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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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So, I finished my hoard, and need something new to focus on.

Pacifist is t12, with 82 AP. I know that by this stage, there is really no such thing as a single set to try to build, so I'm focusing on building an armory. What weapons do you find yourself using a lot? Which weapons are really good, but really niche?

As of right now, in my BQs, I can beat General Error and below almost all of the time. I can get Flamagia, Maleria's Familiar, and Chase at least 1/3 times. I use just one single set, and I feel like I could do a lot better if I actually tried to swap things out more smartly.

Here is what I currently use:

Here is what I also have:

In addition, these are the scrolls I use: x5 x4

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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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I feel the pbb would be better suited for t11 than your plague claw. T12 opponents are all about a variety of weapons. It really depends on who you're fighting. Cronus blade will be something you work towards in mid t12, along with MW which both do come in handy. I use my tainted keeper skull staff for quite a bit, if you can find one of these for sale, I'd get it. Natasha can come in handy for chase because it generates steal fodder, it's also useful for flaminga (not his real name) and prodigy. Really, what you buy next depends on who you want to beat. I'd replace your truth serum with somas, stealing at high tiers is almost never helpful if it's even enabled. I can give you better answers when I'm not on my phone or I can answer specific questions.

Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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So, if my most immediate goal is just being able to one hundred percent do the BQs, that'd be being able to fight Prodigy and Crawbeast mostly, sometimes Critholban (maybe I spelled it right???) shows up. But I think it's primarily those three. I'm about halfway to Natasha, so there's that, and I can grab somas right now.

I actually just found out last night, I'm pretty sure Pacifist is only 150 stats away from t12, so I could get it ... right now, or I could just wait until my end of the month booster round up.

Is the pbb you mentioned the possessed bow or is there something else I'm not familiar with?

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Paintbrush blades = pbb :)

For prodigy, manifesting weapon helps out a lot, natasha can too but not near as much. Crawbeast does quite a spread... I think he can be beaten with maleria's cursed arm bangle and swashbuckle? I forget what exacty that person used. He's one I like using skull staff for but he does have a spread of icons. I think he uses dark more than others so something like maniacal essence would be good, but I donmt remember off the top of my head exactly. Volcano dude, helps if you have cronus which you will earn midway into t12. I think MW is also useful, though that's another I use skull staff for? I'd need to look at his icons again, been awhile since I've paid attention to them

Getting to t12 asap is no immediate benefit unless ypu have mw/cronus waiting for you, so don't feel obligated to boost there right now. Congrats on being close though :)

Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Well, there are three manifesting weapons in the trade center, with one priced at 350m auto. I could ... buy that right now. I've got 346m, but haven't done any quests yet, so ... I mean, and that's without trying to haggle or offer CSC. Do you think that's a reasonable price, or should I hold out for less? I know I am HECKA UPSET at myself for buying my swashbuckle at 100m when they were like 20m last week. I try not to think about it lol

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Swashes used to be 400m so don't worry :p

Well for MW, chances are you will be able to earn one during morostide which is in awhile. It may be beneficial to buy one now to use though. I'd try to haggle a bit with the sellers. 350 isn't a bad price but they've been trying to sell since the end of morostide so they may take less now, go in at 300 or 325, worst comes to worst you pay the full 350.

Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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I've got two outside opinions saying to just go for it now. Then I don't have to worry about whether or not Rouland shows up this year, and if Pacifist can beat him ten times. Although, I like to think that given eight months she probably could. And if he shows up, and if she can beat him, then I have a bonus one to try to sell, or shove in my wardrobe.

So, let's say I manage to get a MW for 300m, I can afford somas by the end of week at the latest... I'll be able to build a cronus, so don't spend my money on that ... That'll keep me busy I guess until I decide I need another new toy, or start working on scrolls more.

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Yeah that's probably the better move, you can always sell the extra.

Somas aren't immediately necessary but for tough close battles they're great, especially for meatslab when you try to take him on. blasteing two weapons and the things they get blasted into are both infinite use (using the recycle blaster also) really can be a life saver in those battles.

Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Yeah, I keep thinking about taking my recycle beast blaster out, but sometimes knocking out a weapon really helps. And I've been holding out on stealing until someone INEVITABLY steals one of my full healers.

I should probably switch out my temple shard for my rainbow vortex, right? No difference, they are both full blockers, right? But the vortex has a small chance to freeze? That could come in handy, too.

