turn, even if it's a bit monotonous. I really don't think it's necessary at all.

If anything, I think the battle message portion of the page just needs a bit of touching up (minor aesthetic things to increase the ease of reading it, etc).

Forfeit, set well away from the Make Your Turn and See Results, would be a nice addition.

I don't really see the point of reorganising the layout (other than adding a forfeit button, which I think is a good idea as long as it's positioned well away from the "make your turn" button).... I want to see the battle text (how else do I know what weapons were a good choice against a particular opponent?), and I have to scroll anyway (I have to scroll even on the first move, where there are no battle messages), so what difference does a few more lines make?

If anything, I think the battle again page should be made easier - 99% of the time, I want to just battle again with the same weapons I just used (not necessarily my defaults, depending on which pet I'm battling with), so a button giving that option would make battling a lot easier (and faster!) :D

I like the current layout order.

Nice one! I agree on the forfeit button. And I'd like to add one suggestion of my own. At the end of the battle, I think it would be nice to have a third button on the results page. A button that lets you battle the same opponent again with same weapon & scroll set and same battle pet selected. It would be much quicker, would come in very handy at different times. I'd like to know your opinion. Thanks guys.

[Edit] I forgot to say, I aboslutley agree with ColdDragons suggestion!

Forfeit button would be nice

I'd also really like a second start battle button near the top of the page because I have 34 pets right now and I generally battle with two of them; all the untrained ones take up an awful lot of unnecessary space. (But I'd settle for a way to make them not show up on that page too)

you can not feed the ones you don't battle with and they won't show up :p

That's so mean :(

Besides, Sans the Comic is already skin and bones /ba dum tsh

It's effective though! :p And I don't think they'll have toggles ever of which pet you want to show up, it sounds complicated. It could be nice though :)

I still think making battle more compact might be nice. Or at least having an option of it, for users with smaller screens or trying to battle on mobile (bless your damn crazy hearts).

The pet/opponent image size adjustment (and improvement in that now they adjust to window size as well) helped a LOT, but there's still room to improve there.

I semi-recently refound this in the bowels of my computer. It's an old mockup I made from 2010 when I was a new(er) battler. It's probably more than a little awful but hey nostalgia + proving this has been an ongoing thing since at least then, lol. I do think it still somewhat applies in that there are ways to make things work without sacrificing any of the current components (though I did forget potions at the time, but they'd be semi-easy to add) or destroying the battle experience for noobies.

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[edit] Edit 2: Since no one wants to comment after the awe of 2010's awfulness :P

The improvements made after this thread helped some, but that page is still kinda bad (and I still like my 'repeat battle' second version suggestion, especially doing the jellies recently). It still scrolls. Why, why the scrolling, when I have 1 pet, 1 weapon set, and 2 scrolls?? It's ridiculous, and kind of speaks to Subeta's tendency towards 'over padding' as a whole.

Similarly, the main battle page scrolls despite those limited numbers. Really, ideally, Battle should be no scrolling unless you have insane numbers of something forcing it. But even then none would be nice and minimal should be the goal.

Also, the new 'tabs' are nice for page load/sorting I'm sure, but they make repeatedly fighting an opponent not on the main tab (even if they're at the top of their page) a pain. If the fight this opponent again page were less awful (or repeat battle button becomes a thing) it would be less of an issue, but again, it's not improved to the point where doing it the janky way isn't better.