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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Stealing is disabled or useless in thr vast majority of fights. When opponents steal, I like using natasha to generate bullets that they can steal. For chase I don't even bring my healers so he won't steal them haha. Blasting is useful in long close fights, other than that I don't blast. Eh I don't use full blocks much in higher tiers. RV is a touch better with the freeze proc. If the opponent doesn't heal full blocking is fine, but full blocks against healing opponents... You're just giving them a free chance to heal :p if you have space, you can use both at the same time. If I want to have full blocks in my set, I'll even toss all 3 in there as long as I have the room

Feb 24, 2016 10 years ago
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As has mentioned, having a variety of weapons is always good. Depending on who you are fighting, you may need a dark blocker, water blocker, light blocker, etc. My main set includes the PBB + blessed trident. The blades cover a nice variety of icons and the blessing on the trident can be very helpful. Other than that I will also use and sometimes I have other weapons as well, but these I would say I rotate through the most. I also have that will be more useful to me once my pet has at least 2,500 defense

Feb 24, 2016 10 years ago
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is one of my favorites that hasn't been mentioned yet. I use it everyday for BQs :)

is one you'll want to work toward at some point - it's an achievement prize for beating Malerias Familiar x10. I find it helpful against Crawbeast.

is something you may want to pick up. I use it a lot because it has a chance to freeze.

Feb 24, 2016 10 years ago
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I do have the trio of short swords from the battle shop, so I will put them in for battles where they may come in handy. All the rest will get added to my wishlist. I've got Filantous unlocked, but I haven't fought him yet. Looking at his stats though, I don't see why I can't get him knocked out tonight to add his weapon to my armory

I've got both the bangle and the gelaspell on my wishlist already. I'm going to wait to see how my mw haggling goes, but I should be able to get those soon. I'm thinking buying them will be easier than trying to win them. I'm not super amazing at taking on Maleria's Familiar in BQs right now, so I'd probably be awful given the increased stats by battle 10. And I figure at this point, it's better not to hold my breath for another gelly invasion lol And that flail ... well, I thought it'd be more expensive that it seems to be lol so I'll be looking in to picking on them up as well. Since Sierrac's stats seem just a bit too high for me to get to battle five ...

Actually, how does he compare to Sophie? Because I got her taken down five times to get the pbb, and Sierrac is listed like ... wayy before her...

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Feb 24, 2016 10 years ago
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Shinwas ss has been a good substitute until I can make a Cronus blade. It was very useful against the forj challengers for me.

Filantous you can easily beat, especially if you have a light blocker. The comet flash is only worth it imo if you don't have a dark blocker like gelatin slayer or maniacal core and if you have at least 2500 defense (not sure what your stats are).

I saw you listed 1 se scroll and 1 cobalt scroll. I would pick up more of those if you don't already have multiple. If you could find a decent priced shriek scroll, that would be good to add. Psycho smasher is also good and you can win that from general error no problem. Do it before the reset and you could win 2 :o

Feb 24, 2016 10 years ago
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Sierrac shouldn't be too difficult, he's an Extremely Hard opponent while Sophie is an Impossible. Here is a guide :) Unstable Sample Syringe looks like it would be very helpful against him along with some Cobalt Eternals. And make sure you have a few Parched Baguette Crystals equipped.

Feb 25, 2016 10 years ago
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You've earned the Error? What error? achievement!

Done! It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be lol And I just did my first round of Forj fights, seventy of the easy guy. It was nice and mind numbingly boring right before bed lol

Pacifist Level 985 Health 4948 Strength 2424 Defense 2319 Speed 2168

So not quite there on the defense, but I don't have either of the two weapons you mentioned. Probably going to try to do a lot of battling this weekend. And I'll look in to getting a couple extra blocker scrolls too.

I'll see if I can't take down the mad scientist a few times before I take on Sierrac to try to earn that syringe.

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Feb 25, 2016 10 years ago
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Getting to 70 on the next forj shouldn't be too bad if you have enough water damage weapons. I modded my trident and shinwas ss with blessed armor and parched baguettes to prevent steal/freeze. I also brought in my prodigy staff in case one of those got stolen and ts so she has the chance to steal her own stuff instead

Feb 25, 2016 10 years ago
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Honestly the best three weapons for the forj trio are

All fully modded with water baguettes. Bring all 3 in case one is stolen.

Feb 25, 2016 10 years ago
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Was kind of let down to realise I'm a huge derp and the syringe is the fifth win prize for the mutated scientist. However was super proud of Pacifist for being able to defeat the mad scientist ten times.

Is the riptide of any actual use? I got one not too long ago from vending, but never put it in my armory. Would it be helpful against the forjs?

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Feb 25, 2016 10 years ago
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Personally, I would sell the riptide and use the money to buy scrolls or better weapons. I guess it could be used against forj, but I don't know how much wAter damage it does.

I would think an ether modded with water would be good too? Gives her lots of fodder to steal and leave your main shit alone :p

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